Beastlymac - scammed me for 3.1 btc - gridseeds group buy

[bbxx]

3.

i dont care you have sent order or not. (it was after he asked about refund). he has not ordered items,

part taken out from private conversation (whole sentence is related to my brother`s will to reserve items not order)

so next lie destroyed

"Destroyed" interesting that you say if I quote part of a message it means it isn't valid? So that would mean that everything you have posted being quotes would be "destroyed". Your brother wanted to reserve the units? Interesting you come up with something so preposterous. Where anywhere in the sale thread did it say that users where required to pay for reserving units? No where because it wasn't required. You only had to pay if you actually ordered the miners. Are you saying that my quotes are some how invalid or "lies"? honestly? Yes "telling tales" in an attempt to discredit someone is a lie. You making claims that your brothers miners had not been ordered from the manufacturer is a lie.

yes. please include whole sentence with context.
also that conversation was private so "spamming threads with slenderous lies" is false.

also lie is that time if you post a fact you know is not true and you do it intentionally.
i cant see connection in that case.

my brother wanted to reserve units it is true. so where is my lie ?

your accusations are false then. please remove feedback.
also refund gridseeds value dated at 10.03.2014 (since you have been ignoring my brother "having" his miners due to:

Communication is not a form of scam.

deny order, payment,




ignore within few months

I would like to state that my inbox has 2500+ pm's and it is easy to miss 4 in that number.

)

that is fair solution
thanks

[Beastlymac]

3.

i dont care you have sent order or not. (it was after he asked about refund). he has not ordered items,

part taken out from private conversation (whole sentence is related to my brother`s will to reserve items not order)

so next lie destroyed

"Destroyed" interesting that you say if I quote part of a message it means it isn't valid? So that would mean that everything you have posted being quotes would be "destroyed". Your brother wanted to reserve the units? Interesting you come up with something so preposterous. Where anywhere in the sale thread did it say that users where required to pay for reserving units? No where because it wasn't required. You only had to pay if you actually ordered the miners. Are you saying that my quotes are some how invalid or "lies"? honestly? Yes "telling tales" in an attempt to discredit someone is a lie. You making claims that your brothers miners had not been ordered from the manufacturer is a lie.

yes. please include whole sentence with context.
also that conversation was private so "spamming threads with slenderous lies" is false.

also lie is that time if you post a fact you know is not true and you do it intentionally.
i cant see connection in that case.

my brother wanted to reserve units it is true. so where is my lie ?

your accusations are false then. please remove feedback.
also refund gridseeds value dated at 10.03.2014 (since you have been ignoring my brother "having" his miners due to:

Communication is not a form of scam.

deny order, payment,




ignore within few months

I would like to state that my inbox has 2500+ pm's and it is easy to miss 4 in that number.

)

that is fair solution
thanks

Your brother will receive a refund for the single chip miners and he will receive the proceeds from the auctioned off 5 chip devices. At this point I will not remove the feedback posted on your account. Although I will review all feedback left at a later date and potentially change it as I do with all feedback I leave. The quotes from above where either made publicly or sent via pm to more recipients then just you and myself meaning you stated them to outside figures such as escrow.ms and theymos by cc them into the pm. At a later date it is possible I will provide all correspondence in relation to this case (made via) publicly as that seems to be your wish although it is generally don't post private messages publicly.

[bbxx]

beastlymac within 4 months was denying any order, payment. finally he found secret list with order and put goods at auction. it is scam. pure fraud.

my "lies" have been based at beastlymac responses. i have answered to thoose false accusations. i have nothing to hide. above all is ressolved.

this is sad.

[Justin00]

From an outsider reading in.. it sounds like..

someones brother bought some mining equipment. It was paid for, but not delivered for 4 months. During that time a delivery and or refund was discussed.
Now 4 months on, the refund is off the table ??

Is that the issue pretty much ?
 

[KWH]

From an outsider reading in.. it sounds like..

someones brother bought some mining equipment. It was paid for, but not delivered for 4 months. During that time a delivery and or refund was discussed.
Now 4 months on, the refund is off the table ??

Is that the issue pretty much ?
 

You forgot the part where shipping information was never given and also the part where there is a refund to be given as well as the proceeds from the equipment auction in progress.

[Bicknellski]

From an outsider reading in.. it sounds like..

someones brother bought some mining equipment. It was paid for, but not delivered for 4 months. During that time a delivery and or refund was discussed.
Now 4 months on, the refund is off the table ??

Is that the issue pretty much ?
 

Missed the part where bbxx slanders Beastlymac. Beastlymac does everything in his power to reimburse the "brother".

At this point assholes going to be assholes even when the honest guy tries and tries to resolve the issue over and over again.

Don't do biz with these two jagoffs bbxx and his "brother" can't trust people that lie and won't even try to take a fair settlement when it is offered.

[Justin00]

The buyer never gave a shipping addy ?
That seems kinda retarded..... Or is it just me...

[curiousminer]

From an outsider reading in.. it sounds like..

someones brother bought some mining equipment. It was paid for, but not delivered for 4 months. During that time a delivery and or refund was discussed.
Now 4 months on, the refund is off the table ??

Is that the issue pretty much ?
 

for 5 months i been asking for refund. no response or ignoring from group buy organizer.
after_5_months_ he comes out with "private list" where are worthless goods for me.
for me its a pure scam.

now, after i started the scam thread and asked my bro for help, he marked us as not worthy of trust on forum and he called his buddies for stating opinions in the thread.

as you might expect, he is constantly avoiding answering simple questions concerning his "private list" idea and ignoring me for 5 months.

[KWH]

The buyer never gave a shipping addy ?
That seems kinda retarded..... Or is it just me...

3-4BTC order, I would be checking the order details and shipping progress daily for fear of a mistake on my part. I would want the order ASAP so I could maximize any profits. Doesn't seem to be the case here. Only a full refund is being sought once the equipment is now of low value. The original buyer can't be bothered with it so it falls to the brother to pursue. *shrugs*

[KWH]

From an outsider reading in.. it sounds like..

someones brother bought some mining equipment. It was paid for, but not delivered for 4 months. During that time a delivery and or refund was discussed.
Now 4 months on, the refund is off the table ??

Is that the issue pretty much ?
 

for 5 months i been asking for refund. no response or ignoring from group buy organizer.
after_5_months_ he comes out with "private list" where are worthless goods for me.
for me its a pure scam.

now, after i started the scam thread and asked my bro for help, he marked us as not worthy of trust on forum and he called his buddies for stating opinions in the thread.

as you might expect, he is constantly avoiding answering simple questions concerning his "private list" idea and ignoring me for 5 months.

Give the shipping info, take delivery of your order and get the offered refund. Case closed.
Questions have been answered many times but they are not the answers you want so you "both" persist. You also were negligent during this time.

[bbxx]

4 months denying payment/order having miners in hand is not scam ?

[KWH]

From an outsider reading in.. it sounds like..

someones brother bought some mining equipment. It was paid for, but not delivered for 4 months. During that time a delivery and or refund was discussed.
Now 4 months on, the refund is off the table ??

Is that the issue pretty much ?
 

for 5 months i been asking for refund. no response or ignoring from group buy organizer.
after_5_months_ he comes out with "private list" where are worthless goods for me.
for me its a pure scam.

now, after i started the scam thread and asked my bro for help, he marked us as not worthy of trust on forum and he called his buddies for stating opinions in the thread.

as you might expect, he is constantly avoiding answering simple questions concerning his "private list" idea and ignoring me for 5 months.

Give the shipping info, take delivery of your order and get the offered refund. Case closed.
Questions have been answered many times but they are not the answers you want so you "both" persist. You also were negligent during this time.

[bbxx]

4 months denying payment/order having miners in hand is not scam ?

Communication is not a form of scam.

deny order, payment,




ignore within few months

I would like to state that my inbox has 2500+ pm's and it is easy to miss 4 in that number.

is that scam or not ?
please answer.

[KWH]

Again:

From an outsider reading in.. it sounds like..

someones brother bought some mining equipment. It was paid for, but not delivered for 4 months. During that time a delivery and or refund was discussed.
Now 4 months on, the refund is off the table ??

Is that the issue pretty much ?
 

for 5 months i been asking for refund. no response or ignoring from group buy organizer.
after_5_months_ he comes out with "private list" where are worthless goods for me.
for me its a pure scam.

now, after i started the scam thread and asked my bro for help, he marked us as not worthy of trust on forum and he called his buddies for stating opinions in the thread.



as you might expect, he is constantly avoiding answering simple questions concerning his "private list" idea and ignoring me for 5 months.

Give the shipping info, take delivery of your order and get the offered refund. Case closed.
Questions have been answered many times but they are not the answers you want so you "both" persist. You also were negligent during this time.

[curiousminer]

Give the shipping info, take delivery of your order and get the offered refund. Case closed.
Questions have been answered many times but they are not the answers you want so you "both" persist. You also were negligent during this time.

if beastymac would tell me, there are goods waiting for me, i would give him shipping info. BUT numerous times he told me im not on order list. so i been asking for refund.

for me coming out with "private list" after 5 months of ignoring consumer, what renders goods worthless is not fare.
what do you thing about coming out with "private list" idea after 5 months ? is it ok ?

@Bicknellski
what lies pls cool your head and read the thread one more time.

[bbxx]

beastlymac has made error. he was ignoring my brother and stating that he had not order anything

Communication is not a form of scam.

deny order, payment,




ignore within few months

I would like to state that my inbox has 2500+ pm's and it is easy to miss 4 in that number.

that is a fact

he should pay for his errors.

[KWH]

Give the shipping info, take delivery of your order and get the offered refund. Case closed.
Questions have been answered many times but they are not the answers you want so you "both" persist. You also were negligent during this time.

if beastymac would tell me, there are goods waiting for me, i would give him shipping info. BUT numerous times he told me im not on order list. so i been asking for refund.

for me coming out with "private list" after 5 months of ignoring consumer, what renders goods worthless is not fare.
what do you thing about coming out with "private list" idea after 5 months ? is it ok ?

@Bicknellski
what lies pls cool your head and read the thread one more time.

You really don't read do you?

[KWH]

Give the shipping info, take delivery of your order and get the offered refund. Case closed.
Questions have been answered many times but they are not the answers you want so you "both" persist. You also were negligent during this time.

if beastymac would tell me, there are goods waiting for me, i would give him shipping info. BUT numerous times he told me im not on order list. so i been asking for refund.

for me coming out with "private list" after 5 months of ignoring consumer, what renders goods worthless is not fare.
what do you thing about coming out with "private list" idea after 5 months ? is it ok ?

@Bicknellski
what lies pls cool your head and read the thread one more time.

He has even posted pics of your order. Live up to your word and provide shipping information and close this issue.

[curiousminer]

You really don't read do you?

yes indeed im not following the thread constantly because im currently in travel, right now its first time since 10 days when im on internet.
no, i did not read whole thread but from what i see situation is not chaining, we dont get to any conclusion. i dont agree for goods right now, its a pure scam for me. and yes, i know the rules of group buy.

[Justin00]

So again as an outsiders view... it sounds like the items are available now for delivery.

OP claim he was ignored for 5 months.... Is that true ?
If it is, I probably also would not want delivery of 5 month late device.

Regardless, it sounds like efforts are being made to do something....

Also I'm not taking sides or accusing anyone, I am just trying to understand what is going on