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[Asianconnect]

This information was truly helpful specially to those who is new to bitcoin community. Thanks for the heads up

[Bitcoins101]

I do wish the OP had called the police on the "buyer" just for laughs. Ask to file a report, fake being all concerned etc. Get the feds involved to investigate for added yucks. 

I totally agree and this is exactly what I would do in that situation. However, it may be more trouble than it's worth. Creating enemies in law enforcement is never a good idea.

[herebittybittybitty]

Even *if* he was not LE, and actually *was* trying to sell me drugs...I still wouldn't tell on him.

The fun in it was reporting the LE on itself.

[TheButterZone]

I do wish the OP had called the police on the "buyer" just for laughs. Ask to file a report, fake being all concerned etc. Get the feds involved to investigate for added yucks.

I wouldn't ever do that.

I am not my brothers keeper.

Even *if* he was not LE, and actually *was* trying to sell me drugs...I still wouldn't tell on him.

My hatred for the tyranny of our draconian legal system trumps all.

Remember, the first offer was for contracted crimes of violence.

[MrPiggles]

You should have turned the tables on him and told him you know someone looking for a hitman.

Then when he says he can do that, call the cops for conspiracy to murder.

[forsakenpnut]

You sir is a smart dude and I thank you for letting us know about this!

[TheButterZone]

You should have turned the tables on him and told him you know someone looking for a hitman.

Then when he says he can do that, call the cops for conspiracy to murder.

By saying that, you'd be part of the conspiracy.

[MrPiggles]

You should have turned the tables on him and told him you know someone looking for a hitman.

Then when he says he can do that, call the cops for conspiracy to murder.

By saying that, you'd be part of the conspiracy.

Actually you wouldn't, saying you know someone isn't illegal. How do you think they set people up in those fake hitman stings?

The person who says "yeah I might know a guy" then rings the police doesn't get arrested.

[TheButterZone]

You should have turned the tables on him and told him you know someone looking for a hitman.

Then when he says he can do that, call the cops for conspiracy to murder.

By saying that, you'd be part of the conspiracy.

Actually you wouldn't, saying you know someone isn't illegal. How do you think they set people up in those fake hitman stings?

The person who says "yeah I might know a guy" then rings the police doesn't get arrested.

Once you say "yeah I might know a guy" to the entrapping police officer, you've provided probable cause to arrest for conspiracy to commit murder and prima facie evidence for prosecution, despite your actual intent. Just about every conspiracy defendant claims "but I was just trying to be a good Samaritan!" and they fail.

The only things you should say to entrapping police should be: "I'll discuss it with my lawyers, {the name of the District Attorney} and {a well-known defense attorney}. We'll be in touch, bye."

[Fray]

You should have turned the tables on him and told him you know someone looking for a hitman.

Then when he says he can do that, call the cops for conspiracy to murder.

This would probably be the worse thing you could have said. The OP was likely dealing with some kind of law enforcement officer trying to get the OP to commit a crime. If the OP were to solicit a much more serious crime then he would likely be arrested instantly.

If the OP had gone though with the trade and the other person was a law enforcement officer then he would probably be fine if he did it just that once, but would be at much greater risk of arrest/charges if he did it multiple times without reporting what he said to anyone.

[MrPiggles]

Once you say "yeah I might know a guy" to the entrapping police officer, you've provided probable cause to arrest for conspiracy to commit murder and prima facie evidence for prosecution, despite your actual intent. Just about every conspiracy defendant claims "but I was just trying to be a good Samaritan!" and they fail.

The only things you should say to entrapping police should be: "I'll discuss it with my lawyers, {the name of the District Attorney} and {a well-known defense attorney}. We'll be in touch, bye."

No, if you said "I know a guy who might be interested" and then promptly called the police/FBI (a different LE agency than this guy worked for obviously) then you could not be prosecuted. You haven't done anything illegal under a conspiracy law because you haven't agreed to a specific act.

[TheButterZone]

Once you say "yeah I might know a guy" to the entrapping police officer, you've provided probable cause to arrest for conspiracy to commit murder and prima facie evidence for prosecution, despite your actual intent. Just about every conspiracy defendant claims "but I was just trying to be a good Samaritan!" and they fail.

The only things you should say to entrapping police should be: "I'll discuss it with my lawyers, {the name of the District Attorney} and {a well-known defense attorney}. We'll be in touch, bye."

No, if you said "I know a guy who might be interested" and then promptly called the police/FBI (a different LE agency than this guy worked for obviously) then you could not be prosecuted. You haven't done anything illegal under a conspiracy law because you haven't agreed to a specific act.

How the FUCK could you promptly call the police WHEN YOU ARE IMMEDIATELY PLACED IN HANDCUFFS!? Do you have a cellphone in your brain?

[MrPiggles]

Once you say "yeah I might know a guy" to the entrapping police officer, you've provided probable cause to arrest for conspiracy to commit murder and prima facie evidence for prosecution, despite your actual intent. Just about every conspiracy defendant claims "but I was just trying to be a good Samaritan!" and they fail.

The only things you should say to entrapping police should be: "I'll discuss it with my lawyers, {the name of the District Attorney} and {a well-known defense attorney}. We'll be in touch, bye."

No, if you said "I know a guy who might be interested" and then promptly called the police/FBI (a different LE agency than this guy worked for obviously) then you could not be prosecuted. You haven't done anything illegal under a conspiracy law because you haven't agreed to a specific act.

How the FUCK could you promptly call the police WHEN YOU ARE IMMEDIATELY PLACED IN HANDCUFFS!? Do you have a cellphone in your brain?

Never mind, from your first post I thought you knew what conspiracy laws meant.

[TheButterZone]

Once you say "yeah I might know a guy" to the entrapping police officer, you've provided probable cause to arrest for conspiracy to commit murder and prima facie evidence for prosecution, despite your actual intent. Just about every conspiracy defendant claims "but I was just trying to be a good Samaritan!" and they fail.

The only things you should say to entrapping police should be: "I'll discuss it with my lawyers, {the name of the District Attorney} and {a well-known defense attorney}. We'll be in touch, bye."

No, if you said "I know a guy who might be interested" and then promptly called the police/FBI (a different LE agency than this guy worked for obviously) then you could not be prosecuted. You haven't done anything illegal under a conspiracy law because you haven't agreed to a specific act.

How the FUCK could you promptly call the police WHEN YOU ARE IMMEDIATELY PLACED IN HANDCUFFS!? Do you have a cellphone in your brain?

Never mind, from your first post I thought you knew what conspiracy laws meant.

Then you would have replied differently.

[BitCoinPokerBro]

This guy could vary well have just been a sketchy yet very open drug dealer

[MrPiggles]

Once you say "yeah I might know a guy" to the entrapping police officer, you've provided probable cause to arrest for conspiracy to commit murder and prima facie evidence for prosecution, despite your actual intent. Just about every conspiracy defendant claims "but I was just trying to be a good Samaritan!" and they fail.

The only things you should say to entrapping police should be: "I'll discuss it with my lawyers, {the name of the District Attorney} and {a well-known defense attorney}. We'll be in touch, bye."

No, if you said "I know a guy who might be interested" and then promptly called the police/FBI (a different LE agency than this guy worked for obviously) then you could not be prosecuted. You haven't done anything illegal under a conspiracy law because you haven't agreed to a specific act.

How the FUCK could you promptly call the police WHEN YOU ARE IMMEDIATELY PLACED IN HANDCUFFS!? Do you have a cellphone in your brain?

Never mind, from your first post I thought you knew what conspiracy laws meant.

Then you would have replied differently.

You clearly don't understand conspiracy laws. A vague "I might know a guy" is not conspiracy, you need to commit to a specific act. So you say you know a guy and take their phone number, the police are dancing with glee over the fact they're gonna set you up in a proper conspiracy and then you introduce them to an FBI agent and laugh your ass off at the ensuing mess.

You cannot be charged with conspiracy unless you commit to a SPECIFIC act.

Examples of times you can be charged with conspiracy
"I want you to kill MrPiggles"
"I need a hitman to kill MrPiggles"
"I want to import 10 kilos of cocaine on this flight like so.."

Not conspiracy
"I might know a guy can I have your phone number"
"I'd like to be a rich cocaine dealer"
"I wish that guy was dead"


Simple enough for you? Conspiracy laws aren't that complicated.

[TheButterZone]

As if government is absolutely constrained by laws. Jesus... /brickwall

[MrPiggles]

As if government is absolutely constrained by laws. Jesus... /brickwall

You're right, they'd arrest you before you'd legally committed conspiracy, and then any prosecutor would simply throw it out right away whilst your lawyer laughed at the charges.

Police know conspiracy laws better than you do, they wouldn't blow their wad too soon.

[TheButterZone]

As if government is absolutely constrained by laws. Jesus... /brickwall

You're right, they'd arrest you before you'd legally committed conspiracy, and then any prosecutor would simply throw it out right away whilst your lawyer laughed at the charges.

Police know conspiracy laws better than you do, they wouldn't blow their wad too soon.

There are effectively no real punitive consequences for judicial misconduct, malicious prosecution, and false arrest.

Go elsewhere to trick people ignorant of that fact into self-incrimination.

Oink.

[MrPiggles]

As if government is absolutely constrained by laws. Jesus... /brickwall

You're right, they'd arrest you before you'd legally committed conspiracy, and then any prosecutor would simply throw it out right away whilst your lawyer laughed at the charges.

Police know conspiracy laws better than you do, they wouldn't blow their wad too soon.

There are effectively no real punitive consequences for judicial misconduct, malicious prosecution, and false arrest.

Go elsewhere to trick people ignorant of that fact into self-incrimination.

Oink.

You're a fuckin retard