it's not irrelevant when your personal opinion about God shine through is a discussion about objectivity and moral. leave god out of it, please.
Religious people are suffering from the paranoid delusion that there exist a superior being, that will send them to hell if they does not do what he/she/it expects . Therefor they are mentally ill.
I think it is important that we learn to respect freedom of speech and to engage in a civil discourse. We may not agree but I respect your right to express yourself. You should afford others the same right. Name calling is counterproductive.
Isaac Newton, arguably one of the greatest scientists ever, was a devout believer. He studied astrology, metaphysics, the Bible, and other various occult beliefs. In fact, his biblical writings are more voluminous than his scientific papers. While I may not agree with Sir Isaac Newton's interpretation into some of those things, I would hardly classify him as a retard or mentally ill.
Sir Isaac Newton, John Locke, Sir Francis Bacon, and a wide variety of important Enlightenment thinkers believed in an orderly, rational universe. They were not mentally ill or retards.
Indeed, the most celebrated thinkers in Western Civilization, before and after Plato and Aristotle, all believed in reason, natural law, and a rational, orderly universe.
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Part II
If we start with the premise that there used to be nothing--and that out of nothing the big bang originated billions of years ago. And that this capricious explosion, without any order or purpose, formed the starts, the planets, the moons, and the various suns of the universe, seems far fetched. And that, after this, so called simple cells, which magically appear, with the perfect proportions of amino acids and DNA, emerged out of the oceans, and over time, through a blind and unguided natural selection, produced over billions of years, all the various species of life on this planet, including vegetation, may make for a good fairy tale, but it is not science.
DNA is more complicated than the most complicated supercomputers and computer programs--yet we are to believe that pure blind chance and a row of the dice produced such intelligence that our most sophisticated computers and human minds cannot begin to understand all the mysteries of life and the universe. Perhaps if the human race becomes extinct, a new race of humans will evolve and will draw the conclusion that all the computers, smart phones, airplanes, and other technology was also a product of a blind process--who knows?
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Part III
The natural world clearly evinces design and order. It can be studied and analyzed; it is not capricious. There is a natural order in the universe--the precise distant of the planets, the ratio of the sun and moon to the earth, the laws of astronomy, biology, chemistry, linguistics, physics, and mathematics all suggest that some Supreme Being is the author of life. Do you really believe that wild and blind explosions out of nothing can possibly create rational existence? If so, how?
Personally I don't buy it. I don't think that your Creator, the Muslim Allah and the Hindu Krishna are all the same universal deity that espouses the same laws. But if it works for you, that's fine. Like you, I also can't prove a negative Smiley
I agree; the Muslim Creator, the Hindu Creator, the Christian Creator, and other religions Creators are not the same being. Clearly, all religions, with some exceptions, contradict each other. It is true that most religions agree on some moral precepts; but theologically speaking, they all have different representations of who God is, his nature, his purpose; heaven and hell; reincarnation; divination; et al.
In fact, most religions are polytheistic, with male and female gods and goddesses.
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Two theses
1. The natural world and the cosmos clearly evince a Supreme Being
2. Only Scripture can reveal who this Supreme Being is--his name, his nature, his purpose, our purpose, his salvation plan.
