Sanction against Russia for West-choreographed conflict in Ukraine

[bryant.coleman]

In EU, such donor republics are Germany and France, and they are at the breaking point trying to sustain the union.

#1. Germany
#2. France
#3. UK
#4. Italy
#5. The Netherlands (in that order).

These republics are not doing that bad. But it is the Mediterranean republics who are suffering (Greece, Cyprus, Spain, Portugal.etc). Money which previously went to these nations (from the donor nations) are being diverted to the New EU nations, such as Romania and Bulgaria.

[zen2]

How long will that take?

Cows reach maturity after at least 9 moths but most at 12 , add this to the gestation period so it will take two years just to have ready the new cows to enlarge the herds. add the same period to start producing extra meat.

Of course , the farmers could buy those cows....from europe who will have plenty;).

The reason russia was importing food from europe was because it was cheaper the hike will be reflected in the people wallets.
Along with the 3% new sale tax that will be added next year.
And with the 6% yearly inflation.

[Nemo1024]

Medvedev says that he views positively the effect sanctions have on Russian economy:
http://top.rbc.ru/economics/18/08/2014/943536.shtml

Meanwhile, Russia discovered attempts at re-export from Belarus of the embargoed goods:
http://1prime.ru/consumer_markets/20140818/790308076.html

However, Trade Union countries can export to Russia processes goods, where the embargoed raw materials are used, so Belarus and Kazahstan stand potentially to win:
http://www.interfax.ru/business/391973

Of course , the farmers could buy those cows....from europe who will have plenty;).

Why from Europe? Argentina has good stock, so do other non-hostile countries.

The reason russia was importing food from europe was because it was cheaper the hike will be reflected in the people wallets.

Primarily it was done because Russian domestic agriculture was systematically destroyed during the 90's (in Belarus, all the fields are used and in good condition), and US/Europe had a hand in it, pushing the Yeltsin government to trade more, produce less policy. A strong incentive is now needed to revive the agricultural sector.

[niothor]

Medvedev says that he views positively the effect sanctions have on Russian economy:
http://top.rbc.ru/economics/18/08/2014/943536.shtml

I think the image at the bottom shows how good effects it has on the Russian economy.


I read in all the news that the government is trying to monitor prices in Moscow , Crimea and a few major cities.
Apart from the fact that this along with a so called "reinforcement" resembles a your know what measures , is there a way to find out what where the prices at the beginning of the year and how they are trending now ?

[Nemo1024]

I'll take a look....

Meanwhile, Poland complained to WTO about Russian counter-sanctions to Polish sanctions. Anyone sees hypocrisy here? Time for Russia to leave WTO.
http://lenta.ru/news/2014/08/19/poland/

[Nemo1024]

Apart from the fact that this along with a so called "reinforcement" resembles a your know what measures , is there a way to find out what where the prices at the beginning of the year and how they are trending now ?

My guess is that they are trending up, as they already did in the beginning of the year, so nothing new here:
http://ria.ru/economy/20140424/1005289913.html

The list of embargoed goods is still fine-tuned, it will hit hardest the "elite" part of the Moscow and St.Petersburg population, but they will also be making the most noise...

I think your best starting point would be:
http://www.gks.ru/wps/wcm/connect/rosstat_main/rosstat/en/main/
http://www.gks.ru/wps/wcm/connect/rosstat_main/rosstat/en/figures/finances/


American journal Foreign Affairs analysed the situation with US sanctions and came to the conclusion that it will negatively impact the countries of Asian-Pacific region, even if they don't join the US, which sent a number of envoys to various countries there to persuade them to join the sanctions:
http://itar-tass.com/ekonomika/1391344?utm_medium=rss20

Looks, like Europe is preparing for counter-counter-counter-countersanctions (calling them prophylactic - doublespeak again!). In EU parliament there was voiced a proposition to create sanctions that should "hit hard the Russian economy", and to that end exclude Russian rouble from exchanges in Europe, making it non-convertable. howver, this was voiced by the new vice-speaker Charneckij, who is from Poland, so it's to be expected:
http://ria.ru/economy/20140821/1020786176.html

Well, rouble was used on the national market to start with and didn't have much circulation in Europe (except for tourists exchanges, maybe). But with BRICS everything's changing as the BRICS countries will use national currencies in their international trade. With this, and the facts that Polish foreign policy towards Russia is largely dictated from London and Washington, everything falls into place.

[Balthazar]

[bryant.coleman]

^^^ At least now the EU supermarkets will be forced to cut down prices of their ultra-expensive food products. Most of the ordinary EU citizens will now be thanking Putin for making food more affordable.  And at the same time, the farmers won't be affected, as they are compensated by the EU. Better still, the farmers in the non-EU nations such as Serbia will get good prices for their farm-products. A win-win situation for all.

[Balthazar]

And at the same time, the farmers won't be affected, as they are compensated by the EU.

I wouldn't be so sure about that.

[Tusk]

A large portion of EU agricultural production is reliant on government subsidies, by imposing sanctions the EU will have to either increase the subsidies or allow more producers to go out of business either way its not going to improve prices or the sustainability of producers.   

[Balthazar]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qp47DssZFgs

It seems that these guys weren't satisfied.

[Balthazar]

http://youtu.be/--FGUPobyNI

Dr. Alfons Proebstl 31 - Auch die Russen lieben ihre Kinder

[DhaniBoy]

I think not all field which will give sanction against Russia, maybe only military sanction or the others, the farmer in Russia is one of the best farmer in the world that can not be given sanction, culture, scientist, education, etc ...
Hopefully this sanction doesn't take effect to warefare of the country ...

[Nemo1024]

And all the while we should not lose focus of why those sanctions were imposed:

Officially, because Russia will not invade Ukraine and stop the war there (how else can Russia stop a war in another country, when all diplomatic initiatives have systematically been blocked by EU/US):
See today's speech from Lavrov:
http://ria.ru/world/20140827/1021634114.html
http://rt.com/news/183136-west-russia-confrontation-lavrov/

In reality, it's because of BRICS and Russia not wanting to play the dollar game any more.

In either case, these sanctions against Russia are a de-juro declaration of war.

Ah, I see some sense from the Communist Party of Russian Federation:

Communists say Russia should throw off ‘strangling noose’ of WTO
http://rt.com/politics/182560-russia-communists-wto-quit/

“In reality it is a strangling noose on our country’s neck, and an attempt to introduce external management of Russia as a nation,” the head of the Communist Party’s legal department Vadim Solovyov was quoted as saying by the ITAR-TASS news agency.

The move was timed to coincide with the two-year anniversary of Russia’s entry into the World Trade Organization, and MP Rashkin called it a “sad date.”

“Those who had actively lobbied the entry promised that it would open new markets and give access to the latest technologies, the much needed modernization, but instead we got a sharp fall in GDP growth in just two years – from an acceptable 3.4 percent to a puny 0.2 percent. Capital outflow has intensified as well as the inflow of imports that destroy domestic production. The investment activity has plunged and even the most powerful enterprises and industries are suffering from gigantic losses,” the lawmaker said in an interview with the Interfax news agency.

[Nemo1024]

Russian gas sector should not be sanctioned – EU energy chief
http://rt.com/business/183364-russian-gas-not-sanctioned/

Switzerland mirrors EU sanctions against Russia
http://rt.com/business/183296-switzerland-sanctions-russian-lenders/

Bye-bye Swiss cheese.

What irks me is why they talk about sanctions as a normal everyday stuff in the first place?

[niothor]

Deputy Economic Development Minister Alexei Vedev told a briefing on Tuesday that the ministry now saw inflation standing at 7-7.5 percent at the end of 2014, up from its previous forecast of 6 percent. It cited the impact of a ban on Western food imports that Russia introduced in retaliation for Western sanctions.

He added that a new tax on sales to be introduced next year would also add around 1 percent to the inflation rate.

The ministry left its 2014 gross domestic product growth forecast unchanged at 0.5 percent despite ministry officials having said several times in recent months that they may raise it.

But it halved its economic growth forecast for 2015 to 1 percent from 2 percent.

and then there is the magic number 37.2115....

[Nemo1024]

EU drafts new sanctions against Russia over Ukraine, but ‘wants no confrontation’
http://rt.com/news/183944-eu-sanctions-ukraine-summit/

Ahead of an EU summit, the European Commission has drafted a new set of sanctions against Russia over the Ukraine crisis, adding that it wants neither confrontation nor a Cold War with Moscow, which would be “detrimental” to all Europe.

“We are ready to take very strong and clear measures but we are keeping our doors open to a political solution,” European Commission President Jose Manuel Barroso told a news conference in Brussels after his meeting with Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko Saturday.

No they are not. Each time Russia comes with an initiative for peaceful resolution of Ukrainian internal conflict, that gets blocked in the UN by either USA or Lithuania.

“The EU summit's signal must be clear: if there is no truce, peace plan implementation and full border control, new sanctions will follow," Finnish Prime Minister Alexander Stubb said on Saturday, as quoted by Itar-Tass.

As I said: Russia proposed that Kiev takes steps to a peaceful dialogue with the freedom fighters. Nixed by Kiev. Border control? and what are the OSCE observers are doing at the border all the time? Are they sugegstion building a wall? The border between Russia and Ukraine is as physical as the border between Belgium and Holland.

Some reader comments:

Libertine 30.08.2014 19:58

so why not call a ceasefire and settle it. Not the plan i guess. They want the gas fields and the kill as many russian people there as possible east and then put Nato on the border of russia for phase two and continue with the US plan of world domination. Maybe Russia should just turn off the gas.
 
martial firmin 30.08.2014 19:57

I know one day someone will say enough is enough .but I don't know who will say that.

And

EU sanctions are emotional step instructed by US – Russian parliament speaker
http://rt.com/news/183936-naryshkin-ukraine-sanctions-reaction/

Blacklisting Russian individuals and targeting the country’s economy is but an emotional step the EU took after an apparent instruction from the US, Russian State Duma speaker Sergey Naryshkin told RT. But Moscow hasn’t sought to even the score, he added.

Naryshkin called the personalized sanctions imposed on Russian MPs, including Naryshkin himself, by European counterparts “strange, or even absurd” since Europeans “have always prided themselves on their democratic tradition,” while the personalized sanctions are “absolutely at odds” with that.

[niothor]

So the Russians want to ban flight over Siberia.  Good...

National carrier Aeroflot on Thursday reported a net loss of 1.9 billion rubles ($52 million) for the first six months of the year as tensions between Moscow and the West coupled with a slowing economy deter Russians from traveling abroad.

Add here the 200 millions it gets from those flight that will go to 0 and there we have it. Each russian will will have to pay this loss out of their pockets..

Aeroflot collects royalties from foreign carriers for Siberian overflights, receiving about $170 million in 2013, according to Irina Stupachenko, an analyst at Otkritie Capital in Moscow. Stupachenko said any restrictions would be “very negative” for the airline, for which the royalty payments are equal to 18 percent of full-year earnings.

[Rassah]

Sad thing is, these sanctions can be stopped almost instantly, if Russia simply denounces those who have illegally entered another country and are fighting a foreign military, stopped (not promised, but *stopped*) supplying military troops and hardware to those fighters, and stopped its obvious, massive, anti-Ukraine propaganda campaign. But of course that will never happen, as Russia sees no problems with their citizens "voluntarily" invading other countries and killing other people (troops or civilians), never admits it has done anything wrong, and is completely incapable of not lying, after doing it nonstop for the last 100 years.

[Nemo1024]

There is an accurate comparison to the sanctions situation:

US and European sanctions against Russia can be compared to a terrorist (US/EU leaders) aboard on an airplane that stands firmly in the ground brandishing a grenade and demanding that the pilot (Russia) lands the plane, while the pilot tries to calmly tell the terrorist that the plane is already landed and there is no reason to kill everyone on board (Europe).

And a joke that I read recently:
- The West was saying that Russia is the gas station of Europe, but it turns out that it's Europe that is the farm of Russia.