Low power chips WANTED!!! 0.3 W/Ghs or around. Ideal miner design for exchange

[sidehack]

Or use good PSUs which can load-balance.

Also, I wonder if Bitmain intends to do any more talking about their off-the-cuff comment in this currently very-off-topic thread, or if they'll start a new one for the actual announcement.

[Finksy]

Is it the Chinese April Fool's too? 

I'm doubtful we'll hear much until after their Holiday, at which time they'll probably make a big post and add the product to their website in their typical fashion.  But, it's not the first time we've been promised such things as upgrade kits for S2's, and if their S1 upgrade path was any indication, it may not even be economically feasible.  Lately they've been tending to miss the boat on launch prices..

[dogie]

S6 yeah!

I wonder if these new S6 blades will have a mod for the S4 not just the S2

so s6 is in the testing
if the price is right, i might upgrade an s2 or 2

I don't see any mention of an S6, just an S2 to S5 upgrade kit.

Awesome stuff..

Now on a totally different note..

Seriously, how many freaking festivals/Holidays do the chinese people have!? - and every time, they seem to shut Down the entire country for a week.

They do it better than us, EVERYONE goes on holiday at the same time in the same few weeks of the year so its coordinated.

[Justbyteme]

Thanks to legkodymov.
S5 was based on legkodymov's serial power design, and its power consumption at wall is 0.51W/G.
S2-replace PCB will be released after Chinese Spring Festival, and it will be serial powered too, and its power consumpiton at wall will be less than 0.4W/G.

Thx Bitmain!
Any idea on price for the new S2 PCB?

[Finksy]

I don't see any mention of an S6, just an S2 to S5 upgrade kit.

I don't see any mention of an S5, just an S2 replacement PCB drawing 0.4 W/Gh.

Edit: This doesn't even necessarily mean upgrade kit, it might simply mean the successor to the S2 (and in turn S4).

[dogie]

I don't see any mention of an S6, just an S2 to S5 upgrade kit.

I don't see any mention of an S5, just an S2 replacement PCB drawing 0.4 W/Gh.

Edit: This doesn't even necessarily mean upgrade kit, it might simply mean the successor to the S2 (and in turn S4).

Not a S5 per se, but to S5 level boards / tech. Its certainly not an S6 though, which will be a S2 / S4 style miner [non official].

[Finksy]

Tomato tomato, we're all speculating at this point. When the S1 upgrade kit came along it was essentially an S3.  With this S2 upgrade how is it "Certainly" not an S6 but instead an S5 (which has a completely different efficiency and frame...)?

[klondike_bar]

Thanks to legkodymov.
S5 was based on legkodymov's serial power design, and its power consumption at wall is 0.51W/G.
S2-replace PCB will be released after Chinese Spring Festival, and it will be serial powered too, and its power consumpiton at wall will be less than 0.4W/G.

Thx Bitmain!
Any idea on price for the new S2 PCB?

Ive got 2 S2 just sitting here - finally i can get some use from them! 2.5TH? not shabby

obviously the PCB kit/boards has to be cheap enough - right now the S5 pricing sucks a little bit ($370 still)

[Meech]

Price will be the determining factor.  If you already have a S2 better yet, but probably not worth
buying an S2 just to upgrade.  Unless Bitmain wants to let used ones go and complete with updated
boards.  That may be an option they should look into.  Still stumped at the price of the S5 staying still.
Come on Holidays, be gone!

[gaalx]

waiting for the announcement of the price.

[Rabinovitch]

waiting for the announcement of the price.

I'm wondering what if I buy another (couple?) S2(s) for the purpose of upgrade... Will Bitmain play the fool with us again like they did before?..

[dmeter]

I would like offer a best ever miner design in exchange for such chip. What I mean of 'ideal miner'. Manufacturing costs for miner will be only around 1/5 of overall price. 4/5 of price will be net cost of chips.

Miner will run at high voltage with great efficiency ~95%.
I have prototypes for different current chip manufacturers, so I can provide proof if needed. Also I have a farm for personal use that employ such technology.

whay you joke around bitcoin.If you good chip designer.Apple,AMD,Samsung pay you couple bilion $ and more if you design working FinFET in 14-16 nm.
But if i can design working 14-16 nm chip i sale patent right in first year 100$ by chip and colect 20-30 bilion $ second year by apple,samsung,AMD,Intel and all other smartphone company.



TSMC: We're "Far Superior" to Intel and Samsung as a Partner Fab - See more at:  year 2013 http://www.dailytech.com/TSMC+Were+Far+Superior+to+Intel+and+Samsung+as+a+Partner+Fab/article34148.htm#sthash.2SBQbwb0.dpuf
today after spending 10 bilion in FAB
http://recode.net/2015/02/04/apple-taps-samsung-to-manufacture-next-iphone-chip/

http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/biz/archives/2015/02/18/2003611800

you must contact  http://www.tsmc.com/english/default.htm tsmc produce chip You must have only $ in advance cuple year.

[gaalx]

waiting for the announcement of the price.

I'm wondering what if I buy another (couple?) S2(s) for the purpose of upgrade... Will Bitmain play the fool with us again like they did before?..

I have two s2. waiting for announcements.

[wlefever]

Price will be the determining factor.  If you already have a S2 better yet, but probably not worth
buying an S2 just to upgrade.  Unless Bitmain wants to let used ones go and complete with updated
boards.  That may be an option they should look into.  Still stumped at the price of the S5 staying still.
Come on Holidays, be gone!

I am hoping they do something like this.  Not going to go out and get an S2 just yet, but if the price is right may find some good used ones.

[Furio]

Thanks to legkodymov.
S5 was based on legkodymov's serial power design, and its power consumption at wall is 0.51W/G.
S2-replace PCB will be released after Chinese Spring Festival, and it will be serial powered too, and its power consumpiton at wall will be less than 0.4W/G.

Can't wait,  please not as noisy as the s5's

[dmeter]

They do it better than us, EVERYONE goes on holiday at the same time in the same few weeks of the year so its coordinated.

yes maybe for factory owner,for me hotel owner this is stupid idea.I wote every 2- month minimum 7 days paid holiday.every EU state different week starting holiday

Too much rest no one has died.
If you see someone resting, help him
Do not do today what you can do tomorrow
Working as little as you can, and what exactly you can not avoid leaving to another person

[ATCkit]

I would like offer a best ever miner design in exchange for such chip. What I mean of 'ideal miner'. Manufacturing costs for miner will be only around 1/5 of overall price. 4/5 of price will be net cost of chips.

Miner will run at high voltage with great efficiency ~95%.
I have prototypes for different current chip manufacturers, so I can provide proof if needed. Also I have a farm for personal use that employ such technology.

whay you joke around bitcoin.If you good chip designer.Apple,AMD,Samsung pay you couple bilion $ and more if you design working FinFET in 14-16 nm.
But if i can design working 14-16 nm chip i sale patent right in first year 100$ by chip and colect 20-30 bilion $ second year by apple,samsung,AMD,Intel and all other smartphone company.



TSMC: We're "Far Superior" to Intel and Samsung as a Partner Fab - See more at:  year 2013 http://www.dailytech.com/TSMC+Were+Far+Superior+to+Intel+and+Samsung+as+a+Partner+Fab/article34148.htm#sthash.2SBQbwb0.dpuf
today after spending 10 bilion in FAB
http://recode.net/2015/02/04/apple-taps-samsung-to-manufacture-next-iphone-chip/

http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/biz/archives/2015/02/18/2003611800

you must contact  http://www.tsmc.com/english/default.htm tsmc produce chip You must have only $ in advance cuple year.

If I understand you correctly, you're saying bitcoin chip designers should be working toward a FinFET 14-16 nm chip.  I've read that there are two companies getting close.... and one company has reached tapeout saying the chip is 0.07 W/GHS???:

http://techcrunch.com/2014/11/02/bitcoin-brothers-aim-to-disrupt-bitcoin-mining-with-new-more-powerful-supercomputers/

http://cryptomining-blog.com/3854-kncminer-solar-new-16nm-asic-chips-coming-in-2015/

http://www.creandum.com/accel-partners-invests-in-kncminer-16nm-tape-out-completed/

Maybe we won't see these 2 manufacturers with the super efficient mining rigs using the FinFET16 chip for a few or several months?:

http://wccftech.com/tsmcs-16nm-finfet-faces-delays-qualcomm-jumps-ship-samsung/

http://www.guru3d.com/news-story/nvidia-moving-to-tsmc-16nm-finfet-process.html

All in all, it looks like a new "chip efficiency race" is ready to begin??

or

Is it all hype???

Bottomline:

Most miners love what Bitmain has done for the industry. If these new super efficient chips are close to becoming a reality, then Bitmain is likely exploring/developing them too.... so that they can maintain their share of the market.

[Sem]

Don`t see any info about new products. Hamsters buying S5.

[mewhoyou]

quiet after the announcement ... sigh..

[Unacceptable]

I would like offer a best ever miner design in exchange for such chip. What I mean of 'ideal miner'. Manufacturing costs for miner will be only around 1/5 of overall price. 4/5 of price will be net cost of chips.

Miner will run at high voltage with great efficiency ~95%.
I have prototypes for different current chip manufacturers, so I can provide proof if needed. Also I have a farm for personal use that employ such technology.

whay you joke around bitcoin.If you good chip designer.Apple,AMD,Samsung pay you couple bilion $ and more if you design working FinFET in 14-16 nm.
But if i can design working 14-16 nm chip i sale patent right in first year 100$ by chip and colect 20-30 bilion $ second year by apple,samsung,AMD,Intel and all other smartphone company.



TSMC: We're "Far Superior" to Intel and Samsung as a Partner Fab - See more at:  year 2013 http://www.dailytech.com/TSMC+Were+Far+Superior+to+Intel+and+Samsung+as+a+Partner+Fab/article34148.htm#sthash.2SBQbwb0.dpuf
today after spending 10 bilion in FAB
http://recode.net/2015/02/04/apple-taps-samsung-to-manufacture-next-iphone-chip/

http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/biz/archives/2015/02/18/2003611800

you must contact  http://www.tsmc.com/english/default.htm tsmc produce chip You must have only $ in advance cuple year.

If I understand you correctly, you're saying bitcoin chip designers should be working toward a FinFET 14-16 nm chip.  I've read that there are two companies getting close.... and one company has reached tapeout saying the chip is 0.07 W/GHS???:

http://techcrunch.com/2014/11/02/bitcoin-brothers-aim-to-disrupt-bitcoin-mining-with-new-more-powerful-supercomputers/

http://cryptomining-blog.com/3854-kncminer-solar-new-16nm-asic-chips-coming-in-2015/

http://www.creandum.com/accel-partners-invests-in-kncminer-16nm-tape-out-completed/

Maybe we won't see these 2 manufacturers with the super efficient mining rigs using the FinFET16 chip for a few or several months?:

http://wccftech.com/tsmcs-16nm-finfet-faces-delays-qualcomm-jumps-ship-samsung/

http://www.guru3d.com/news-story/nvidia-moving-to-tsmc-16nm-finfet-process.html

All in all, it looks like a new "chip efficiency race" is ready to begin??

or

Is it all hype???

Bottomline:

Most miners love what Bitmain has done for the industry. If these new super efficient chips are close to becoming a reality, then Bitmain is likely exploring/developing them too.... so that they can maintain their share of the market.

The only problem KnC & Bitcoin Brothers are not going to sell to the public,just to corps wanting to start massive farms (or themselves),same as Bitfury & Spoondolies  

Not sure if Bitmain can keep selling to us home miners either...have to wait & see