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May 04, 2011, 10:35:26 AM
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May 04, 2011, 10:40:39 AM
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Thus you can move it with the vars...

I don't blame on the questions, but the options are too narrow and therefore "B&W".
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May 04, 2011, 11:42:30 AM
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I'm curious about the reasons why a left libertarian would like Bitcoin. In my mind, if Bitcoin took over the world then your ideal society would be impossible to accomplish unless it is on small closed communities. Can anyone enlighten me?

PS.   no, I'm kidding, I faked this one.   Grin

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May 04, 2011, 11:53:08 AM
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I'm curious about the reasons why a left libertarian would like Bitcoin. In my mind, if Bitcoin took over the world then your ideal society would be impossible to accomplish unless it is on small closed communities. Can anyone enlighten me?

PS.   no, I'm kidding, I faked this one.   Grin

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Just because I believe in some regulation doesn't mean that I want the government to be able to control each aspect of my life (like what I do with my money).
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May 04, 2011, 11:57:55 AM
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Just because I believe in some regulation doesn't mean that I want the government to be able to control each aspect of my life (like what I do with my money).

What aspects of your life do you want the government to be in control of?
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May 04, 2011, 12:01:02 PM
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May 04, 2011, 12:21:28 PM
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I'm curious about the reasons why a left libertarian would like Bitcoin. In my mind, if Bitcoin took over the world then your ideal society would be impossible to accomplish unless it is on small closed communities. Can anyone enlighten me?

You're mistaken the "tool" (money) with what to do with it.
Makes as much sense as saying that just right wing folks would be able to use plowshares...
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May 04, 2011, 12:55:50 PM
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In my mind, if Bitcoin took over the world then your ideal society would be impossible to accomplish unless it is on small closed communities.

Why would left libertarians not be happy with that?  As long as they can do whatever they want inside their community, they are fine, aren't they?
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May 04, 2011, 01:56:47 PM
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I think this really fits my way of thinking. I love the thought of a government that is based solely on trust , that can't compel me to pay taxes but i will pay as long as it does conform to most of my principles . The moment it drifts in a way i don't like i stop paying. As for drugs i really don't like restriction laws , they do nothing good except make those that don't care about offending the law getting more money for something that could be really easy to find. Big companies are "bad" but if people weren't ignorant then this companies would easily be compelled to do better then what they are doing now, if people are ignorant then though luck they should be abused. I would also love all religious thinking to disappear.  


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May 04, 2011, 02:00:01 PM
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You're mistaken the "tool" (money) with what to do with it.
Makes as much sense as saying that just right wing folks would be able to use plowshares...

I may be totally wrong but isn't the "property is theft" idea central to left anarchists? If so then why would they even need the tool of money if everyone is obligated to share what they produce?

Why would left libertarians not be happy with that?  As long as they can do whatever they want inside their community, they are fine, aren't they?

Yeah, I guess. I have this notion though that they seriously hate capitalism and will probably be unhappy until it is destroyed. Also they would possibly have to trade in a capitalistic way with the rest of the world in order to sustain the quality of life of their communities, adding to their unhappiness as they will feel exploited once again.
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May 04, 2011, 02:26:07 PM
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JohnDoe,

It's subjective, the "analysis" doesn't state which part of the social sphere a "leftist" likes or not. Retirement, unemployment, health care, "property-theft",  as you call it, etc...
So, your statement would just make sense if you find someone in the lower-left corner (anyone who "fits in the corners" is a crackpot btw, a dangerous fanatic) or even to one of the edges (these let's call those wackjobs).
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May 04, 2011, 03:35:21 PM
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I may be totally wrong but isn't the "property is theft" idea central to left anarchists? If so then why would they even need the tool of money if everyone is obligated to share what they produce?
Some anarchists, like communist anarchists, oppose money while mutualist and individualist anarchists do not, at least, not necessarily. In fact, Proudhon, who coined the phrase, advocated the use of mutual banks to strengthen the working class and to help bring about anarchy.

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May 04, 2011, 03:36:06 PM
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.. (anyone who "fits in the corners" is a crackpot btw, a dangerous fanatic) or even to one of the edges (these let's call those wackjobs).

Are you serious?
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May 04, 2011, 04:25:30 PM
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.. (anyone who "fits in the corners" is a crackpot btw, a dangerous fanatic) or even to one of the edges (these let's call those wackjobs).

Are you serious?

If you fit in a corner (3 squares around the corner) it means all your positions are "100%" for one "pre-determinate" side, which means you probably sold your brain in eBay and the World turns black an white. "No Agree or Disagree, either Strongly Agree or Strongly Disagree".
For those "at the edges", are not quite as bad as the ones in the "corners", but also take their position to an immoderate position.
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May 04, 2011, 04:31:07 PM
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I just did the test again:




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May 04, 2011, 05:39:27 PM
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If you fit in a corner (3 squares around the corner) it means all your positions are "100%" for one "pre-determinate" side, which means you probably sold your brain in eBay and the World turns black an white. "No Agree or Disagree, either Strongly Agree or Strongly Disagree".
For those "at the edges", are not quite as bad as the ones in the "corners", but also take their position to an immoderate position.

So is it a bad thing to apply principles consistently? Or to apply them with conviction?
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May 04, 2011, 05:39:39 PM
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May 04, 2011, 05:45:42 PM
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interesting  Cheesy

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May 04, 2011, 05:49:30 PM
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 Grin Grin Grin
I was wondering how did that images got into my head, although on my mac it's to the left.

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May 04, 2011, 06:05:29 PM
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If you fit in a corner (3 squares around the corner) it means all your positions are "100%" for one "pre-determinate" side, which means you probably sold your brain in eBay and the World turns black an white. "No Agree or Disagree, either Strongly Agree or Strongly Disagree".
For those "at the edges", are not quite as bad as the ones in the "corners", but also take their position to an immoderate position.

So is it a bad thing to apply principles consistently? Or to apply them with conviction?

Well, for starters picture that as a "planisphere" representing a globe. In fact neither of the 4 corners is faraway from each other, they round about to be the same.
The bad thing isn't to have strong stands, but to have strong stands on everything that is asked, this alone indicates a person willing to stuck the nose on every subject, whether it interests him, if he has something to do with it or not at all "OR" one of those who's blindfold and follows some sort of "one size fits all" ideology, one of those intended to "deal" with all subjects from economy to social to how to get laid.
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