Crypto Conspiracy?

[Spoetnik]

remember what happened with Poloniex and Supercoin ?
Make sure you give them enough rope, and time, before tugging on it hard LOL

I respect you on this forum Spoetnik, but Busoni called shenanigans because of MAX_MONEY which was clearly a massive fail from his side. If there was anything fishy he found after, he would have bragged about it already to restore his reputation.

@SuperCoin
the dev after the drama said he had planned massive change that used that code variable.. believe him ? i don't lol
it's plausible that was a multi-step plan to mod the code.. simple as that.

people kept saying that because that was not *enough to scam *yet ..then that proves it wasn't a scam at all guaranteed !
(it was a common code edit for doing scams)
now tell me use your common sense guys does that sound logical in the slightest ?

and by the way you guys are mighty trusting considering there is about a 1,000 clone / scam coins and a million confirmed scams
and they are all being made by the same handful of hiding anon guys from a pool of 340,000 shell accounts.. look around you and open your eyes !

i based my opinion on one year of experience exposing these scammers myself and my own decade + of c/c++ coding experience
and i went and looked at the source code with my own eyes and found the line number Max_Money was on.. unlike 90% of the cheerleaders defending Supercoin (bag holders)
and you wanna know what coin was used as the basis for this clone coin SuperCoin ? HonorCoin LOL
a confirmed scam ! ..i couldn't even get the Honor coin code the Github was taken down etc and topics locked and a community take over etc.

hey the Supercoin dev posted the max money variable and it did not match what he said on the ANN topic originally.. he was caught not telling the truth

like how much circumstantial evidence do you guys need before you wake up ?
or is that bag too heavy ?

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[digitalindustry]

can you highlight the important points? we've got crypto to chase on here !

Russians.

Hackers.

Scammers.

Mobsters.

Tons and tons of alts.

I think that sums it up.  There's seriously no way to know which ones are theirs especially now that they know we know.

looks like business as usual.

i wouldn't blame one group personally.

if you are a tard you will get scammed, lesson;

don't be a retard?

[Lauda]

looks like business as usual.

i wouldn't blame one group personally.

if you are a tard you will get scammed, lesson;

don't be a retard?

Well the market is becoming saturated with coins which is ruining it for the other ones.
I don't really care that much about the people who invest in a scamcoin, they got warned in time anyways.

[SolomonRising]

I'm seeing experienced traders get scammed.  Not just "tards" so let's get real here.  These scams are getting more sophisticated everyday.  Like stellar for example. Lol.   

[marseille]

lol, the same scamcoin dev made so many scamcoins...

[Spoetnik]

one of the first things i learned in this Altcoin stuff is i wound up in a tough position between
these people doing this type of shit the OP mentioned and their supporters.
and i had to learn to try and be a bit tolerant and get along.. and yeah i know that might sound crazy.
but bear with me lol

these guys are apart of our community and we need to try and convince them they can make money in a legit way.
and also that supporting the right coins is good for them long term and will make them more too.
some people portray me as a monster that goes after everyone like a blood thirsty lunatic hell bent on killing all clones etc
but that is Troll bullshit trying to make me look bad.

after i last posted here i was thinking i know a lot of these guys who make coins and i have been given a lot of info about what they are up to before
and i basically keep my mouth shut about it all.. rather than stabbing them in the back !
why ?
they want to make money.
i get that ..me too !
but i hope to convince them all doing it in a *better way is smartest AND most profitable short term and long term combined !
i try hard to generalize my anti-coin talk too and not harp on just one coin (unless say Carbon coin guys decided to come after me or..) LOL
and even then i try and avoid personal attacks of any kind.

for a long time they didn't want work for their profits and it was too easy.. most guys in crypto supported ANY coin no matter how bad
because they all told me over and over that they can make some BTC off them..
and i knew damn well that i can't stop em or convince them other wise but i should keep trying anyway.
i also knew what the result would be.. the scene dying off hard ..people leaving and pricing dropping, totally unavoidable i thought all along !
and i was right too that is what played out and is only going to get worse..

problem is people can come to bitcointalk and basically LIE for money.. so they do.
if i can lie and make money of course a shitload of people are going to do it.. probably the easiest way to make money on planet earth LOL

And that includes a huge chunk of the regulars here that have all along jumped on less and less coins over time bag holding them
and knowing they are bad but supporting them and trolling on people who criticize them to defend their bags their holding. (INCLUDING POOLS and exchanges)

so then we have to ask what is a clone / scam coin ?
and i would say simply it's an unneeded coin and that is one made simply for trading with a pump and dump.
just because a coin may have new integrated chat or something on it does not mean its pretty much a clone and useless
and it was only made to hype up and dump.. its the evolution of the scam game.
they know a PURE clone will get them the wrath of the public so they KNOW fucking damn well they have to cook up a scheme (gimmick features etc)
both sides evolve and get smarter at this shit..

so it comes down to what do you consider a clone / crap / scam coin ?

[digitalindustry]

I'm seeing experienced traders get scammed.  Not just "tards" so let's get real here.  These scams are getting more sophisticated everyday.  Like stellar for example. Lol.   

: D - well that hardly qualifies as a "sophisticated" scam... does it?

I know for a fact that some people took NXT seriously they probably feel a little silly now.

[Jiggy0001]

I'm seeing experienced traders get scammed.  Not just "tards" so let's get real here.  These scams are getting more sophisticated everyday.  Like stellar for example. Lol.   

: D - well that hardly qualifies as a "sophisticated" scam... does it?

I know for a fact that some people took NXT seriously they probably feel a little silly now.

You say nxt is a scam? Being traded on an exchange in Denmark against USD?

Sorry, I am just naturally curious

[Lauda]

: D - well that hardly qualifies as a "sophisticated" scam... does it?

I know for a fact that some people took NXT seriously they probably feel a little silly now.

You say nxt is a scam? Being traded on an exchange in Denmark against USD?

Sorry, I am just naturally curious

There are many coins being traded for USD on other exchanges, there are even a few on Cryptsy.
Your point?

[Spoetnik]

Did you say CRYPTSY ?

conspiracy !

who do you think put Goats on the Moon ?

..Cryptsy

[nsimmons]

add thereom coin to the list, they have wised up a bit and used fresh ip's but still used enom, digital ocean and even the same style for dev posts, bold centered letters.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=731983.0

[luckydag]

some ppl just hate pos coin, It's hard to tell which one decent or evil.

to my understanding, Poloniex funded by Russians, not cryptsy.
and XMR , DRK is most dishonest coin which already made huge success

[nsimmons]

some ppl just hate pos coin, It's hard to tell which one decent or evil.

to my understanding, Poloniex funded by Russians, not cryptsy.
and XMR , DRK is most dishonest coin which already made huge success

Spend 20 minutes and google all the seed node ips for these shit coins, they are all the same.

[iamphoenix]

good thread

[MasterMined710]

can somebody post an update as to what was found and maybe a few sentences as to what we are seeing in this post. thanks

[SolomonRising]

can somebody post an update as to what was found and maybe a few sentences as to what we are seeing in this post. thanks

I'd like a summarization as well.  Didn't post this past week and I'd appreciate a quick breakdown.  Thanks!

[BitJohn]

hmm a couple staff at Cryptsy are Russians (Bitjohn and Mullick i am pretty sure) and they are good buddies with BTC-e staff who pump shit coins..

hmmmm conspiracy ? yup 

lol where do you come up with this shit. We have zero Russians.

[ProGamer]

His reminds me of this guy here: http://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/28it5y/cryptsy_corruption_and_aiding_of_specific_pumpers/

People thought this guy/girl was crazy/stupid but he/she may have just discovered the tip of the iceberg!

[defaced]

Its pretty known that there are a few people pushing out and supporting the shittiest of the shitty to saturate and discredit the alt world and to fill their pockets in the process.

Some questions..

Where is the money coming and going?
Who has the most to gain and lose?

Anon is nice and all but being anon also brings out the bad apples in every group. When there is no accountability for your actions one might be easily pursued into doing evil.