Bitcoin Forum
May 05, 2024, 07:06:34 PM *
News: Latest Bitcoin Core release: 27.0 [Torrent]
 
   Home   Help Search Login Register More  
Pages: « 1 2 3 4 [5]  All
  Print  
Author Topic: Is Argentina the cyprus of 2014?  (Read 5607 times)
fran2k
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Activity: 784
Merit: 500


View Profile WWW
August 12, 2014, 05:02:21 AM
 #81

Argentina could print pesos to buy dollars to pay back their debts. As they sell more pesos, the value of each peso would decrease so the more they print the less dollars they can buy on a per peso basis.

No country has managed to mint its way out of a crisis.

May be they shoud try with cryptocurrencies. Cheesy

1714935994
Hero Member
*
Offline Offline

Posts: 1714935994

View Profile Personal Message (Offline)

Ignore
1714935994
Reply with quote  #2

1714935994
Report to moderator
1714935994
Hero Member
*
Offline Offline

Posts: 1714935994

View Profile Personal Message (Offline)

Ignore
1714935994
Reply with quote  #2

1714935994
Report to moderator
1714935994
Hero Member
*
Offline Offline

Posts: 1714935994

View Profile Personal Message (Offline)

Ignore
1714935994
Reply with quote  #2

1714935994
Report to moderator
Activity + Trust + Earned Merit == The Most Recognized Users on Bitcointalk
Advertised sites are not endorsed by the Bitcoin Forum. They may be unsafe, untrustworthy, or illegal in your jurisdiction.
1714935994
Hero Member
*
Offline Offline

Posts: 1714935994

View Profile Personal Message (Offline)

Ignore
1714935994
Reply with quote  #2

1714935994
Report to moderator
1714935994
Hero Member
*
Offline Offline

Posts: 1714935994

View Profile Personal Message (Offline)

Ignore
1714935994
Reply with quote  #2

1714935994
Report to moderator
1714935994
Hero Member
*
Offline Offline

Posts: 1714935994

View Profile Personal Message (Offline)

Ignore
1714935994
Reply with quote  #2

1714935994
Report to moderator
Bogleg
Full Member
***
Offline Offline

Activity: 185
Merit: 100


View Profile
August 12, 2014, 07:00:20 AM
 #82

Argentina could print pesos to buy dollars to pay back their debts. As they sell more pesos, the value of each peso would decrease so the more they print the less dollars they can buy on a per peso basis.

No country has managed to mint its way out of a crisis.

May be they shoud try with cryptocurrencies. Cheesy

Good one. Just need to mint something to convince other it is better than bitcoin.

Instant profit.


nicojuritz
Member
**
Offline Offline

Activity: 98
Merit: 10


View Profile
August 12, 2014, 10:52:23 AM
 #83

Every country has its way of managing its own crisis in all aspect so i don't think thats possible.
Mobius
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Activity: 988
Merit: 1000



View Profile
August 13, 2014, 05:29:21 AM
 #84

Argentina could print pesos to buy dollars to pay back their debts. As they sell more pesos, the value of each peso would decrease so the more they print the less dollars they can buy on a per peso basis.

No country has managed to mint its way out of a crisis.

May be they shoud try with cryptocurrencies. Cheesy


I don't think this would be possible. You cannot "mint" cryptos out of thing air. You must first make an investment (buy an ASIC(s)). If you are referring to them creating some kind of altcoin with coins premined then this would also make no sense as it would be unlikely that there would be any kind of demand for this (there is little demand for most alts).
botany
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 1582
Merit: 1064


View Profile
August 13, 2014, 04:51:26 PM
 #85

Argentina could print pesos to buy dollars to pay back their debts. As they sell more pesos, the value of each peso would decrease so the more they print the less dollars they can buy on a per peso basis.

No country has managed to mint its way out of a crisis.

May be they shoud try with cryptocurrencies. Cheesy


I don't think this would be possible. You cannot "mint" cryptos out of thing air. You must first make an investment (buy an ASIC(s)). If you are referring to them creating some kind of altcoin with coins premined then this would also make no sense as it would be unlikely that there would be any kind of demand for this (there is little demand for most alts).

Even if they do come out with altcoins, its credibility would be linked to the Argentinian government. You would probably see hyperinflation in these altcoins too. Wink
cuddaloreappu (OP)
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Activity: 756
Merit: 502


View Profile
August 14, 2014, 10:28:09 AM
 #86

8,000 Convenience Stores in Argentina Now Sell Bitcoin

http://www.coindesk.com/bitpagos-brings-bitcoin-8000-convenience-stores-ripio/
fran2k
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Activity: 784
Merit: 500


View Profile WWW
August 15, 2014, 02:57:28 AM
 #87

Argentina could print pesos to buy dollars to pay back their debts. As they sell more pesos, the value of each peso would decrease so the more they print the less dollars they can buy on a per peso basis.

No country has managed to mint its way out of a crisis.

May be they shoud try with cryptocurrencies. Cheesy


I don't think this would be possible. You cannot "mint" cryptos out of thing air. You must first make an investment (buy an ASIC(s)). If you are referring to them creating some kind of altcoin with coins premined then this would also make no sense as it would be unlikely that there would be any kind of demand for this (there is little demand for most alts).

First, all FIAT money is full premine. Second, this alt could be backed by the stated, and that can make it quite popular.
zedicus
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 966
Merit: 1004

CryptoTalk.Org - Get Paid for every Post!


View Profile WWW
August 15, 2014, 03:12:50 AM
 #88

Argentina could print pesos to buy dollars to pay back their debts. As they sell more pesos, the value of each peso would decrease so the more they print the less dollars they can buy on a per peso basis.

No country has managed to mint its way out of a crisis.

May be they shoud try with cryptocurrencies. Cheesy


I don't think this would be possible. You cannot "mint" cryptos out of thing air. You must first make an investment (buy an ASIC(s)). If you are referring to them creating some kind of altcoin with coins premined then this would also make no sense as it would be unlikely that there would be any kind of demand for this (there is little demand for most alts).
I think most altcoins see "hyperinflation" in their value, that is see their value tumble as people realize that the alt has no value that bitcoin cannot provide.

Even if they do come out with altcoins, its credibility would be linked to the Argentinian government. You would probably see hyperinflation in these altcoins too. Wink
I think that most altcoins experience hyperinflation as more people realize that they cannot offer any thing of value so people sell the coins. This results in the price of the altcoin more or less crashing.

 
                                . ██████████.
                              .████████████████.
                           .██████████████████████.
                        -█████████████████████████████
                     .██████████████████████████████████.
                  -█████████████████████████████████████████
               -███████████████████████████████████████████████
           .-█████████████████████████████████████████████████████.
        .████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████
       .██████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████.
       .██████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████.
       ..████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████..
       .   .██████████████████████████████████████████████████████.
       .      .████████████████████████████████████████████████.

       .       .██████████████████████████████████████████████
       .    ██████████████████████████████████████████████████████
       .█████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████.
        .███████████████████████████████████████████████████████████
           .█████████████████████████████████████████████████████
              .████████████████████████████████████████████████
                   ████████████████████████████████████████
                      ██████████████████████████████████
                          ██████████████████████████
                             ████████████████████
                               ████████████████
                                   █████████
.CryptoTalk.org.|.MAKE POSTS AND EARN BTC!.🏆
madken7777
Full Member
***
Offline Offline

Activity: 182
Merit: 100


View Profile
August 15, 2014, 07:47:54 AM
 #89

Argentina could print pesos to buy dollars to pay back their debts. As they sell more pesos, the value of each peso would decrease so the more they print the less dollars they can buy on a per peso basis.

No country has managed to mint its way out of a crisis.

May be they shoud try with cryptocurrencies. Cheesy


I don't think this would be possible. You cannot "mint" cryptos out of thing air. You must first make an investment (buy an ASIC(s)). If you are referring to them creating some kind of altcoin with coins premined then this would also make no sense as it would be unlikely that there would be any kind of demand for this (there is little demand for most alts).
I think most altcoins see "hyperinflation" in their value, that is see their value tumble as people realize that the alt has no value that bitcoin cannot provide.

Even if they do come out with altcoins, its credibility would be linked to the Argentinian government. You would probably see hyperinflation in these altcoins too. Wink
I think that most altcoins experience hyperinflation as more people realize that they cannot offer any thing of value so people sell the coins. This results in the price of the altcoin more or less crashing.

Altcoins have no value to begin with. This is just the dump phase rather than "hyperinflation".

TETOCONPOLERA
Member
**
Offline Offline

Activity: 118
Merit: 10



View Profile
August 16, 2014, 07:33:25 PM
 #90

As you can see in Coinmap, in Argentina we have a lot of business which accepts bitcoins, 148 vs 154 from the other country in south america together





also we have some e-business like bitpagos, digicoins, http://enbitcoins.com (where you can pay taxes and services with bitcoin), two exchange (unisend and satoshitango)



on the other hand, we are near 40.000.000 inhabitants, so we still have a long road...



we have a new "revolutionary moventent".... LaSatoshi when we do a little publicity, it's a half joke, a half seriuos

 https://www.facebook.com/lasatoshi?fref=ts




zedicus
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 966
Merit: 1004

CryptoTalk.Org - Get Paid for every Post!


View Profile WWW
August 16, 2014, 07:43:45 PM
 #91

Argentina could print pesos to buy dollars to pay back their debts. As they sell more pesos, the value of each peso would decrease so the more they print the less dollars they can buy on a per peso basis.

No country has managed to mint its way out of a crisis.

May be they shoud try with cryptocurrencies. Cheesy


I don't think this would be possible. You cannot "mint" cryptos out of thing air. You must first make an investment (buy an ASIC(s)). If you are referring to them creating some kind of altcoin with coins premined then this would also make no sense as it would be unlikely that there would be any kind of demand for this (there is little demand for most alts).
I think most altcoins see "hyperinflation" in their value, that is see their value tumble as people realize that the alt has no value that bitcoin cannot provide.

Even if they do come out with altcoins, its credibility would be linked to the Argentinian government. You would probably see hyperinflation in these altcoins too. Wink
I think that most altcoins experience hyperinflation as more people realize that they cannot offer any thing of value so people sell the coins. This results in the price of the altcoin more or less crashing.

Altcoins have no value to begin with. This is just the dump phase rather than "hyperinflation".
They get their value from the speculators in the market, instead of from the security of the network (miners) as what happens with bitcoin.

 
                                . ██████████.
                              .████████████████.
                           .██████████████████████.
                        -█████████████████████████████
                     .██████████████████████████████████.
                  -█████████████████████████████████████████
               -███████████████████████████████████████████████
           .-█████████████████████████████████████████████████████.
        .████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████
       .██████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████.
       .██████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████.
       ..████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████..
       .   .██████████████████████████████████████████████████████.
       .      .████████████████████████████████████████████████.

       .       .██████████████████████████████████████████████
       .    ██████████████████████████████████████████████████████
       .█████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████.
        .███████████████████████████████████████████████████████████
           .█████████████████████████████████████████████████████
              .████████████████████████████████████████████████
                   ████████████████████████████████████████
                      ██████████████████████████████████
                          ██████████████████████████
                             ████████████████████
                               ████████████████
                                   █████████
.CryptoTalk.org.|.MAKE POSTS AND EARN BTC!.🏆
zen2
Full Member
***
Offline Offline

Activity: 155
Merit: 100



View Profile
August 17, 2014, 10:43:19 AM
 #92

I think Turkey, now you mentioned it, could be a real contender.  Turkey is very well integrated in the international tourism market, has a remittance population in Germany which sends money home and then there are those rules you mentioned.  It was the exchange rules that convinced some Chinese to go big into Bitcoin.

I'm rather excited that now there is supposedly 4000 bank terminals in Ukraine which accept Bitcoin but the problem is I don't want to vacation in a country and have my hotel or hostel get blown up by a ballistic missile. 
cuddaloreappu (OP)
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Activity: 756
Merit: 502


View Profile
August 17, 2014, 04:11:47 PM
 #93


Crying for Argentina


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ya3Dh1K2qvA
botany
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 1582
Merit: 1064


View Profile
August 18, 2014, 11:35:26 AM
 #94

I think Turkey, now you mentioned it, could be a real contender.  Turkey is very well integrated in the international tourism market, has a remittance population in Germany which sends money home and then there are those rules you mentioned.  It was the exchange rules that convinced some Chinese to go big into Bitcoin.

I'm rather excited that now there is supposedly 4000 bank terminals in Ukraine which accept Bitcoin but the problem is I don't want to vacation in a country and have my hotel or hostel get blown up by a ballistic missile. 

There are a lot of countries which seem to be 'ripe' for discovering bitcoin.
itsAj
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Activity: 588
Merit: 500



View Profile
August 21, 2014, 04:13:29 AM
 #95

Argentina could print pesos to buy dollars to pay back their debts. As they sell more pesos, the value of each peso would decrease so the more they print the less dollars they can buy on a per peso basis.

No country has managed to mint its way out of a crisis.

May be they shoud try with cryptocurrencies. Cheesy


I don't think this would be possible. You cannot "mint" cryptos out of thing air. You must first make an investment (buy an ASIC(s)). If you are referring to them creating some kind of altcoin with coins premined then this would also make no sense as it would be unlikely that there would be any kind of demand for this (there is little demand for most alts).

First, all FIAT money is full premine. Second, this alt could be backed by the stated, and that can make it quite popular.
If the national currency is unpopular in a country then why would an atlcoin that is backed by the same country do any better? An altcoin as you describe would have less benefits and more drawbacks then a fiat based currency based by a specific country. The main difference is that an altcoin based currency would be subject to attacks on the network while a fiat based currency would not.
giveBTCpls
Sr. Member
****
Offline Offline

Activity: 322
Merit: 250


View Profile
August 23, 2014, 10:21:06 AM
 #96

Cristina Hitchens is a massive delusional spastic that doesn't get you can't defy the status quo without a more solid plan than saying "we are not paying that debt" then expecting things to not get royalty fucked up.

polynesia
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 1358
Merit: 1000



View Profile
August 23, 2014, 10:27:47 AM
 #97

Cristina Hitchens is a massive delusional spastic that doesn't get you can't defy the status quo without a more solid plan than saying "we are not paying that debt" then expecting things to not get royalty fucked up.

Just trying to get the vulture investors to back down.
Pages: « 1 2 3 4 [5]  All
  Print  
 
Jump to:  

Powered by MySQL Powered by PHP Powered by SMF 1.1.19 | SMF © 2006-2009, Simple Machines Valid XHTML 1.0! Valid CSS!