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October 08, 2014, 10:46:04 AM
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This could wipe out a lot of earths population if it isn't contained.

This is how a spanish hospital is isolating an ebola-infected nurse



http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-10-07/tuesday-humor-spains-ebola-containment-protocols

Obviously not that serious then. I'm thinking I'll be fine as long as I'm not taking vaccines.
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October 08, 2014, 01:28:46 PM
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The situation goes worse and worse in Sierra Leone: "Burial teams in Sierra Leone reportedly went on strike over lack of hazard pay this week, leaving the bodies of victims of the Ebola outbreak in the country's streets."

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2014/10/08/sierra-leone-burial-crews-reportedly-on-strike-leaving-ebola-victims-in-street/

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October 08, 2014, 02:12:28 PM
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This could wipe out a lot of earths population if it isn't contained. WHO has said we have about a month or its game over.
Sure would ease up that global warming though.
Too many people.
Nature culls the heard

Millions of people will die, a huge swath cut through the nations of the world, a giant percentage of humanity laid to waste.
Yet, the real question still remains...
How will this affect the value of my bitcoins?

About 150K people die every day on an average day.
To get to giant percentage of humanity laid to waste, this would need to spread to 10's of millions.

When/If it becomes weaponized, this may occur.  Be on the lookout, especially as it becomes increasingly easy to obtain.
It would be nice is most of us here (BCT) make it through this to the aftermath.  Be aware, be prepared.  Stay healthy.
Try not to spend too much time in hospitals if you can avoid it.

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October 08, 2014, 04:50:03 PM
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With an already severely compromised immune system, and the huge variation of blood borne diseases, there is nothing much helpful from doing this in this way.
The existence of any antibodies in the bought blood are not going to be helpful in the creation of the infected person's own antibodies.
It is more sympathetic magic than anything curative.

As a vaccine, that is a different matter, but you are giving yourself a disease (or several) that is likely just much better avoided.

There is one paper which shows that in some cases the blood transfusions may actually help to survive:

http://jid.oxfordjournals.org/content/179/Supplement_1/S18.long

However, the method was tested only with 8 patients: "because of the small number of patients studied and the lack of control subjects, we cannot conclude that the neutralizing antibodies in transfused convalescent blood improves the outcome for EHF patients."
I would speculate that this would very well be the result of "good luck" on the part of the people who received the blood transfusions. It is said that ~50% of people that are infected with ebola will survive the disease. With such a small sample of people it would not be unrealistic to say that all of these 8 people would be part of the "lucky" 50% that survive.

I'm guessing that this study was not done with blood bought off the street.
Buying and transfusing blood from the "black market" (without even a SR-like rating system)?
That is desperation.

They are now testing blood transfusion with an NBC cameraman: "Ebola survivor Kent Brantly has donated blood to a fellow patient for the second time. This time, Brantly, a physician, donated blood to an NBC cameraman who also contracted the virus while working in Liberia.

Although there's no proven therapy or vaccine for Ebola, doctors hope that blood transfusions from survivors will provide current patients with antibodies that will help their immune systems fight off the virus."

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/10/08/camerman-ebola-transfusion/16906983/
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October 08, 2014, 05:14:18 PM
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This could wipe out a lot of earths population if it isn't contained. WHO has said we have about a month or its game over.
Sure would ease up that global warming though.
Too many people.
Nature culls the heard

Millions of people will die, a huge swath cut through the nations of the world, a giant percentage of humanity laid to waste.
Yet, the real question still remains...
How will this affect the value of my bitcoins?
This reason why we have ~1 month is because of flu season. There will be a lot of people with ebola like symptoms that only have the flu. There will also be people that have ebola that doctors will assume only has the flu and will be allowed to remain in the "general population" this will result in a lot more people getting infected then if we were not in flu season
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October 08, 2014, 07:49:32 PM
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Although there's no proven therapy or vaccine for Ebola, doctors hope that blood transfusions from survivors will provide current patients with antibodies that will help their immune systems fight off the virus."

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/10/08/camerman-ebola-transfusion/16906983/

That's quite risky because blood of survivor could be the source of infection. There was an old study on this subject... According to results of PCR, the significant part of survivors have stable titres of viral RNA in their blood and there is no idea how to get rid of infection in such case. So their blood could be used to help patients with ebola disease, but not for protection or emergency treatment... Roll Eyes By the way, survivors have got a recommendation to use condoms to prevent risks of infection of their partners.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/10/07/us-health-ebola-condoms-idUSKCN0HW1P820141007
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October 09, 2014, 04:39:42 AM
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This could wipe out a lot of earths population if it isn't contained. WHO has said we have about a month or its game over.

Nope. The mortality rate from Ebola is around 70%. Those who survive the disease, gains immunity from it for more than 10 years (by which time the virus mutates). So it is not going to wipe out humanity.
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October 09, 2014, 05:25:05 AM
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Top 20 cities by population:

1.  Tokyo, Japan (37,126,000)
2.   Jakarta, Indonesia (26,063,000)
3.   Seoul, South Korea (22,547,000)
4.   Delhi, India (22,242,000)
5.   Shanghai, China (20,860,000)
6.   Manila, Philippines (20,767,000)
7.   Karachi, Pakistan (20,711,000)
8.   New York, USA (20,464,000)
9.   Sao Paulo, Brazil (20,186,000)
10.   Mexico City, Mexico (19,463,000)
11.   Cairo, Egypt (17,816,000)
12.   Beijing, China (17,311,000)
13.   Osaka, Japan (17,011,000)
14.   Mumbai (Bombay), India (16,910,000)
15.   Guangzhou, China (16,827,000)
16.   Moscow, Russia (15,512,000)
17.   Los Angeles, USA (14,900,000)
18.   Calcutta, India (14,374,000)
19.   Dhaka, Bangladesh (14,000,000)
20.   Buenos Aires, Argentina (13,639,000)
Nothing detected from 7 suspected in Los Angeles.
http://www.dailynews.com/health/20141008/lax-passenger-suspected-of-having-ebola-is-cleared

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October 09, 2014, 05:25:49 AM
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BREAKING: Texas Ebola Patient Thomas Eric Duncan Has Died, Becoming First U.S. Casualty Of Virus
http://libertyalliance.com/2014/10/breaking-texas-ebola-patient-thomas-eric-duncan-died-becoming-first-u-s-casualty-virus/

Ebola patient's death renews questions about care
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_EBOLA_AMERICAN_PATIENTS?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2014-10-08-11-21-36

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October 09, 2014, 06:03:16 AM
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This could wipe out a lot of earths population if it isn't contained. WHO has said we have about a month or its game over.

Nope. The mortality rate from Ebola is around 70%. Those who survive the disease, gains immunity from it for more than 10 years (by which time the virus mutates). So it is not going to wipe out humanity.
70% mortality rate would have huge negative impacts on the world. If that much of the world population were to die then we would likely experience skills and production mismatch which could potentially lead to the inability to produce enough food and other necessities
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October 09, 2014, 07:01:37 AM
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Here we go. Is this up in infowars already?
I wonder if something can happen these days, just happen without people coming up with alternative theories.

Is this what you were thinking about?


CDC Suggests "Hermetically Sealed Caskets" For Ebola Victims - AKA "Fema Coffins"


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October 09, 2014, 12:14:06 PM
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This could wipe out a lot of earths population if it isn't contained. WHO has said we have about a month or its game over.

Nope. The mortality rate from Ebola is around 70%. Those who survive the disease, gains immunity from it for more than 10 years (by which time the virus mutates). So it is not going to wipe out humanity.
70% mortality rate would have huge negative impacts on the world. If that much of the world population were to die then we would likely experience skills and production mismatch which could potentially lead to the inability to produce enough food and other necessities

The phone polishers that can learn to harvest get to survive.
The main skill shortage will be medical.  
Medical service people have a 10x mortality risk in this so far.
Some others just walk out.

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October 10, 2014, 05:35:25 AM
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Medical service people have a 10x mortality risk in this so far.
Some others just walk out.

The health care professionals are having high morality in countries like Liberia and Sierra Leone, as there is a shortage of protection equipment. If proper protection is taken, then the chances of Ebola spreading to them is minimal.
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October 10, 2014, 06:13:00 AM
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This could wipe out a lot of earths population if it isn't contained.

This is how a spanish hospital is isolating an ebola-infected nurse



http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-10-07/tuesday-humor-spains-ebola-containment-protocols

Obviously not that serious then. I'm thinking I'll be fine as long as I'm not taking vaccines.

The point is that Ebola isn't an airborne virus but transferred through bodily fluid so unless the patient pukes across the hallway, there isn't much risk of infection.
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October 10, 2014, 06:20:56 AM
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The point is that Ebola isn't an airborne virus but transferred through bodily fluid so unless the patient pukes across the hallway, there isn't much risk of infection.

Not as simple as that. If the patient (in the advanced stages) sneezes and someone else is standing in the vicinity, then there is a strong chance that the other person might get infected.
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October 10, 2014, 07:06:32 AM
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So far, all the 48 people with whom they had contact Duncan while he was contagious
appear to be virus free.
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October 10, 2014, 02:18:02 PM
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Interesting map following the spread of this disease: http://healthmap.org/ebola/#timeline
Projections section reports a pretty high number for the end of the month.
The last cases of these last 2 days are still not reported here btw.
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October 10, 2014, 07:08:05 PM
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"Public Health Emergency Declared In Connecticut Over Ebola: Civil Rights Suspended Indefinitely"

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-10-10/public-health-emergency-declared-connecticut-over-ebola-civil-rights-suspended-indef






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October 10, 2014, 08:52:00 PM
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"Public Health Emergency Declared In Connecticut Over Ebola: Civil Rights Suspended Indefinitely"

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-10-10/public-health-emergency-declared-connecticut-over-ebola-civil-rights-suspended-indef
LOL, actually something like an Ebola breakout is exactly what demands these measures.

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October 10, 2014, 09:32:28 PM
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"Public Health Emergency Declared In Connecticut Over Ebola: Civil Rights Suspended Indefinitely"

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-10-10/public-health-emergency-declared-connecticut-over-ebola-civil-rights-suspended-indef
LOL, actually something like an Ebola breakout is exactly what demands these measures.
And... these sorts of measures are exactly what will attract ebola from those who would use it as a biological weapon.

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