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August 16, 2014, 02:57:03 PM
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Let's hope this experimental drug continues to be tested and is allowed to become a real force for saving lives.
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August 16, 2014, 02:57:12 PM
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This is great news for them but not for people in Africa, also infected.
It's not fair that infected people in America can get the experimental drug (ZMapp) but infected people in Africa can't, like that they are second class people.
I really hope in the future all infected people will receive the same treatment and have the same chance to survive.

Well.. ZMapp is being produced by Mapp Biopharmaceutical Inc, a pharma company which is based in the United States. So they couldn't refuse it when the American government ordered them to treat the infected Americans (Dr. Kent Brantly and Nancy Writebol) first. But you should also remember that they have sent 3 batches of the drug to Liberia, at their own cost.
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August 16, 2014, 04:08:31 PM
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Who isn't?
There have been a couple of suspected cases in my geography. Fingers crossed.

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August 17, 2014, 05:05:17 AM
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ZMapp has now arrived in Liberia:

"Three Liberian health care workers who have contracted Ebola received an extremely scarce experimental serum on Friday at a hospital outside the national capital, Monrovia, a Liberian health official said Saturday."

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/17/world/africa/three-liberian-health-workers-get-experimental-ebola-drug.html
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August 17, 2014, 01:55:05 PM
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Armed men attack Liberia Ebola clinic, freeing patientients.

"Armed men attacked an Ebola clinic in Monrovia, local witnesses told Agence France Presse. As many as 29 potentially Ebola-infected patients fled".

"The attack comes just one day after a report of a crowd of several hundred local residents, chanting, 'No Ebola in West Point,' drove away a burial team and their police escort that had come to collect the bodies of suspected Ebola victims in a slum in the capital, Reuters reports. The mob then forced open an Ebola isolation ward and took several patients out, many saying that the Ebola epidemic is a hoax."

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/report-armed-men-attack-liberia-ebola-clinic-freeing-patients/

So no wonder it is spreading...

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August 17, 2014, 02:37:54 PM
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ZMapp has now arrived in Liberia:

"Three Liberian health care workers who have contracted Ebola received an extremely scarce experimental serum on Friday at a hospital outside the national capital, Monrovia, a Liberian health official said Saturday."

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/17/world/africa/three-liberian-health-workers-get-experimental-ebola-drug.html

Very bad news.
It seems that there is no real success in stopping Ebola in Africa.
If nothing change soon, Ebola may spread to other continents as well.
We must stop Ebola right now, at this early stage or I'm afraid to think what can happen otherwise, in the worst scenario.

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August 17, 2014, 02:45:11 PM
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Hmm, i hope the americans just get the medicin right in time.

The news is that both the infected Americans are showing great improvement (Nancy Writebol and Kent Brantly). They were being treated with the experimental drug (ZMapp). Dr. Kent Brantly might be discharged from hospital within two or three days. 

This is great news for them but not for people in Africa, also infected.
It's not fair that infected people in America can get the experimental drug (ZMapp) but infected people in Africa can't, like that they are second class people.
I really hope in the future all infected people will receive the same treatment and have the same chance to survive.

If you have only limited supply of a drug , who are you going to treat first?
An unknown person in a far away country or your family ?

Why don't you start donate for this cause and help them produce more rather that blaming others?


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August 17, 2014, 02:49:09 PM
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Armed men attack Liberia Ebola clinic, freeing patientients.

"Armed men attacked an Ebola clinic in Monrovia, local witnesses told Agence France Presse. As many as 29 potentially Ebola-infected patients fled".

"The attack comes just one day after a report of a crowd of several hundred local residents, chanting, 'No Ebola in West Point,' drove away a burial team and their police escort that had come to collect the bodies of suspected Ebola victims in a slum in the capital, Reuters reports. The mob then forced open an Ebola isolation ward and took several patients out, many saying that the Ebola epidemic is a hoax."

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/report-armed-men-attack-liberia-ebola-clinic-freeing-patients/

So no wonder it is spreading...



Let natural selection do it's job.
Idiots first.

The next time when they come crying and demanding medicine they should be shot dead on the spot.


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August 17, 2014, 04:25:43 PM
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Let natural selection do it's job.
Idiots first.

The next time when they come crying and demanding medicine they should be shot dead on the spot.

Not that simple. They were stupid to steal the infected mattresses and other equipment. But remember that the looters are residing in a densely populated slum, with a population of 40,000. If Ebola gets in to these crowded slums, then hell will break loose. So far, the infection is mostly limited to the remote forest villages. If it ever gets in to the urban centers, then nothing could stop it.

BTW... it was really a stupid move from the part of the Liberian government, to set up the treatment center inside a slum.
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Armed men attack Liberia Ebola clinic, freeing patientients.

"Armed men attacked an Ebola clinic in Monrovia, local witnesses told Agence France Presse. As many as 29 potentially Ebola-infected patients fled".

"The attack comes just one day after a report of a crowd of several hundred local residents, chanting, 'No Ebola in West Point,' drove away a burial team and their police escort that had come to collect the bodies of suspected Ebola victims in a slum in the capital, Reuters reports. The mob then forced open an Ebola isolation ward and took several patients out, many saying that the Ebola epidemic is a hoax."

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/report-armed-men-attack-liberia-ebola-clinic-freeing-patients/

So no wonder it is spreading...



Let natural selection do it's job.
Idiots first.

The next time when they come crying and demanding medicine they should be shot dead on the spot.

There realy is something interesting behind what u stated.

When you look at all the recent floods, diseases and unexplained plane crashes it realy does seam like higher power is fighting back.
Dont know why they dont start with top 1% richest population tho, since they are the biggest disease in the world .
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Armed men attack Liberia Ebola clinic, freeing patientients.

"Armed men attacked an Ebola clinic in Monrovia, local witnesses told Agence France Presse. As many as 29 potentially Ebola-infected patients fled".

"The attack comes just one day after a report of a crowd of several hundred local residents, chanting, 'No Ebola in West Point,' drove away a burial team and their police escort that had come to collect the bodies of suspected Ebola victims in a slum in the capital, Reuters reports. The mob then forced open an Ebola isolation ward and took several patients out, many saying that the Ebola epidemic is a hoax."

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/report-armed-men-attack-liberia-ebola-clinic-freeing-patients/

So no wonder it is spreading...



Let natural selection do it's job.
Idiots first.

The next time when they come crying and demanding medicine they should be shot dead on the spot.

There realy is something interesting behind what u stated.

When you look at all the recent floods, diseases and unexplained plane crashes it realy does seam like higher power is fighting back.
Dont know why they dont start with top 1% richest population tho, since they are the biggest disease in the world .

When your stash of bitcoins will make you one of the wealthy ones , are you going to say the same?
What are you going to respond to the people who will at that time post the same thing about you being a cancer?


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August 17, 2014, 05:54:08 PM
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Armed men attack Liberia Ebola clinic, freeing patientients.

"Armed men attacked an Ebola clinic in Monrovia, local witnesses told Agence France Presse. As many as 29 potentially Ebola-infected patients fled".

"The attack comes just one day after a report of a crowd of several hundred local residents, chanting, 'No Ebola in West Point,' drove away a burial team and their police escort that had come to collect the bodies of suspected Ebola victims in a slum in the capital, Reuters reports. The mob then forced open an Ebola isolation ward and took several patients out, many saying that the Ebola epidemic is a hoax."

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/report-armed-men-attack-liberia-ebola-clinic-freeing-patients/

So no wonder it is spreading...



Let natural selection do it's job.
Idiots first.

The next time when they come crying and demanding medicine they should be shot dead on the spot.
I don't think someone that is asking for medical help is an idiot. I would say the opposite actually. Someone who asks for medical help instead of hoping they will get better is intelligent and educated. For the most part it is not their fault that they contracted ebola and if it was their fault it was because they were using their skills to try to prevent it from spreading (meaning they are doctors who are helping with the quarantine efforts).

 
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Armed men attack Liberia Ebola clinic, freeing patientients.

"Armed men attacked an Ebola clinic in Monrovia, local witnesses told Agence France Presse. As many as 29 potentially Ebola-infected patients fled".

"The attack comes just one day after a report of a crowd of several hundred local residents, chanting, 'No Ebola in West Point,' drove away a burial team and their police escort that had come to collect the bodies of suspected Ebola victims in a slum in the capital, Reuters reports. The mob then forced open an Ebola isolation ward and took several patients out, many saying that the Ebola epidemic is a hoax."

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/report-armed-men-attack-liberia-ebola-clinic-freeing-patients/

So no wonder it is spreading...



Let natural selection do it's job.
Idiots first.

The next time when they come crying and demanding medicine they should be shot dead on the spot.
I don't think someone that is asking for medical help is an idiot. I would say the opposite actually. Someone who asks for medical help instead of hoping they will get better is intelligent and educated. For the most part it is not their fault that they contracted ebola and if it was their fault it was because they were using their skills to try to prevent it from spreading (meaning they are doctors who are helping with the quarantine efforts).

I was talking about the ones that stormed the hospital.
At least a few of them will come back begging to be saved.

Also there are a few reports that some of the patients run away and never came back. Those are also intelligent and educated?


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The spread amongst uneducated people is very sad. But for the most part I think it will self-contain, being as deadly as it is. Even in a densely populated area.




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August 17, 2014, 09:15:34 PM
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It looks like some westerners are starting to panic, so here are some soothing words: if Ebola ever did reach a western country, it wouldn't actually be that hard to contain. Modern medical systems know how to handle Ebola pretty well, despite the fact that there is no proven cure or vaccine. Helping those who have contracted the disease is very difficult, but containing it before all hell breaks loose is entirely feasible.
The reason that containment is failing miserably in Africa is because the public health systems in countries like Liberia and Sierra Leone are, well, miserable. If you're in Africa, you should be worried. Otherwise, please go back to your first world problems...

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August 17, 2014, 09:43:01 PM
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God forbid the virus mutates to become airborne.

Captain Trips and The Stand anyone?

It already is confirmed to be airborne. A study was conducted with a pig and an ape separated in 2 different cages in the same room.
The transmission of ebola was observed and confirmed to be air transmissible. But don't confuse that with you catching the virus from
someone sneezing a mile away and you getting 1 spec of virus and becoming sick. The important issue is the viral load you are exposed to.
It is possible in most healthy people that they won't manifest the symptoms or become ill with a very tiny viral load. The immune system
can usually take care of this. But don't let this slight downplaying of the issue deter you from taking protective measures for yourself.

If I were you, I'd look into refining your diet and eliminating foods that can suppress your immune system. And never ever use a microwave
for anything. Not even water. It only takes a 6th grader and a good microscope to visually inspect the nutrients and molecules composing
food after microwaving to see a physical deterioration in the quality. When your body is exposed to this destroyed matter, the immune
system has to do extra work to eliminate the foreign debris. This greatly strains your body and can contribute to bad health over time
if done for too long. Our cells require highly precise molecular structures comprising the various nutrients we ingest in order to function
properly. If you destroy these fragile molecular structures by overstimulating them with hundreds of watts of RF energy and assume you
are being nourished, then you are sadly mistaken. You are literally better off eating from a dumpster than from a microwave oven. Except
for the obvious like the food being contaminated with something nasty of course...


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August 17, 2014, 10:07:59 PM
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Liberian government isn't looking too strong or credible. Declaring a community-wide quarantine could bring an armed response if citizens are so distrustful, they wonder if it's intentional genocide.
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August 17, 2014, 10:08:32 PM
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God forbid the virus mutates to become airborne.

Captain Trips and The Stand anyone?

It already is confirmed to be airborne. A study was conducted with a pig and an ape separated in 2 different cages in the same room.
The transmission of ebola was observed and confirmed to be air transmissible. But don't confuse that with you catching the virus from
someone sneezing a mile away and you getting 1 spec of virus and becoming sick. The important issue is the viral load you are exposed to.
It is possible in most healthy people that they won't manifest the symptoms or become ill with a very tiny viral load. The immune system
can usually take care of this. But don't let this slight downplaying of the issue deter you from taking protective measures for yourself.

If I were you, I'd look into refining your diet and eliminating foods that can suppress your immune system. And never ever use a microwave
for anything. Not even water. It only takes a 6th grader and a good microscope to visually inspect the nutrients and molecules composing
food after microwaving to see a physical deterioration in the quality. When your body is exposed to this destroyed matter, the immune
system has to do extra work to eliminate the foreign debris. This greatly strains your body and can contribute to bad health over time
if done for too long. Our cells require highly precise molecular structures comprising the various nutrients we ingest in order to function
properly. If you destroy these fragile molecular structures by overstimulating them with hundreds of watts of RF energy and assume you
are being nourished, then you are sadly mistaken. You are literally better off eating from a dumpster than from a microwave oven. Except
for the obvious like the food being contaminated with something nasty of course...


Wow. What a bunch of BS. I would understand when were using arguments esoterik gurus told you. But using arguments from physics and chemistry sciences, thats a threat in logic itself. Always asking myself, why spiritual theories has to be proven my sciences. That doesnt match. I think you heading for the nobelprice, if you can really proof, what you written down. Go for it boy!
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August 17, 2014, 11:38:06 PM
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Yeah, what's going on with Ebola is pretty insane. I'm just glad to live in a part of the world that has good healthcare and Ebola hasn't spread to yet.

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August 17, 2014, 11:41:00 PM
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Yeah, what's going on with Ebola is pretty insane. I'm just glad to live in a part of the world that has good healthcare and Ebola hasn't spread to yet.
Good healthcare has nothing to do with ebola spreading. It has to do with the fact that is is highly contagious and and there is no cure
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