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August 16, 2014, 11:36:04 AM
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Fudder going to fud.  LOL.   These Supercoin/Mammothcoin trolls just can't help themselves.

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August 16, 2014, 11:43:57 AM
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I updated my first page messages so they contain synechist answer!

Wanted to wish the dev's and supporters of mamm/Super the best of luck in The future! One piece of advise; if you want million dollar investments into your project you better grow up and start being more professional in your presentation to the outside world.

You made a fool out of yourself and I can't take anything you say serious
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August 16, 2014, 01:44:46 PM
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Can anyone show me XC's multisig addresses and their associated transactions?
Would these satisfy your curiosity?
- http://chainz.cryptoid.info/xc/block.dws?62014.htm
- http://chainz.cryptoid.info/xc/tx.dws?229177.htm

You're an arse for fudding instead of just downloading the wallet and trying out Privacy Mode.

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m-of-m multisig? Are you drunk? What fun will you have to have m-of-m multisig?? If one guy is bad then you want the wallet is locked forever?

So, your reasoning process:
- timerland doesn't understand the point of m-of-m multisig.

- timerland doesn't bother to ask people from XC what m-of-m is used for.

- timerland simply concludes, with the foolhardiness of a drunk pullet, that the truth is not that he lacks understanding but that XC is a scam.


You're not very civil are you?

Just come and ask us questions next time instead of creating a fruitless and irritating FUD thread.

If you have further questions, you're welcome to ask, nicely.



my suggestion to them was to download the wallet and try it out for themselves. I have no respect for people who are too incompetent to discover their own answers to these question (which by the way is quite simple, and it also forces them to buy XC Smiley)
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August 16, 2014, 02:01:55 PM
Last edit: August 16, 2014, 03:59:05 PM by mr_random
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This topic is such bullshit. Purposefully designed to try and damage XC's reputation.

Supercoin and Mammothcoin need to be careful.

They are quickly building a dirty reputation as spreading bullshit about the competition.

Mud sticks.


I'm basing this on multiple posts and topics; XC supporters are well aware about this.

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August 16, 2014, 02:06:05 PM
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Can anyone show me XC's multisig addresses and their associated transactions?
Would these satisfy your curiosity?
- http://chainz.cryptoid.info/xc/block.dws?62014.htm
- http://chainz.cryptoid.info/xc/tx.dws?229177.htm

You're an arse for fudding instead of just downloading the wallet and trying out Privacy Mode.

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m-of-m multisig? Are you drunk? What fun will you have to have m-of-m multisig?? If one guy is bad then you want the wallet is locked forever?

So, your reasoning process:
- timerland doesn't understand the point of m-of-m multisig.

- timerland doesn't bother to ask people from XC what m-of-m is used for.

- timerland simply concludes, with the foolhardiness of a drunk pullet, that the truth is not that he lacks understanding but that XC is a scam.


You're not very civil are you?

Just come and ask us questions next time instead of creating a fruitless and irritating FUD thread.

If you have further questions, you're welcome to ask, nicely.



my suggestion to them was to download the wallet and try it out for themselves. I have no respect for people who are too incompetent to discover their own answers to these question (which by the way is quite simple, and it also forces them to buy XC Smiley)

Indeed.

It suggests that the intention was to spread FUD rather than to engage constructively.

One of the funny things about all this is that anyone claiming they've "done multisig properly" has not thereby achieved something (sorry Mammothcoin). Multisig doth not an anoncoin make, especially if you're using a non-trustless mixer).

What a weird thing to base one's superiority on. ;-)


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August 16, 2014, 02:51:30 PM
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that's exactly the questions I asked in their thread, glad you posted a thread to discuss it. thanks.

I have this question myself for some time, I saw your message in their thread. It's better have a separate thread to discuss it.

I would suggest you look at XC's Dev, Dan Metcalf's resume, and see that he is quite capable of what he says.   Also, you will have a nice shot at a very nice bounty very soon with the 3.0 release and a look at the whitepaper coming out soon.   

Resume does not mean anything, do you know satoshi's resume? People put all bullshits in their resumes. If the XC truly supports multisig, just show a multisig address as greenclover asked. Very simple.

If you ask me whether Mammothcoin / supercoin's supersend really support multisig or not, I can show you their multisig address/tx in 10 secs, very easy. So don't talk garbage here, show the facts.



 Facts provided, and resumes do mean something when previous work is factually documented and anonymity of an alt coin developer does spell trouble.  Oh, also, sweet profile pic.  You can come join the XC community, it's not too late.
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August 16, 2014, 02:52:13 PM
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Just so everyone knows, ATCsecure is releasing a whitepaper this weekend to explain The Tech! That will clarify all questions

a whitepaper does not solve much, I asked a very very simple question (nothing is simpler if they already implemented it):

- Can you please point to me some XC's multisig addresses and their transactions, so I can verify independently if the multisig is indeed implemented as you claimed.

If I want an example from Mammthcoin, I can get it in less than 30 sec in their thread.


Can anyone do me a favor and provide me the info I want? Again nothing is simpler, if it is there already

Why you need us to provide this Intel? Also asking in such a negative way is not helping in getting support from XC community

No need to waste time, just provide info. Fact is fact, you can write 1000 pages, still equal ZERO, show your facts!

Show your facts!

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August 16, 2014, 02:56:50 PM
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Can I be the Purple one?!?! PLEAAAAASEEEEEE
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August 16, 2014, 03:34:01 PM
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August 16, 2014, 03:35:21 PM
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Can anyone show me XC's multisig addresses and their associated transactions?
Would these satisfy your curiosity?
- http://chainz.cryptoid.info/xc/block.dws?62014.htm
- http://chainz.cryptoid.info/xc/tx.dws?229177.htm


You're an arse for fudding instead of just downloading the wallet and trying out Privacy Mode.

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m-of-m multisig? Are you drunk? What fun will you have to have m-of-m multisig?? If one guy is bad then you want the wallet is locked forever?

So, your reasoning process:
- timerland doesn't understand the point of m-of-m multisig.

- timerland doesn't bother to ask people from XC what m-of-m is used for.

- timerland simply concludes, with the foolhardiness of a drunk pullet, that the truth is not that he lacks understanding but that XC is a scam.


You're not very civil are you?

Just come and ask us questions next time instead of creating a fruitless and irritating FUD thread.

If you have further questions, you're welcome to ask, nicely.


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August 16, 2014, 03:46:13 PM
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Can anyone show me XC's multisig addresses and their associated transactions?
Would these satisfy your curiosity?
- http://chainz.cryptoid.info/xc/block.dws?62014.htm
- http://chainz.cryptoid.info/xc/tx.dws?229177.htm


You're an arse for fudding instead of just downloading the wallet and trying out Privacy Mode.

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m-of-m multisig? Are you drunk? What fun will you have to have m-of-m multisig?? If one guy is bad then you want the wallet is locked forever?

So, your reasoning process:
- timerland doesn't understand the point of m-of-m multisig.

- timerland doesn't bother to ask people from XC what m-of-m is used for.

- timerland simply concludes, with the foolhardiness of a drunk pullet, that the truth is not that he lacks understanding but that XC is a scam.


You're not very civil are you?

Just come and ask us questions next time instead of creating a fruitless and irritating FUD thread.

If you have further questions, you're welcome to ask, nicely.




yeah lemme quote that one more time, just because I didnt get enough of that already. Currently touching myself to multisig whitepapers.

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August 16, 2014, 04:17:09 PM
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Why start a thread that gives no proof and expect there to be some kind of positive outcome.  Don't know why OP didn't take the time to try for their self instead of this nonsense.  It's clear you have a coin in mind that you want to hype which only makes you more discredited if you ask me.  Next time less fud and more thinking before posting would be beneficial for everyone.
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August 16, 2014, 04:21:35 PM
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Can anyone show me XC's multisig addresses and their associated transactions?
Would these satisfy your curiosity?
- http://chainz.cryptoid.info/xc/block.dws?62014.htm
- http://chainz.cryptoid.info/xc/tx.dws?229177.htm

You're an arse for fudding instead of just downloading the wallet and trying out Privacy Mode.

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m-of-m multisig? Are you drunk? What fun will you have to have m-of-m multisig?? If one guy is bad then you want the wallet is locked forever?

So, your reasoning process:
- timerland doesn't understand the point of m-of-m multisig.

- timerland doesn't bother to ask people from XC what m-of-m is used for.

- timerland simply concludes, with the foolhardiness of a drunk pullet, that the truth is not that he lacks understanding but that XC is a scam.


You're not very civil are you?

Just come and ask us questions next time instead of creating a fruitless and irritating FUD thread.

If you have further questions, you're welcome to ask, nicely.



these?
- http://chainz.cryptoid.info/xc/block.dws?62014.htm
- http://chainz.cryptoid.info/xc/tx.dws?229177.htm

you made me laugh, where are multisig addresses?? these are all regular XC addresses. Do you want me to create a XC multi-address for you? Do you know how multisig address look like? You try to cheat an expert here?

Tell me, how you create a multisig address?

Also do you know how multisig address is used? what do you do with a m-of-m address? if there's a cheater being o1 of m, then what can you do anything with the address? your fund will be locked forever on that address! You can not do a thing, because you can't get the cheater to sign any transaction for you. Multisig is used mostly for m-of-n, where m < n for evident reasons.

You keep talking m-of-m, meaning you understand nothing about multisig. Don't pretent an expert here. Many people in this thread understand what they talk, you can't fool people here.



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August 16, 2014, 04:25:37 PM
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But I am puzzled by the fact that despite they talk like this, I don't see a single multisig address in XC nor do I see any multisig tx. As we all know, these are the central parts, if we do use this technology,
Except multi-sig is only part of what XC is doing. With XC we have a developer who is very interested in the underlying issues and concepts, and a man who has some very relevant technical experience in the field.
So we have something a bit different, an entire platform with many different facets.

using m-of-m multisig, lmao Grin Grin Grin what can you do with a m-of-m multisig? looks like the dev got only the name, and used it wrong Cool

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August 16, 2014, 04:28:00 PM
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Can anyone show me XC's multisig addresses and their associated transactions?
Would these satisfy your curiosity?
- http://chainz.cryptoid.info/xc/block.dws?62014.htm
- http://chainz.cryptoid.info/xc/tx.dws?229177.htm


these are multi-in/out tx, they are not multisig tx, I don't even see a multisig address there. They are all regular XC addresses.

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August 16, 2014, 04:49:35 PM
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OK, for those from XC who never seen a real XC multisig address, let me show you what it is, and you can tell me if there are any exist today on the blockchain Grin

All the one posted in the above links by synechist are regular XC addresses, they are not multisig addresses, why? because XC's multisig address starts with 4, not X.

I downloaded XC wallet, and from there in console, I created 2 multisig addresses.

I used these 3 private-public key pairs:

public key: 033942099d7fb91a51b0e2899040c36cf5337002f43b2e80ec3afe3c81cbb5a3db
private key: X35fMeU3c159SX4tWVnA7ZW7DxTyw7BCqEmt92Nw5N87kezytJSZ

public key: 02733ae45bf1d7fc5b24dcdbf54c0dd2b106a39233e65cdb47fd0fd925734f4b83
private key: X7oy79myB5WmKXAjey6oZPfo12BHmwRfD9k4rmL2oYUMdjff48NU

public key: 02307e5d3924fa8d95093ed61bfa4ecb4bf108196013ee1de466589bcf3fb212b8
private key: X2z4smxErHnkVBZnWzfPMDMNdMvD3mAnB7w7YD1BFeppf3iqUyWJ

these pairs are derived from the addresses I have. From there I created 2 addresses: 2-of-3 multisig address and 3-of-3 multisig address (though this one is of no use - just to show):

2-of-3 multisig address: 4ShqMQFoQFLBzhXDs3aJJMnDNLZ9JTrxKH
3-of-3 multisig address: 4XCmiwfQCm6gQNrW6kaXZJawLPekQGQf5o

BTW, you can make some deposits to 2-of-3 multisig address, and I can show you how to spend it. I can do a tutorial for you guys who have no ideas on what is a multisig address. Grin Grin

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August 16, 2014, 04:50:04 PM
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This topic is such bullshit. Purposefully designed to try and damage XC's reputation.

Supercoin and Mammothcoin need to be careful.

They are quickly building a dirty reputation as spreading bullshit about the competition.

Mud sticks.


I'm basing this on multiple posts and topics; XC supporters are well aware about this.
Hi,

The supercointeam is not supporting this, the team even stated before that we do not participate doing dirty competition, not with any coin. Secondly, fud about XC or other coins gets deleted in supercoin thread.

And I as a supercoin supporter think we shouldn't promote ourselves with talk like this either. If people have legit questions about XC and are seeking for an answer, they may do this but they should leave supercoin out of this. We (supercoin community) are not looking for an answer from XC on this matter, only a few individuals are. It's not because some hold a couple of Supercoins, that they speak in name of the whole community. And they especially don't when they are holding MAMM coins.
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August 16, 2014, 04:55:54 PM
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OK, for those from XC who never seen a real XC multisig address, let me show you what it is, and you can tell me if there are any exist today on the blockchain Grin

All the one posted in the above links by synechist are regular XC addresses, they are not multisig addresses, why? because XC's multisig address starts with 4, not X.

I downloaded XC wallet, and from there in console, I created 2 multisig addresses.

I used these 3 private-public key pairs:

public key: 033942099d7fb91a51b0e2899040c36cf5337002f43b2e80ec3afe3c81cbb5a3db
private key: X35fMeU3c159SX4tWVnA7ZW7DxTyw7BCqEmt92Nw5N87kezytJSZ

public key: 02733ae45bf1d7fc5b24dcdbf54c0dd2b106a39233e65cdb47fd0fd925734f4b83
private key: X7oy79myB5WmKXAjey6oZPfo12BHmwRfD9k4rmL2oYUMdjff48NU

public key: 02307e5d3924fa8d95093ed61bfa4ecb4bf108196013ee1de466589bcf3fb212b8
private key: X2z4smxErHnkVBZnWzfPMDMNdMvD3mAnB7w7YD1BFeppf3iqUyWJ

these pairs are derived from the addresses I have. From there I created 2 addresses: 2-of-3 multisig address and 3-of-3 multisig address (though this one is of no use - just to show):

2-of-3 multisig address: 4ShqMQFoQFLBzhXDs3aJJMnDNLZ9JTrxKH
3-of-3 multisig address: 4XCmiwfQCm6gQNrW6kaXZJawLPekQGQf5o

BTW, you can make some deposits to 2-of-3 multisig address, and I can show you how to spend it. I can do a tutorial for you guys who have no ideas on what is a multisig address. Grin Grin


Look at this. Dirty XC stop cheating people, It's a Shame on you!

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August 16, 2014, 05:07:06 PM
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Really grown up! What do you want to achieve with this? You really think no one has looked into this and you have found some real flaw in XC?
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August 16, 2014, 05:08:51 PM
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OK, for those from XC who never seen a real XC multisig address, let me show you what it is, and you can tell me if there are any exist today on the blockchain Grin

All the one posted in the above links by synechist are regular XC addresses, they are not multisig addresses, why? because XC's multisig address starts with 4, not X.

I downloaded XC wallet, and from there in console, I created 2 multisig addresses.

I used these 3 private-public key pairs:

public key: 033942099d7fb91a51b0e2899040c36cf5337002f43b2e80ec3afe3c81cbb5a3db
private key: X35fMeU3c159SX4tWVnA7ZW7DxTyw7BCqEmt92Nw5N87kezytJSZ

public key: 02733ae45bf1d7fc5b24dcdbf54c0dd2b106a39233e65cdb47fd0fd925734f4b83
private key: X7oy79myB5WmKXAjey6oZPfo12BHmwRfD9k4rmL2oYUMdjff48NU

public key: 02307e5d3924fa8d95093ed61bfa4ecb4bf108196013ee1de466589bcf3fb212b8
private key: X2z4smxErHnkVBZnWzfPMDMNdMvD3mAnB7w7YD1BFeppf3iqUyWJ

these pairs are derived from the addresses I have. From there I created 2 addresses: 2-of-3 multisig address and 3-of-3 multisig address (though this one is of no use - just to show):

2-of-3 multisig address: 4ShqMQFoQFLBzhXDs3aJJMnDNLZ9JTrxKH
3-of-3 multisig address: 4XCmiwfQCm6gQNrW6kaXZJawLPekQGQf5o

BTW, you can make some deposits to 2-of-3 multisig address, and I can show you how to spend it. I can do a tutorial for you guys who have no ideas on what is a multisig address. Grin Grin


wow, thanks some138 to show us what are the real multisig addresses in XC.

From what XC's dev's post, and the "multisig" tx and address they provided in the above links, I can say that they did not understand what is a multisig, they mixed multi input/out tx with multisig? Anyway, they did not seem to implement the multisig at all. Looks like they've been cheating all the way along (consciously or unconsciously).

Multisig addresses usually start with a different letter than their regular address. For example, Bitcoin's regular address starts with "1", its multisig address starts with "3". Supercoin's regular address starts with "S", its multisig address starts with "C". Mammothcoin's regular address starts with "M", its multisig address starts with "b". etc. For XC, its regular address starts with X and multisig address starts with "4". Everyone can create a multisig address using XC client and verify yourself.
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