I am getting a classical conditioning against anyone called JOSH.
Refine that a bit:
Josh Zerlan
Josh Zipkin
Josh Zeidner
There's guy at G4W is named Josh, I'd put BTC down that his last name starts with a Z.
Josh GarZa. Z in there lol. But at least he is operating a business that actually delivers product. Hell Joshua Zipkin had a "cloud" service that was basically running out of what looked like a laundromat with power issues. He has abandoned the US market claiming we are sue crazy. jzdtack624 is Joshua Zipkins skype name. If you have Skype you should easily be able to verify that.
[7/27/2014 11:07:03 PM] jzdtack624: I just wanna sue everyone
[7/27/2014 11:07:07 PM] jzdtack624: Lol
Fact is Josh Zipkin (cause I know he reads these) your ADHD ass should pay close attention. You are essentially exiled from the USA. Set foot here and you will be arrested. That much you can be sure of. I also know it's that reason that you didn't show your fat ass at the inside bitcoins conference. May not have been the best thing to talk about it so openly for us I would have preferred you were in cuffs but since you lack a pair, I figure the misery you will deal with from here on out will be good enough, but now you are an exile from the US. And the fact you have a reputation as a scammer and a general idiot from what has been said about you already even in the insidebitcoins conference (which has been relayed by various sources). Well even you knew that already loumay. This is why you don't fuck with your customers. You ripped us off. Now we teamed up and are making sure you never make another satoshi in this industry.
Here is his talk and excuses about refunds...reasons NOT to give them. I gave him advice on what to do. Something even a reasonable attempt.
[8/12/2014 1:21:49 PM] Tony: Honestly one thing you REALLY need to do to make this right is to repair your reputation. IF you get money back from IMET refund the difference of the original purchase price (if someone paid 6k subtract 1250 for the hardware recieved and refund 4750). You want sales...that starts to show your good faith effort and people will trust you again. They can forgive (maybe not all) but you can actualy get repeat sales this way if you can consistently show you are trying to make all this right.
[8/12/2014 1:21:55 PM] Opieum2: I am not saying I wont buy I gotta think about it
[8/12/2014 1:22:02 PM] Opieum2: BUT you gotta make a public show of it.
[8/12/2014 1:22:24 PM] Opieum2: I know the money is tight but short term profits vs long term equity which will lead to long term profits is key
[8/12/2014 1:22:26 PM] Joshua: its not possible
[8/12/2014 1:22:31 PM] Joshua: 250 doesnt cover the sales
[8/12/2014 1:22:38 PM] Joshua: there will be people left unpaid
[8/12/2014 1:22:43 PM] Opieum2: Ok so what you said about using the IMET money to refund clients is not true then?
[8/12/2014 1:22:51 PM] Joshua: i could do a refund percentage split across the board from all the money received
[8/12/2014 1:22:53 PM] Joshua: thats it
[8/12/2014 1:22:54 PM] Opieum2: You said that in the forum publicly
[8/12/2014 1:23:04 PM] Joshua: well thats the plan
[8/12/2014 1:23:07 PM] Opieum2: Which would be what?
[8/12/2014 1:23:36 PM] Joshua: its difficult to calculate, somepeople ordered 5 or more machines
[8/12/2014 1:23:39 PM] Joshua: it would be based on machines
[8/12/2014 1:23:48 PM] Opieum2: Right so how much per machine then?
[8/12/2014 1:23:57 PM] Joshua: i dont know exactly
[8/12/2014 1:24:13 PM] Joshua: also we still have some bills piling up like legal fees and stuff
[8/12/2014 1:24:15 PM] Opieum2: Thats the thing. I think if the amount is reasonable most people would understand.
Some more chats on this. On where LouMay comes from.
[8/12/2014 1:36:10 PM] Joshua: pictures on the forum
[8/12/2014 1:36:35 PM] Joshua: ahh they'll sell
[8/12/2014 1:36:39 PM] Joshua: yes but again, investment money
[8/12/2014 1:37:02 PM] Joshua: im in a position where im good with inno and ive made friends with all channels of manufacturing
[8/12/2014 1:37:21 PM] Joshua: from the pcb house to design guys, etc
[8/12/2014 1:37:25 PM] Joshua: they call me LouMay
[8/12/2014 1:37:25 PM] Opieum2: Ok well you are getting a distribution chain.
[8/12/2014 1:37:28 PM] Opieum2: That is what you need
[8/12/2014 1:37:34 PM] Joshua: it means Fat Big American
[8/12/2014 1:37:38 PM] Opieum2: LOL
[8/12/2014 1:37:47 PM] Opieum2: Geez
[8/12/2014 1:37:59 PM] Joshua: its said in a humorous way though