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August 14, 2014, 02:33:22 PM
Last edit: August 22, 2014, 10:24:20 PM by iWin
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I was sent BTC with no transaction fee. Will I get it?




https://blockchain.info/tx/758994d6f14244979de7874c0b33bd9f21b10c6d51cf225f9d349bb69afe8c66
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August 14, 2014, 02:34:30 PM
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Yeah get it everytime I make a new address or make a change, so definitely legit.
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August 14, 2014, 02:36:26 PM
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You can disable how many times they send you an email by unchecking the box "send a wallet backup after changes are made" i think in the settings/preferences.
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August 14, 2014, 02:40:47 PM
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Yeah I disabled that a long time ago because it just flooded my inbox.
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August 14, 2014, 03:24:44 PM
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Oh okay. I just wanted to make sure it wasn't some phishing spam.
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August 14, 2014, 03:51:02 PM
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Did you fully check the address it came from? It's weird, I get text notifications on one account which I set up and on another I set up email notifications but I never actually get them. I don't know why.

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August 14, 2014, 04:19:59 PM
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Have a couple new questions.

I have a couple questions about this. How long will it take to confirm if I send a payment without the .0001 miner's fee? Also, I have this message when I try to send BTC



My transactions are confirmed so why does it still give me that? Thanks in advance for the answers.
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August 14, 2014, 04:24:36 PM
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Have a couple new questions.

I have a couple questions about this. How long will it take to confirm if I send a payment without the .0001 miner's fee?
It really depends on a number of things. If you are spending a small number of inputs (you received a small number of TXs into your address) and the amount you are sending is over .01 then it should be relatively quick. If you are sending a smaller amount or the amount you are sending is coming from a larger amount of inputs (you received many TXs to spend your funds) then it could take several hours if it ever confirms at all. Most pools do not give priority to TXs without a TX fee, but throughout the day the number of unconfirmed TXs will vary and if there is room on the block and few other unconfirmed TXs then your 0 fee Tx will get confirmed.

 
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August 14, 2014, 04:26:12 PM
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Have a couple new questions.

I have a couple questions about this. How long will it take to confirm if I send a payment without the .0001 miner's fee?

It's impossible to predict.  It might confirm in the next block, it might take a few hours or a few days, or it might never confirm.  It will depend on many factors including but not limited to:

  • How many inputs in your transaction
  • How many outputs in your transaction
  • The value of the smallest output in your transaction
  • The value of each of the inputs in your transaction
  • The age of each of the inputs in your transaction
  • Luck

Also, I have this message when I try to send BTC

My transactions are confirmed so why does it still give me that? Thanks in advance for the answers.

Are some of your bitcoins from mining?  If so, then newly generated bitcoins from mining need 100 confirmations before they can be spent.
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August 14, 2014, 04:28:02 PM
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Wait, it might never confirm? That sounds a little risky haha. And no, the BTC was sent to me from someone else so it shouldn't need the 100 confirmations before becoming available.
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August 14, 2014, 04:30:20 PM
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Wait, it might never confirm?

Yes.

That sounds a little risky haha.

Correct.

And no, the BTC was sent to me from someone else so it shouldn't need the 100 confirmations before becoming available.

Then I'd need more information to be able to tell you what your problem is.

At a minimum, I'd need to know what bitcoin addresses you are using to receive bitcoins to your wallet.  It would also help to know how much you are trying to send.
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August 14, 2014, 04:34:48 PM
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Here's my wallet: 1NbvDfshGTrkoSdDAFfSAeFuRbytnLS3NQ

That's for the replies btw Smiley
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August 14, 2014, 04:40:20 PM
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My transactions are confirmed
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Here's my wallet: 1NbvDfshGTrkoSdDAFfSAeFuRbytnLS3NQ
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You are mistaken.

The following 4 transactions to your wallet are not yet confirmed as of the writing of this post:

https://blockchain.info/tx/6cbc076791f2e6a8468c7e7068cfc1332a77dfc3636c8a1d4327c0e7a5ae6562
https://blockchain.info/tx/ea5e62a05e2a6ccb1f12486daf23ab5d189b142963cdb64381e65a2754d372be
https://blockchain.info/tx/ffb63e9fd821186f0d8befcf4d3e05cbbed3958bd6a3cfd606972b4eadc5efb7
https://blockchain.info/tx/0fbd40bf77c2e3ce1c88d509c2cf632c184c0707f2a676cbe2fa3edda7ae4280

Furthermore, the following transaction sent FROM your wallet has not yet confirmed:
https://blockchain.info/tx/2e06be59707d958ea094b420a4e2426a0eb179ddb462581067da855e92cca455

Note:  All 5 of these transactions included 0 transaction fee, so they may take a very long time to confirm (if ever).

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August 14, 2014, 04:42:37 PM
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I have quaestion to,
How to send my btc on my blockchain to my account in Bank  Smiley
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August 14, 2014, 04:43:32 PM
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Note:  All 5 of these transactions included 0 transaction fee, so they may take a very long time to confirm (if ever).


Those were just micro transactions totaling less than $5. Do all those have to confirm before my full balance can be used?
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August 14, 2014, 04:47:16 PM
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Those were just micro transactions totaling less than $5. Do all those have to confirm before my full balance can be used?

Yes.  Those 5 transactions used up all of your confirmed unspent outputs.

Until those transactions confirm, you don't have any confirmed unspent outputs remaining.
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August 14, 2014, 04:48:02 PM
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Those were just micro transactions totaling less than $5. Do all those have to confirm before my full balance can be used?

Yes.  Those 5 transactions used up all of your confirmed unspent outputs.

Until those transactions confirm, you don't have any confirmed unspent outputs remaining.


Ouch...

And if they never confirm, my balance is stuck in my wallet forever?
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August 14, 2014, 04:48:15 PM
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I have quaestion to,
How to send my btc on my blockchain to my account in Bank  Smiley

Your bank accepts bitcoin deposits?

What bank do you use?  I'm not aware of any banks in the world that accept bitcoin deposits yet.
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August 14, 2014, 04:52:03 PM
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I have quaestion to,
How to send my btc on my blockchain to my account in Bank  Smiley
Yeah I don't think any bank accepts BTC deposits. You're going to have to sell it to people on here.
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August 14, 2014, 04:54:50 PM
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Those were just micro transactions totaling less than $5. Do all those have to confirm before my full balance can be used?

Yes.  Those 5 transactions used up all of your confirmed unspent outputs.

Until those transactions confirm, you don't have any confirmed unspent outputs remaining.


Ouch...

And if they never confirm, my balance is stuck in my wallet forever?

Probably not.

The blockchain.info wallet will wait a few days for the transactions to confirm.  If they don't confirm after a few days, blockchain.info will stop broadcasting the transactions.  As long as nobody else is re-broadcasting the transactions, the network will forget that the unconfirmed transactions existed after a few days.  At that time, the unconfirmed transactions will disappear from your wallet, and all the bitcoins that were spent in those transactions will reappear in your blockchain.info wallet available to be spent again.

If that happens, then blockchain.info will mark your address as having made a "double spend attempt" and will attach a warning to your transactions when they are displayed on their website.

While the following is very unlikely, it is possible for someone else to continue to re-broadcast your unconfirmed transactions forever.  This will continually remind the network about the transactions so that they are never forgotten. If that happens, then the unconfirmed transactions will not disappear from your wallet.  You will have to wait for them to confirm. You may have to wait a VERY long time for them to confirm before you can spend the rest of your balance in that case.
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