Malaysia Airlines flight MH17 was shot down by an air-to-air missile

[doggieTattoo]

I have long suspected this. Also, the media has suddenly gone silent over the MH17 incident. Earlier also, there were indications such as these:

1. No missile plumes
2. Bullet holes on the wreckage
3. US not releasing the satellite data.

US can solve all the trouble with the data release. Or maybe hiding it because what happened would land everybody in a bugger trouble.

[bryant.coleman]

US can solve all the trouble with the data release. Or maybe hiding it because what happened would land everybody in a bugger trouble.

It would not land everyone in trouble. But it will definitely create issues for the United States. The MH17 was shot down by an air-to-air missile, which was probably given to the junta forces by the Americans or their allies. The Americans will be forced to give compensation to the victims, if the truth comes out. So for them, it will be better if they hide the data.

[Nemo1024]

Just in. At the press conference in St.Petersburg Putin answered a question about MH-17 investigation. He said that we should wait for the official report from the Dutch investigation committee. He also referred to an unofficial report, which he got presented and which concludes that the airliner may have been shot by a rocket, launched from the direction of Ukraine-controlled territory. According to that report, the trajectory of the rocket went through the tail part of the plane.

http://tass.ru/proisshestviya/2059874

Also, and undisclosed informant seems to have turned up, laying claim to the £30 million bounty, placed by Germany for information on the shoot-down:
http://russian.rt.com/article/98528

[aikunsatu]

The world's starting to sound the a movie

[Nemo1024]

Independent British journalist Graham Philips, despite the intimidations from his government, continues to report from Donbass.

His latest reports are from the MH-17 crash site and interviews with locals, who witnessed jet fighters before the explosion.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q-O0LdA2uJ8

According to one report, there were two fighters, one flying from the direction of Saur Mogila (a strategic hight and a memorial from WWII, which Ukro Nazis completely bombed out), while the other climbing just before the airliner exploded:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qBIOAKpgT0c

[freemind1]

Not surprise me that soon began another stupid war...

[Nemo1024]

Russian Prosecutor General's office published a report, which says that MH-17 was shot down by and air-to-air missile of a non-Russian make. They also say that they know the make of that rocket:
http://tass.ru/politika/2122685

While CNN published a partial "official" report, which it obtained through its channels (read: was given to publish by the CIA), where the plane was shot down from the ground from the resistance-controlled territory:
http://lenta.ru/news/2015/07/15/boeing1/

By that theory of CNN's falls apart already, as DNR say they didn't have control over Grabovo back then, when the the rocket was allegedly launched from there:
http://www.gazeta.ru/social/news/2015/07/15/n_7379761.shtml

[chopstick]

A year ago today Malaysia flight MH17 was shot down in a false flag operation to blame Russia and the Pro-Russian separatists. RIP to the victims.

[Nemo1024]

Today marks 1 year since MH-17 shoot down. The West continues to play dumb, trying mightily to stall investigation and erase the event from people's memory.

Prosecutor General's Office of DNR marked the day by publishing documents, related to the investigation. Most of the documents comprise protocols/transcripts of witness questioning:
http://www.gazeta.ru/social/news/2015/07/17/n_7386105.shtml
One citizen reported about sounds, similar to shots shortly before the disaster. Another mentions sound of a jet engine right after the liner fell. Almost all witness testimonials coincide, indicating presence of another airplane in the vicinity.

[Nemo1024]

MH17: A Year Without the Truth

Dutch Security council watched with great interest the Russian documentary "MH17: A Year Without the Truth" and contacted RT asking to help them get details on and assist with transfer of the cockpit cabin fragments, shown in the film:
http://russian.rt.com/article/106937

The film itself can be watched here:
Russian: http://doc.rt.com/filmy/mh17-god-molchaniya/
English: http://rtd.rt.com/films/mh17-a-year-without-the-truth/#part-1

[Nemo1024]

Russian experts requested access to materials pertaining investigation of the shoot-down of Boeing in Ukraine, but were denied it. Ukrainian military flight controller records are also being kept classified.

http://www.gazeta.ru/social/news/2015/09/03/n_7548707.shtml

[PaoloSerBit]

Russian experts requested access to materials pertaining investigation of the shoot-down of Boeing in Ukraine, but were denied it.

That would put the Ukrainians as the main suspected. But why would the do it? Could it be some kind of mistake?

[Nemo1024]

Russian experts requested access to materials pertaining investigation of the shoot-down of Boeing in Ukraine, but were denied it.

That would put the Ukrainians as the main suspected. But why would the do it? Could it be some kind of mistake?

Well, actually, it's the Dutch, who did the denying.

As for Ukraine, they are still to release the ATC communication - both civilian and military. The civilian ones were seized by SBU right after the shoot-down and are kept classified too.

Why would they do it? For that you need to understand one simple thing - Ukraine is an occupied state, controlled from across the ocean. Ukraine stopped doing what is good for Ukraine a long time ago. That shoot-down was not mistake - it was a premeditated false flag to sick the world onto Russia and to discredit the freedom fighters of Novorossia. But this false flag didn't go entirely as planned, so tracks need to be covered by the perpetrators.

[bryant.coleman]

Almost one and a half years have passed since the shooting down of the MH17. And till now, it is not clear who was behind this incident. The Russians will blame the Ukrainians, and the Ukrainians will blame the Russians. This is going to go on for ever. Feels bad for the victims. But a few questions remains to be answered:

1. Why was permission given to the MH17 to use the airspace over Donbass, when it was clear that the rebels were shooting down Ukrainian Air Force jets using modern surface-to-air systems?

2. Why the Americans are not releasing the satellite data?

3. If the Buk system was transported from Russia (as claimed by Ukraine), then why the evidence is not being given to support this? Buk systems are very heavy, and it is almost impossible to hide them.

[operrajunk74]

My guess is that it was thought to be a military aircraft, and was shot down by mistake. Another case of the "Fog of War". Russia and the Russian separatists had absolutely nothing to gain by shooting down an airliner full of foreign nationals.

[butdabass]

somebody can give me the picture? i really want to know the truth.

[Nemo1024]

somebody can give me the picture? i really want to know the truth.

MH17 Lies and Inconsistencies Exposed – Excellent Analysis by a French Citizen
https://futuristrendcast.wordpress.com/2015/09/16/mh17-lies-and-inconsistencies-exposed-excellent-analysis/

The fallacy of the official Western party line is obvious even to a layman, albeit a sharp one. Listen to an excellent analysis of the MH17 tragedy and lies surrounding it by a concerned French citizen Thierry Andre Laurent-Pellet. He conducted his own investigation, covering pretty much all incongruities and lies in the official pre-reports and the investigation in general.

Thierry Andre Laurent-Pellet analyses a pre-report, and asks some very important questions that don't get answered in the report, in the following video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8hhmi-f-UbE

Also this:
https://futuristrendcast.wordpress.com/2014/12/29/ukraines-snowden-whistleblower-confirms-mh17-was-shot-down-by-ukraine/

[operrajunk74]

I think that it was thought to be a military aircraft, and was shot down by mistake. Another case of the "Fog of War". Russia and the Russian separatists had absolutely nothing to gain by shooting down an airliner full of foreign nationals.

[Souldream]

somebody can give me the picture? i really want to know the truth.

MH17 Lies and Inconsistencies Exposed – Excellent Analysis by a French Citizen
https://futuristrendcast.wordpress.com/2015/09/16/mh17-lies-and-inconsistencies-exposed-excellent-analysis/

The fallacy of the official Western party line is obvious even to a layman, albeit a sharp one. Listen to an excellent analysis of the MH17 tragedy and lies surrounding it by a concerned French citizen Thierry Andre Laurent-Pellet. He conducted his own investigation, covering pretty much all incongruities and lies in the official pre-reports and the investigation in general.

Thierry Andre Laurent-Pellet analyses a pre-report, and asks some very important questions that don't get answered in the report, in the following video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8hhmi-f-UbE

Also this:
https://futuristrendcast.wordpress.com/2014/12/29/ukraines-snowden-whistleblower-confirms-mh17-was-shot-down-by-ukraine/

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[Xenoph0bia]

I don't think so, if the plane was shot by an air-to-air missile, there would be no large number of high-energy objects that penetrated the aircraft from outside, since these missiles are self-guided and would target a plane's engines. And in this case the plane wouldn't break up in the air instantaneously, meaning that the crew would be alive for some time.