Putin at war with the internet.. who is going to win?

[247crypto]

So you're a russian who has got to the lengths of getting a eu resident permit at last and you brag about how good your mother russia is and how bad the eu is.

Why have you come to europe then?

Oh, that is the reason, why is impossible listen nothing true from Your part.
I'm european, look at Globe, where is Moscow.

Well, if You come to different place to live - You will change Your opinion about criminal thing and legal things?

You will declare, that Italian McDonalds is illegal to ask my name and mobile phone number to provide "free" Wi-Fi access?

[Mike Christ]

Do any of these new policies appear to make sense, even superficially?

Similar to Putin's "revenge" restrictions on EU products, I'm at a loss to see how any of it is actually meant to be good for Russians.

Well, the whole point of government is to protect citizens from themselves by divine or elected right, so it's apparent that the Russians feel they can no longer handle freedom in regards to their Internet privileges; Putin, being the president of Russia, is the most intelligent man in that nation so says the voters, as well as being their voice, therefore he and his colleagues know far greater than anyone else what's best for the Russian people at this particular time and that's an NK-style walled garden to protect the citizens from terrorism and Nazis and terrorist nazi bloggers and so forth.

What's better for a nation than to huddle as closely to that nation as possible?  Through these means, the Russian people will forget all about the people of outside nations, and will remember why their nation is so great: it is because it is the one they happened to be born into, but to them, it will be because it's the #1 nation in the world.  By shutting out other cultures, the Russian people might even hit the nation-state enlightenment: to believe that they are the "chosen people" and that all others are the equivalent of animals, prime for slavery and slaughter.  In this manner, the Russians have a chance to become the dominant group of the planet, rather than a mere participant within a global economy, which will no doubt inevitably destroy their nation as dreams of voluntary association increase and accelerate and materialize; no politician wants this, it would mean an end to their jobs as the recipients of bribes.

It is therefore necessary for world leaders to join the individual minds of their respective nation into a collective unit, as individual cells of a body create a living being, with the general public as the muscles and organs, and the government as the brain, and removing the dissonance which stems from other cultures and ideas is an important step in achieving this goal.  It may not help the Russians be any more civil or peaceful or intelligent or otherwise better off--heck, it'll probably make things worse for them--but it'll make the lawmaker's jobs easier so it's not hard to see why Pootypoot would give his own people the proverbial middle-finger through these policies.

[niothor]

So you're a russian who has got to the lengths of getting a eu resident permit at last and you brag about how good your mother russia is and how bad the eu is.

Why have you come to europe then?

Oh, that is the reason, why is impossible listen nothing true from Your part.
I'm european, look at Globe, where is Moscow.

Well, if You come to different place to live - You will change Your opinion about criminal thing and legal things?

You will declare, that Italian McDonalds is illegal to ask my name and mobile phone number to provide "free" Wi-Fi access?

you said you're a citizen of the EU , moscow is not not in the EU.
And unfortunately this is my last reply to you.

I can't talk to a person that can't speak or write so I can understand what he is saying.

[Ivica]

you said you're a citizen of the EU , moscow is not not in the EU.
And unfortunately this is my last reply to you.

I can't talk to a person that can't speak or write so I can understand what he is saying.

Well, duh. You only need 1 or 2 days to spot all the people who follow RT and Itar-tass and cannot trust anything else. And I doubt you'll be able to change their mind.
After all, you're evil West, seeking to enslave the great nation and their leader.

[desired_username]

Well, duh. You only need 1 or 2 days to spot all the people who follow RT and Itar-tass and cannot trust anything else. And I doubt you'll be able to change their mind.
After all, you're evil West, seeking to enslave the great nation and their leader.

I honestly hate both sides, but in my experience RT is way more objective/accurate than any western media.

Sadly, we are all exposed to too much propaganda and baseless ideologies, it all comes down to the fact that the majority of the people are stupid as fuck everywhere on the planet.

[niothor]

you said you're a citizen of the EU , moscow is not not in the EU.
And unfortunately this is my last reply to you.

I can't talk to a person that can't speak or write so I can understand what he is saying.

Well, duh. You only need 1 or 2 days to spot all the people who follow RT and Itar-tass and cannot trust anything else. And I doubt you'll be able to change their mind.
After all, you're evil West, seeking to enslave the great nation and their leader.

I knew from the start that 247crypto is a propaganda machine...i accused him of this thousands of times..
A guy come to bitcointalk and posts only in threads about russia....
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out of his 400 posts most of them are in pictures from russia thread

But I usually confront him to show others that 75% of his posts are nothing but lies so others don't get suck into.

[247crypto]

So you're a russian who has got to the lengths of getting a eu resident permit at last and you brag about how good your mother russia is and how bad the eu is.

Why have you come to europe then?

Oh, that is the reason, why is impossible listen nothing true from Your part.
I'm european, look at Globe, where is Moscow.

Well, if You come to different place to live - You will change Your opinion about criminal thing and legal things?

You will declare, that Italian McDonalds is illegal to ask my name and mobile phone number to provide "free" Wi-Fi access?

you said you're a citizen of the EU , moscow is not not in the EU.
And unfortunately this is my last reply to you.

I can't talk to a person that can't speak or write so I can understand what he is saying.

Eat iodized salt.
I'm european, born in Moscow. And i'm resident of EU.
Where i write about, that i'm "citizen of EU"?

[niothor]

So you're a russian who has got to the lengths of getting a eu resident permit at last and you brag about how good your mother russia is and how bad the eu is.

Why have you come to europe then?

Oh, that is the reason, why is impossible listen nothing true from Your part.
I'm european, look at Globe, where is Moscow.

Well, if You come to different place to live - You will change Your opinion about criminal thing and legal things?

You will declare, that Italian McDonalds is illegal to ask my name and mobile phone number to provide "free" Wi-Fi access?

you said you're a citizen of the EU , moscow is not not in the EU.
And unfortunately this is my last reply to you.

I can't talk to a person that can't speak or write so I can understand what he is saying.

Eat iodized salt.
I'm european, born in Moscow. And i'm resident of EU.
Where i write about, that i'm "citizen of EU"?

So what does is say on your passport or id card.
Nationality :......
And you currently live in?

[Benjig]

This will never end, as now someone can "crack" the tor network, someone else is already getting up new brand better anonimous protocol

[247crypto]

So what does is say on your passport or id card.
Nationality :......
And you currently live in?

Are You a Romanian virus?
I live in Mediterranean isle.

[247crypto]

This will never end, as now someone can "crack" the tor network, someone else is already getting up new brand better anonimous protocol

Why US government sponsor so "anonimous" TOR?

[niothor]

So what does is say on your passport or id card.
Nationality :......
And you currently live in?

Are You a Romanian virus?
I live in Mediterranean isle.

I asked you because you would have to live in an eu country for 5 years to be a resident of the EU.
Yet you claim you were born in russia , and you have no eu citizenship.

In order to be a resident of the eu you would have to live currently in an eu member state which again points to the question
Why have you left your heaven on earth homeland mother russia?

I bet you as usually don't understand what you're talking about.
I ask nemo to translate it for you

PS.
By the way russia has the highest iodine deficiency in the world (4 times as big as romania) , also with the highest incidence of cretinism in newborns on the planet.

[247crypto]

A guy come to bitcointalk and posts only in threads about russia....
Politics & Society      1922
Off-topic      464
Beginners & Help      52
Alternate cryptocurrencies      15

out of his 400 posts most of them are in pictures from russia thread

Count Your posts about Russia, are You sure not be addicted by hate to Russian Federation?

[niothor]

A guy come to bitcointalk and posts only in threads about russia....
Politics & Society      1922
Off-topic      464
Beginners & Help      52
Alternate cryptocurrencies      15

out of his 400 posts most of them are in pictures from russia thread

Count Your posts about Russia, are You sure not be addicted by hate to Russian Federation?

If it weren't for hundreds of humanbots like you that invaded all the forums posting pro russian propaganda out of the blue I would have taken russia side in this the conflict.
The reason i don't like the US is because of it's manipulation but when i see the same from the other side and two times I have nothing to do that pray both the us and russia will end in a garbage dump and I'll be the one with a tractor running them flat.

[niothor]

I'll add this message from your friend pagan. It's by far more ontopic that your nonsense.

The "Safe Internet League" is more censorship

Will Russia Start Blocking Websites in Real Time?

With the RuNet already plagued by Roskomnadzor blacklists, blogger registration, and the blocking of Twitter accounts with no discernible justification, Russia now wants to introduce an automated real-time filtering system that will block websites that contain “harmful content.”

The proposed plan would add a second layer of censorship to Russia's already-pervasive website blacklist system, under which ISPs are required to block all websites containing “calls to riots, extremist activities, the incitement of ethnic and (or) sectarian hatred, terrorist activity, or participation in public events held in breach of appropriate procedures.”

According to an ITAR-TASS report, Russia would require ISPs to install “smart filters” that would screen and block “harmful content”, which would presumably be identified based on a pre-determined list of keywords. The “smart filtering” idea and its technical details have been proposed by the Safe Internet League, a Kremlin-loyal NGO partnering with several large Russian ISPs.

Safe Internet League executive director Denis Davydov explains that existing blacklists are not great at filtering out dangerous content, and says their system, once installed at the level of ISPs, could analyze web content in real time and easily block offensive pages:

    Translation
 We suggest introducing preemptive Internet filtering, which allows us to automatically determine the content of the page queried by the user in real time. The system evaluates the content on the page and determines the category which the information belongs to. In case the category is forbidden, the system blocks the webpage automatically.

The typically snarky personalities of the RuNet thought the League's new initiative would do nothing to create a safer online environment — instead, the added layer of algorithmic bureaucracy would only contribute to the existing limits already imposed on netizens in Russia, and would make the users work even harder to access their preferred content.

Photographer Anton Martynov mockingly suggested that Russia was succeeding in its bid to “solve the Internet”:

    Bo вcём миpe бьютcя и нe мoгyт peшить, a Лигa бeзoпacнoгo интepнeтa в Poccии нaшлa peшeниe: http://t.co/zXUV1FjkzW — ypa, cлaвa Poccии!!!

    — Anton Martynov (@podakuni) August 4, 2014

    The world over is struggling and can't figure this out, but the Safe Internet League in Russia has solved it: http://t.co/zXUV1FjkzW – hooray, glory to Russia!!!

Blogger Ilya Varlamov was incensed at the new filtering initiative:

    Лигa бeзoпacнoгo интepнeтa пpeдлaгaeт ввecти в Poccии пpeдфильтpaцию кoнтeнтa“ Уcпoкoйтe иx ктo-нибyдь, a?

    — Ilya Varlamov (@varlamov) August 4, 2014

    Safe Internet League proposes implementing pre-filtering of content in Russia. Somebody please calm them down, would you?

Internet entrepreneur Gaidar Magdanurov thought the Safe Internet League's efforts were entirely counterproductive:

    “Лигa Бeзoпacнoгo Интepнeтa” пpoдoлжaeт бopoтьcя c Интepнeтoм – http://t.co/tWOpMBLIGt

    — Gaidar Magdanurov (@gaidar) August 4, 2014

    “Safe Internet League” continues to fight the internet – http://t.co/tWOpMBLIGt.

Earlier this summer, Duma deputy Yelena Mizulina  had already proposed an automated Internet filtering system in an attempt to protect the minds of Russia’s youngsters. Mizulina demanded that the Internet service providers block “adult” Web content by default in an effort to create a “Clean Internet.” Consumers would be allowed to opt out of the filtration system, but only by making a special request to their ISP.

Davydov says developers at the Safe Internet League have already tested their two-step filtration model in Kostroma and Omsk regions, as well as the Komi Republic, and have found it works quite well (or so he says). Should the system go into broader use, it will generate a significant escalation of state attempts to control the Russian Internet. Users have found multiple ways of getting around blocks generated by blacklists, using VPNs and other circumvention tools to view their favorite blacklisted websites. If the “smart filtering” system is indeed implemented, one can only guess how quickly Russian netizens will learn to work around the new, ever-pervasive Internet controls.

https://globalvoicesonline.org/2014/08/08/will-russia-start-blocking-websites-in-real-time/

[247crypto]

I asked you because you would have to live in an eu country for 5 years to be a resident of the EU.
Yet you claim you were born in russia , and you have no eu citizenship.

In order to be a resident of the eu you would have to live currently in an eu member state which again points to the question
Why have you left your heaven on earth homeland mother russia?

I bet you as usually don't understand what you're talking about.
I ask nemo to translate it for you

PS.
By the way russia has the highest iodine deficiency in the world (4 times as big as romania) , also with the highest incidence of cretinism in newborns on the planet.

There are so many ways to become resident of EU. Why i need give my private information in public forum?
Romanian incidence is lower that in Northern Caucasus, is true. But iodized salt must eat You, not statistic data from Romania.

[247crypto]

I'll add this message from your friend pagan. It's by far more ontopic that your nonsense

In Italy is censored VK.com and mail.ru -what is Your problem?

The anonymous file sharing, from where i post images here is banned too in Italy. Many other sites are banned by italian postal police in Italy.

[niothor]

http://www.ibtimes.com/russian-internet-censorship-social-media-crackdown-make-it-easy-putin-stay-popular-1651078

Putin’s dismissal of the Internet as an ongoing CIA project was turned into a punchline in the West, but his attitude is a reflection of how countless Russians feel about the web. That paranoia only increased with the disclosures from National Security Agency whistleblower Edward Snowden last year.

The president signed a law last month forcing all online companies conducting business inside Russian borders to store six months’ worth of data at facilities located inside Russia. Starting in September 2016, if U.S.-based companies like Twitter, Google and Facebook want to operate on Russian soil, they must also be prepared to turn over data to Russian security services upon request, without a court ruling or any kind of justification.

And the us was the evil one.

Now to the funny part

“And we’re not talking about Russian user data, but rather all personal information of any user who happens to have some readers from Russia – like, say, Barack Obama, who has no less than 3,000 Russian nationals among the 40.5 million subscribers to his Facebook page,” Anton Nossik, the first-ever Russian blogger, wrote for the New Republic. “Twitter should also prepare to move all of Obama’s personal data to Russia and hand it over to the FSB, since both Putin and Medvedev are his followers on twitter. If any of these companies don’t comply they would be subject to administrative fines, up to 500,000 roubles [$14,000], and Russian ISPs would have to block access to these platforms.”

[Ivica]

In Italy is censored VK.com and mail.ru -what is Your problem?

Oh, that's actually great. The latter (company) is also famously known for installing backdoors like Mail Guard and such, so less malware the better.

[REDoctober]

Putin at war with the internet.. who is going to win?

I PREDICT, during round 3 of the bout PUTIN VS Tha INTERNET

Tha INTERNET will score a TKO on Putin, judges decision.


Putin will then wrestle a bear, and proceed to beat the living

CRAP out of it, during post-game festivities.

This is what will happen in my professional estimation.