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August 11, 2014, 07:03:07 PM
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If Muslim wanted to kill Jews they would have done so centuries before when they were the strongest, but in fact they did the opposite, Jews were well threated in Muslim countries, heck when Islam was tossed out of what's we know now as Spain, Jews followed muslims to north African countries because they feared for them selfs.

Muslims started to hate the Jews only after the creation of Israel. Before that, the Jews were among the privileged citizens in the Islamic nations. For example, in Turkey the Jews enjoyed almost all the privileges which were granted to the Muslims, while the Christians (mostly Assyrians, Greeks and Armenians) were treated with extreme brutality.
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August 11, 2014, 08:36:31 PM
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If Muslim wanted to kill Jews they would have done so centuries before when they were the strongest, but in fact they did the opposite, Jews were well threated in Muslim countries, heck when Islam was tossed out of what's we know now as Spain, Jews followed muslims to north African countries because they feared for them selfs.

Muslims started to hate the Jews only after the creation of Israel. Before that, the Jews were among the privileged citizens in the Islamic nations. For example, in Turkey the Jews enjoyed almost all the privileges which were granted to the Muslims, while the Christians (mostly Assyrians, Greeks and Armenians) were treated with extreme brutality.

Even Christians were well treated in general, but in conflict area there were of course problems, wars never ceased in the Spain-Morocco area on the west and on the east it was mainly in the frontier of Turkey especially during the Ottoman empire , but Christians were fine in middle east countries such Iraq (hence there are Christian population there right now, Syria, Lebanon, Palestine...ect
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August 12, 2014, 11:57:59 AM
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I don't think people understand the situation.. These are not wild animals they are people...  Dispite what the media tells you "terrorits" are human beings.  The "terrorits" keep growing every time we attack them.. why does this happen?  Well when someone comes and bombs you're house killing everyone but you and your 12... guess what you just decided to join..
Fighting a "war on terror" will only bring more death to everyone.  Humans are humans annihilate their family and expect them to be in a serious rage.

There is nothing human about this. Humans are being SOLD and children are being murdered by these animals. There is no justification for that.  

I think you've missed his point, what he is saying is trying to kill them all wouldn't solve the problem and in fact will create more fanatics and psychopath like these, as you are bound to hurt innocents aswell and those innocent people becomes an easy prey and recruit, the thing is, there need to be a real strategy to deal with this problem, the short strategy is limited intervention to stop the massacre and push ISIS back, in medium term you need to strengthens the local authorities, but problems will always remain when you have a government that is prosecuting a part of the population, this need to be fixed , and in the long term is to be to built solid institutions and have a strong educational plan, including programs for religion tolerances.

You make some valid points, but his point was sympathizing with these animals.

I am not sure I advocate US or Nato action of any kind there, but at the same time we created the problem by leaving a power vacuum that these savages are taking advantage of. In the end I think the Iraqi people are the only ones that can resolve this.

So if I another country bomberd your city, killed your entire family you'd be some animal for attacking them back?

You know WE started the idea of concentration camps.. the germans stole it from us...  Humans are being sold in your own country and you don't care..

Concentration camps existed long before the Crusades.  The idea of rounding up foreigners has been around since the time of early man.

If another country bombed my city, killed my family and I decided to behead some innocent kids in retaliation then yes I would be an animal.  Whether or not you're for capitol punishment there can be a logical explanation for wanting to exact retribution on your attacker - it's called vengeance.  Blindly attacking anything that's not like you - that's homicidal rage - like rabies in a dog.
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August 12, 2014, 04:43:52 PM
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I don't think people understand the situation.. These are not wild animals they are people...  Dispite what the media tells you "terrorits" are human beings.  The "terrorits" keep growing every time we attack them.. why does this happen?  Well when someone comes and bombs you're house killing everyone but you and your 12... guess what you just decided to join..
Fighting a "war on terror" will only bring more death to everyone.  Humans are humans annihilate their family and expect them to be in a serious rage.

There is nothing human about this. Humans are being SOLD and children are being murdered by these animals. There is no justification for that.  

I think you've missed his point, what he is saying is trying to kill them all wouldn't solve the problem and in fact will create more fanatics and psychopath like these, as you are bound to hurt innocents aswell and those innocent people becomes an easy prey and recruit, the thing is, there need to be a real strategy to deal with this problem, the short strategy is limited intervention to stop the massacre and push ISIS back, in medium term you need to strengthens the local authorities, but problems will always remain when you have a government that is prosecuting a part of the population, this need to be fixed , and in the long term is to be to built solid institutions and have a strong educational plan, including programs for religion tolerances.

You make some valid points, but his point was sympathizing with these animals.

I am not sure I advocate US or Nato action of any kind there, but at the same time we created the problem by leaving a power vacuum that these savages are taking advantage of. In the end I think the Iraqi people are the only ones that can resolve this.

So if I another country bomberd your city, killed your entire family you'd be some animal for attacking them back?

You know WE started the idea of concentration camps.. the germans stole it from us...  Humans are being sold in your own country and you don't care..

I am not sure what your rant has to do with the topic at hand. Sure I would defend my family and quite viciously. This situation is not what is happening in Iraq and it is the height of intellectual dishonesty to insinuate that it is.

Not sure what you are trying to accomplish in your second point. 

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