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He might have lost it!
How would Satoshi lose his BTC? .-. I'm VERY sure Satoshi keeps a cold storage or something of the sorts. Or he keeps the PW safe. He's probably just not touching it for now. He might have lost the private keys. I doubt that, but of the blocks he is known to control, I'd wager he has some special intention for those. When he was still here, he was offered $50 for a single bitcoin from the genesis block; when the going rate was under a nickel. He refused, stating that those were his legacy. That could be interpreted in many ways, but I thought s/he intended those early blocks to go to his heirs. |
"The powers of financial capitalism had another far-reaching aim, nothing less than to create a world system of financial control in private hands able to dominate the political system of each country and the economy of the world as a whole. This system was to be controlled in a feudalist fashion by the central banks of the world acting in concert, by secret agreements arrived at in frequent meetings and conferences. The apex of the systems was to be the Bank for International Settlements in Basel, Switzerland, a private bank owned and controlled by the world's central banks which were themselves private corporations. Each central bank...sought to dominate its government by its ability to control Treasury loans, to manipulate foreign exchanges, to influence the level of economic activity in the country, and to influence cooperative politicians by subsequent economic rewards in the business world."
- Carroll Quigley, CFR member, mentor to Bill Clinton, from 'Tragedy And Hope'
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August 14, 2014, 04:02:34 AM |
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He might have lost it!
How would Satoshi lose his BTC? .-. I'm VERY sure Satoshi keeps a cold storage or something of the sorts. Or he keeps the PW safe. He's probably just not touching it for now. He might have lost the private keys. I doubt that, but of the blocks he is known to control, I'd wager he has some special intention for those. When he was still here, he was offered $50 for a single bitcoin from the genesis block; when the going rate was under a nickel. He refused, stating that those were his legacy. That could be interpreted in many ways, but I thought s/he intended those early blocks to go to his heirs. Wow, I didnt know that. In that case, my vote still stands. He will NOT spend his BTC. |
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August 14, 2014, 04:11:34 AM |
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I personally think they are all gone.
I mean imagine, you are in your house making a new currency FFS. Just thinking that in 2008, 2009 must have been like thinking you are going to make a paper airplane out of a safety deposit box! Like, this is never gonna fly! Meanwhile you're mining thousands of BTC a week oh bunch of random hardware. Are you gonna back up your keys? I wouldn't. I mean come on.. this is just a game right? a proof of concept. It's not like it's going to be worth BILLIONS! who knows how many times Satoshi had to reinstall linux or replace his hard drive on his miners when BTC was zero dollars! You have to pay someone to take your coins. Are you gonna waste your time backing up keys?
so yea.. I say they are all gone to bittie heaven.
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August 14, 2014, 10:04:53 PM |
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He might have lost it!
How would Satoshi lose his BTC? .-. I'm VERY sure Satoshi keeps a cold storage or something of the sorts. Or he keeps the PW safe. He's probably just not touching it for now. He might have lost the private keys. I doubt that, but of the blocks he is known to control, I'd wager he has some special intention for those. When he was still here, he was offered $50 for a single bitcoin from the genesis block; when the going rate was under a nickel. He refused, stating that those were his legacy. That could be interpreted in many ways, but I thought s/he intended those early blocks to go to his heirs. I would say that the bitcoin from the genesis block would mean more to him then his other bitcoin. I doubt that he would decline an offer with that much of a premium for any of his other bitcoin (as I would doubt that anyone would be wiling to pay that much of a premium for any of his other bitcoin). Another explanation for this would be the fact that satoshi was very serious about staying anon. If he did take up this offer then he would likely need to give up his identity for only $50. |
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August 14, 2014, 10:07:58 PM |
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He might have lost it!
How would Satoshi lose his BTC? .-. I'm VERY sure Satoshi keeps a cold storage or something of the sorts. Or he keeps the PW safe. He's probably just not touching it for now. The concept of cold storage was really not around by the time that Satochi had "left." When Satochi "left" the value of bitcoin was still very low and theft was really not a problem (theft is the reason why people use cold storage). I would also find it very hand to believe that Satoshi would lose his private keys as he comes across as someone who would not make the kind of mistakes that would cause a person to lose their private keys. |
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MoonShadow
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August 18, 2014, 03:01:26 AM |
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Another explanation for this would be the fact that satoshi was very serious about staying anon. If he did take up this offer then he would likely need to give up his identity for only $50.
No, he would not have. Are you sure you understand how Bitcoin works? |
"The powers of financial capitalism had another far-reaching aim, nothing less than to create a world system of financial control in private hands able to dominate the political system of each country and the economy of the world as a whole. This system was to be controlled in a feudalist fashion by the central banks of the world acting in concert, by secret agreements arrived at in frequent meetings and conferences. The apex of the systems was to be the Bank for International Settlements in Basel, Switzerland, a private bank owned and controlled by the world's central banks which were themselves private corporations. Each central bank...sought to dominate its government by its ability to control Treasury loans, to manipulate foreign exchanges, to influence the level of economic activity in the country, and to influence cooperative politicians by subsequent economic rewards in the business world."
- Carroll Quigley, CFR member, mentor to Bill Clinton, from 'Tragedy And Hope'
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August 18, 2014, 03:05:33 AM |
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Another explanation for this would be the fact that satoshi was very serious about staying anon. If he did take up this offer then he would likely need to give up his identity for only $50.
No, he would not have. Are you sure you understand how Bitcoin works? You cannot spend or give any coins made from the genesis block.. that formed the basis for the entire blockchain ... it would be taking the H out of H20.. I wish I could remember his name, but he has ALS, I believe and is in the latter stages but was one of satoshis main programmers and he made the first bitcoin transaction. He said in one of his posts that while he has some bitcoins, they just made his computer hot and noisy, so he didnt mine that much, so, you never know what satoshi could have done with the computers/hardware like others have suggested. There have been several people claim to have lost millions worth of bitcoin had they not sold or reformatted the hd.. |
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August 18, 2014, 04:33:40 AM |
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Another explanation for this would be the fact that satoshi was very serious about staying anon. If he did take up this offer then he would likely need to give up his identity for only $50.
No, he would not have. Are you sure you understand how Bitcoin works? You cannot spend or give any coins made from the genesis block.. that formed the basis for the entire blockchain ... it would be taking the H out of H20.. I wish I could remember his name, but he has ALS, I believe and is in the latter stages but was one of satoshis main programmers and he made the first bitcoin transaction. He said in one of his posts that while he has some bitcoins, they just made his computer hot and noisy, so he didnt mine that much, so, you never know what satoshi could have done with the computers/hardware like others have suggested. There have been several people claim to have lost millions worth of bitcoin had they not sold or reformatted the hd.. His name is Hal Finney. |
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August 18, 2014, 08:33:16 PM |
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It looks like "No" is winning. It used to be "Yes". This is so cool.
This thread is the most popular one I've made.
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August 18, 2014, 08:47:19 PM |
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I have voted yes. Maybe in 2025,
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August 18, 2014, 08:50:40 PM |
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I don't think he will under that alias ever. He seems like a very reclusive guy and doesn't want much light on himself.
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August 18, 2014, 08:54:43 PM |
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He might have lost it!
How would Satoshi lose his BTC? .-. I'm VERY sure Satoshi keeps a cold storage or something of the sorts. Or he keeps the PW safe. He's probably just not touching it for now. He might have lost the private keys. That's almost impossible in my opinion, he had planned to disappear several months before and his private keys are hidden somewhere. |
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August 18, 2014, 08:58:00 PM |
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To be honest, i dont think so. He might "donate" some, but i dont hope he is greedy
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August 19, 2014, 12:45:38 AM |
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Another explanation for this would be the fact that satoshi was very serious about staying anon. If he did take up this offer then he would likely need to give up his identity for only $50.
No, he would not have. Are you sure you understand how Bitcoin works? If he were to receive the $50 then he would need to give up his identity. He could transmit the TX to the other person via TOR and keep his IP address secret from the rest of the network but if he wanted to receive the fiat from the other person then the other person would need to know where to send the money. |
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MoonShadow
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August 19, 2014, 06:57:39 AM |
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You cannot spend or give any coins made from the genesis block.. that formed the basis for the entire blockchain ... it would be taking the H out of H20..
It's still an open question concerning the genesis block coinbase. Actually, that's not quite true. The genesis block coinbase is spendable, but since the genesis block is hardcoded, there remains doubt that doing so won't break the running network; simply because a transaction that references back to the, very non-standard, genesis block would crash the verification code. This could be fixed, if it had to be, but since this effects exactly one person on the planet (who doesn't seem inclined to do it anyway) why bother fixing a bug that isn't a real issue? It's also possible that Satoshi didn't really want this coinbase to be spendable. |
"The powers of financial capitalism had another far-reaching aim, nothing less than to create a world system of financial control in private hands able to dominate the political system of each country and the economy of the world as a whole. This system was to be controlled in a feudalist fashion by the central banks of the world acting in concert, by secret agreements arrived at in frequent meetings and conferences. The apex of the systems was to be the Bank for International Settlements in Basel, Switzerland, a private bank owned and controlled by the world's central banks which were themselves private corporations. Each central bank...sought to dominate its government by its ability to control Treasury loans, to manipulate foreign exchanges, to influence the level of economic activity in the country, and to influence cooperative politicians by subsequent economic rewards in the business world."
- Carroll Quigley, CFR member, mentor to Bill Clinton, from 'Tragedy And Hope'
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August 19, 2014, 06:59:02 AM |
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Another explanation for this would be the fact that satoshi was very serious about staying anon. If he did take up this offer then he would likely need to give up his identity for only $50.
No, he would not have. Are you sure you understand how Bitcoin works? If he were to receive the $50 then he would need to give up his identity. He could transmit the TX to the other person via TOR and keep his IP address secret from the rest of the network but if he wanted to receive the fiat from the other person then the other person would need to know where to send the money. Well, that's a good point. |
"The powers of financial capitalism had another far-reaching aim, nothing less than to create a world system of financial control in private hands able to dominate the political system of each country and the economy of the world as a whole. This system was to be controlled in a feudalist fashion by the central banks of the world acting in concert, by secret agreements arrived at in frequent meetings and conferences. The apex of the systems was to be the Bank for International Settlements in Basel, Switzerland, a private bank owned and controlled by the world's central banks which were themselves private corporations. Each central bank...sought to dominate its government by its ability to control Treasury loans, to manipulate foreign exchanges, to influence the level of economic activity in the country, and to influence cooperative politicians by subsequent economic rewards in the business world."
- Carroll Quigley, CFR member, mentor to Bill Clinton, from 'Tragedy And Hope'
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August 19, 2014, 07:01:36 AM |
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August 20, 2014, 04:10:42 AM |
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Another explanation for this would be the fact that satoshi was very serious about staying anon. If he did take up this offer then he would likely need to give up his identity for only $50.
No, he would not have. Are you sure you understand how Bitcoin works? If he were to receive the $50 then he would need to give up his identity. He could transmit the TX to the other person via TOR and keep his IP address secret from the rest of the network but if he wanted to receive the fiat from the other person then the other person would need to know where to send the money. Well, that's a good point. Exactly. You can only keep your identity secret if you are dealing with a TX that is done 100% online and via a VPN/TOR. Once any part of your transaction involves anything that is not online (including sending fiat to someone, or shipping of some goods) then the other person must know your identity and this person could potentially leak your identity to the entire world. |
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August 20, 2014, 02:27:14 PM |
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So, do you think Satoshi will ever spend his bitcoins?
You can only answer with Yes or No on the poll. Got it?
This is going to be very interesting to see the results.
The reason there isn't a "maybe" is so that we can get a definite answer.
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Yes, i think he is spending some btc, but may be he do some fiction transactions. |
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August 20, 2014, 02:31:10 PM |
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I don't think satoshi will even reveal himself... |
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