CoinDesk censors Monero, loses credibility

[Lauda]

Nobody really cares. Coindesk doesn't care, they have every right to do what they want (unless it is illegal of course).

[obocaman]

They are probably Darkcoin bagholders.

[Bizmark13]

who cares about centralized agents doing what they can in favor of their own business are doing, if some prefer to see XMR as a threat to BTC its their choice, its pretty much what is going to happen more and more, or established Bitcoineirs embrace it out of respect and understating that its a important breakthrough coin launched on honest grounds or they start going berserk out of fear, complaining about this only increases coindesk perceived influence that is very minimal.

I would think that CoinDesk has a lot of influence in the crypto community, just like Bitcoin Magazine, Coinmarketcap.com, and the Bitcoin Foundation do as well. It's similar to how CNN or the WSJ have a lot of influence in the non-crypto community. For example, if CNN published an article attacking Microsoft or Facebook, then you would see their shares plummet. If they published an article praising Obama, then his approval ratings would surely rise.

Nobody really cares. Coindesk doesn't care, they have every right to do what they want (unless it is illegal of course).

Well it isn't illegal for them to ignore Monero and the CryptoNote coins so I agree that I have no problem with it. It is a bit odd however and I can understand why someone who is heavily invested in BCN or XMR might want others to know about it.

[binaryFate]

I've long considered coindesk a source of low-quality reports. But it's true being completely silent on CN is even beyond that.

I think you cannot talk about the wave of "privacy coins", talking about all the bitcoin forks that use complex and ad-hoc obfuscations, without mentioning CN that is doing more, more elegantly, and at the root protocol level. It is simply not possible, not if you pretend to be journalists in crypto.

 

[Coingrab]

It does seem odd that they don't mention CN. 

[Rofo]

You need to pay them. A lot. I'm actually surprised they're improving just 4-5 months ago they were pure BTC/DOGE shills.. until maybe AUR?

Take silence as acknowledgement CN are a rising threat to BTC technology. Anyone who does their research knows about CN/Monero anyway.

[networkcoinage]

Come on over to Coins Source! We cover Monero all the time, most recently we did an interview with their representative David Latapie:

http://www.coinssource.com/monero-interview/

Additionally, Monero Has Scored 6/7 on Coins Source's Trust Index! Address verification is pending for a full 7/7!

https://twitter.com/CoinsSource/statuses/495740913549713408

[fluffypony]

This is just my opinion, but CoinDesk isn't a terribly credible source for any news. Their relationship with the Bitcoin Foundation and other businesses has been called into question on more than one occasion.

That having been said, I'm not sure if we want a ton of press coverage for Monero just yet. It's still in its infancy, and there is a lot of work to be done before we can provide utility and ease of use. The press coverage will come:)

[Lauda]

You need to pay them. A lot. I'm actually surprised they're improving just 4-5 months ago they were pure BTC/DOGE shills.. until maybe AUR?

Take silence as acknowledgement CN are a rising threat to BTC technology. Anyone who does their research knows about CN/Monero anyway.

No it is not a rising threat to BTC, nor will any altcoin be, at least not in the near future.
They just can not mention every coin, be it a good or bad one. Have you tried contacting them?

[iCEBREAKER]

Coins currently immediately above and below XMR on coinmarket cap are blackcoin and XCurrency. Blackcoin has various mentions on coindesk (usually as part of a list along with dogecoin for some reason), but XCurrency has only one. Cloakcoin is right below XC and has been somewhat hot recently, but that's not mentioned either.

So I think it is fairly normal for them to not cover alts below the top 10.

That does not explain removing your comments though.

CryptoNote is HUGE in the alt scene. Right now I count eight different cryptonote related threads in the first page of the bct alt section. It would be pretty tough for someone not to be aware of its existence. Additionally, it's not so much the lack of CN/Monero related articles as much as it's not even mentioned in articles specifically about anonymous tech in the alt scene.  

For example, the most recent article mentions XC, Cloakcoin, Keycoin, and an obscure new anon coin called RobotSexNickels, yet somehow fails to mention Monero, the coin that occupies some 25% of the altcoin discussion on bitcointalk. Gimme a break.

I agree there is no logical explanation for mentioning XC, Cloakcoin, etc. and not mentioning Monero. 

Here's a logical explanation:

CoinDesk are accumulating Monero, while hyping and dumping their pre-pump stash of CrapCoins like DRK.

When CoinDesk has enough cheap XMR, they will announce it to the world with great fanfare.

If anyone wants to do something to remedy this situation, I pledge 20 XMR to buying a banner ad for Cryptonote on CoinDesk.   

[rugrats]

Whether you're a supporter of Monero (or cryptonote in general) or not, I hope that many of you see the importance of (relatively) unbiased journalism. It has become quite apparent that CoinDesk is all but refusing to acknowledge the existence of the tech, despite its recent explosion into the alt scene. CryptoNote is arguably one of the biggest innovations in the crypto space since BitCoin, and yet has hardly received a mention on CoinDesk, nevermind an explanation. Two months ago this lack of reporting seemed innocent and excusable, but now it's getting pretty ridiculous. I've commented on CoinDesk's blatant omissions in several relevant articles and every single time my comments were removed.

This post is not out of concern for Monero, as the currency is doing exceedingly well and will continue to grow whether CoinDesk chooses to acknowlege it or not. It is, however, a huge red flag to anyone who looks to CoinDesk for unbiased news reporting and updates on the general state of the crypto space. They've just lost a ton of respect and credibility.

I highly encourage those of you who use Twitter and care about the issue to call their asses out! @coindesk

Not covering a story is not "unbiased journalism". Besides, they have covered Monero before.

http://www.coindesk.com/darkcoin-duel-xc-demise-mcdogecoin/

Darkcoin, x11coin (XC) and monero are a few altcoins that have seen big increases in attention from investors, traders and crypto-enthusiasts.

Perhaps they don't see Monero or Cryptonote as significant as you do. Perhaps the writing staff are not fans of either. Perhaps there are no quality articles from contributing writers. Perhaps one of the devs slept with the wife of one of their editors (okay, that's a little biased).

Regardless, your accusation is not helpful to either Monero or Cryptonote. It fact, it might create resentment. After all, apart from plagiarism, bias is probably the worse thing you can accuse a publication or a journalist of.

[tifozi]

The first time Darkcoin ever made it to Coindesk, was because of furious uproar at Stan for not mentioning Darkcoin in an article about new algorithms taking over alt scene "like X11" via the comment section of the article. The article mentioned "HiroCoin" and some country coin as great examples of X11 while completely neglecting to even mention Darkcoin, and Evan Duffeld, for creating x11. The comment section and the Darkcoin thread was full of angries, just like this thread  

Edit: here is the article http://www.coindesk.com/advanced-algorithms-maxcoin-dogecar/

Stan promptly amended the article taking the feedback from the comment section and followed up with an interview with Evan a few days later.

At that time similar theories were always being talked about in the Darkcoin thread about the hatred and censorhip of Darkcoin in coindesk. Funny that now Coindesk is being believed to be surreptitiously nefarious towards Monero. Hope they talk about Boolberry soon too !

[binaryFate]

Ok guys, let's get organized and effective!

Next article that has anything to do with privacy and is not mentioning CN as it should, we all write a shit load of (intelligent, constructive and relevant) comments about CN, and what it brings to the community, and point out that coindesk is completely silent on such a huge technological achievement.

If any such article is appearing, please post the link here!

[iGotSpots]

"They won't write about what I like so they don't have integrity anymore"

Around here, we call people like you whiny bitches

[binaryFate]

"They won't write about what I like so they don't have integrity anymore"

Around here, we call people like you whiny bitches

They should not talk about the cryptonote protocol and ring signatures because we like it, but because it's a very major contribution to the cryptocurrencies evolution. They *have to* mention it, at the very minimum when they talk about privacy-centered coins.
I am pretty sure you are used to bitcoin-forked alts and don't know yourself how big of a change this technology is, thus your comment that is assimilating people here with "usual" crap-coins pumpers/zealots/whiners.

[blaaaaacksuit]

This is really funny.  I use twitter a lot for trading purposes and follow quite a few of the most well know twitter traders out there, and there are quite a few of them.  These people will tweet about any insignificant rise in any stupid shitcoin they are currently hyping.  If someone puts a 5btc buy wall on potcoin, youre going to hear about it, over and over again.  The strange thing is, NONE of these accounts (save one maybe two) has ever mentioned XMR.  Not once.  I literally heard NOTHING about XMR during that mintpal rise to .01, and that pump went on for days and days.  I would even tried to initiate conversations about XMR but nobody would respond, I found it to be totally bizarre and even began to wonder if all these different people were really like 1 or 2 guys.  Now I read about coindesk pretending cryptonote is not real, and deleting comments, makes me want to get out my tinfoil hat.     This all just makes me think the general consensus is, accumulate as much XMR as you can, and don't mention it ever to make sure the price stays as low as possible. 

Pretending the people at coindesk don't have their own self serving interests is just naive.  Even if it's not about accumulation, it's about something.  Coindesk wrote up articles on VIAcoin within a few days of its release and about the clearinghouse idea, despite the fact that it hadn't even been coded yet!  So attributing the silence on XMR to it still being in its infancy doesn't add up.  Actively deleting comments is a major red flag.

[Nxtblg]

Nah, coindesk is busy pumping IPO coin:

Yes that tends to happen a lot. Easier to write a story from a press release than to actually find one.

Oh yes, a lot easier. Someone who undertakes that kind of legwork might as well take on more and write a book.

[Johnny Mnemonic]

"They won't write about what I like so they don't have integrity anymore"

Around here, we call people like you whiny bitches

As I already said, it's not even about Monero specifically, but the idea that a reputable news source is intentionally witholding information on major developments in the alt space. If you're a CoinDesk reader, you should be concerned regardless of your interest in Monero or CryotoNote tech, as their motivations apparently extend beyond reporting the news.

[giveBTCpls]

This is simply bitting yourself in your own foot because anyone with half a brain knows Monero and the dev team is legit and has a trusteable background in the crypto enviornment. I still think there is a considerable amount of Darkcoin bagholding up in this.

[Spoetnik]

Come on over to Coins Source! We cover Monero all the time, most recently we did an interview with their representative David Latapie:

http://www.coinssource.com/monero-interview/

Additionally, Monero Has Scored 6/7 on Coins Source's Trust Index! Address verification is pending for a full 7/7!

https://twitter.com/CoinsSource/statuses/495740913549713408

shell account from coin cloning spammer i have caught lying and playing games before.

this guy had created a coin and used the Trade symbol SRC a ton of us posted on his ANN topic he posted in Main this was used already
and he told all of us ooops and he would change it and he got laughed at pretty damn hard.
he never did.. he waited roughly a month or two and by the time he had arranged with Poloniex to have his new scam coin added to Poloniex
using the exact trade symbol we had all laughed at him about !
He seemed to forget an entire topic of people telling him he's
- a noob that showed up in January
- an idiot for not doing some extremely basics research

After i seen this mistake pushed through even though he had agreed to change it BEFORE it could get on any exchange..
i told mods on poloniex chat at least 3 times.
I had harped them to the point where i got a response from them to confirm they weren't ignoring me playing dumb.
They pretty much said who cares..
And they (Poloniex) did not change anything or even say they would look into it.
Anyone with half a brain should have suspended the market and gotten word to the dev.. common sense.
many many months later SRC is still on poloniex !
and the ORIGINAL SRC (from last year) is still on countless other exchanges and the network is still alive etc.

Problem is the guy lied when he said he would change it.. instead he buried the topic and tried to push on..
which factoring in he was TOLD he was using another used trade symbol means he is scammy ! ..he knew better..
he was told and agreed and said he'd change it but he did not !
then when i seen his stupid exchange stunt after all the drama that went on way back i confronted him and he went on to attack me etc.
proving he is a lying manipulative scammer even further.. rather than admitting he screwed up like he did already..
instead the second time i was just a Troll.. i guess i didn't have enough people to back me up on round 2 for him to give in and say sorry.

and the kicker here is this guy used the trade symbol of an established and well known coin from last year that was released fairly.
SRC is s coin that was made to mimic bitcoin's block reward and coin specs etc. (A POW only coin with a unique algo Quark v2)
And this guys newer SRC coin was nothing but a clone coin IPO SCAM !
So he was capitalizing on the honest and legit nature of the other trade symbols reputation..
He knows people out there would easily get confused when arb'ing SRC from one place to another.. suckering them into buying IPO scam coins.
He knew because he was told !
and he agreed and said oops and sorry and he would change it.. and never did.
instead he went and did the opposite and had it added to exchanges (that are too dumb to check for existing trade symbols)
then even further went on to play dumb like all that drama away back never happened call people a troll and attack them to defend his scammy crap !

this all proves with out a doubt the guy is scammer based on his series of reactions of the course of this year.
and he has made countless other clone coins or supported other scammy coins before..
and his latest project is some kind of TRUST INDEX
where now he wants to be the gate keeper of crypto issuing seals of trust to people.
i could piss my pants laughing LOL
This coin cloning shit coin spammer and IPO scam pusher has waited a while and popped up with more web sites / coins / services etc
and shell accounts..

ya lets have a scammer / spammer giving trust ratings and have em start and host the site LOL
guys these scammers are bloody ballsy as hell and they WILL NOT give up..
they simply wait till the heat dies down and they register a slew of new domains and launch a bunch more shit coin scams and doin all over again.

pretty obvious it's guy using a shell account to advertise his site..
and lately this scammer has been pushing a variety of services he started to build a reputation for his IPO clone coins.
so this guy is skulking around trying to name drop his web sites etc..

Coinsource ANN = https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=688494.0
and main user is tk808