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[BBmmBB]

There looks like some weird level of involvement by AK ...
 It was the same time AK refunded a random newbie gambler on just-dice (user 1ruru made a reddit thread about it; dooglus can probably confirm).

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so AK was a mod(working) on JD  ? :\     ~ i just remember him always whaleing out !

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[BBmmBB]

Hey you greedy fucks that want "your" coins back.

Well they aren't were not "your" coins when you LENT them to this site as a promissory note, the note was voided

http://cuddlebuggery.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/Good-day-sir.png

Promissory note: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Promissory_note

IF YOU DON'T OWN THE PRIVATE KEYS YOU DON'T OWN THE BITCOIN!

i'd like to see dice.ninjas' prospectus ! lmfao ! 

[snarlpill]

So a fucking degen gambler stole our money, lost it, and now a filthy rich dice site owner has no remorse keeping stolen money.

This community is rotten. I think I'm done with BTC.

stunna is a confirmed lying scumbag so this would make perfect sense!  


stunna + nil + tradefortress ...~... the list continues .....

Alright dude... You are diluting this thread with off-topic posts.

If BTC dice site operators had to return all of the BTC that was gambled that shouldn't have been, they would probably have to roll back like every other bet that was ever made...  including: BTC people borrowed in the lending section then gambled away, stolen funds that were gambled, funds that should have been used for other purposes but were gambled, etc...    
I see no reason why Stunna would Have to return those funds at all, they were lost to his casino fairly. (He also lost a lot of his own money in between)
Basically- It's not the crack dealer's fault that you had to steal your mom's TV to get the money to buy the crack. He just exchanged his product for your money, he doesn't have to investigate every purchase to insure that it was made righteously.

Anyways... now I'm taking it off-topic, so I will stop here.

[BBmmBB]

Well these new developments certainly look pretty damning. It seems either AK at Least had some weird level of involvement in this, or dmf/to4d went to great lengths setting up the long con + frame of AK (not impossible; if you're going to set-up anyone in the BTC world there would be no better person to set-up). AK has also been caught up in some lies/inconsistencies about his IP address and TOR node. He has also not posted proof of his own large stash prior to Dice.Ninja from mining as he said he would. However, if you look back through JoeMattie's post history, you will certainly see him mentioning mining a lot, and proving he was mining several altcoins at one point in time. Personally I think the early BTC adopter/miner with a large stash of BTC still seems plausible, even if he is directly involved with Dice.Ninja and/or Cold Wallet funds later on. Unfortunately while looking through his past posts, I have been proven wrong about one of my previous notes:

-I've never seen AK even mention anything remotely close to coding knowledge (I know that doesn't necessarily mean shit, but still)

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=259750.msg2771381#msg2771381

While bit-loot.com =/= the coding level required for Dice.Ninja, it certainly proves he had some knowledge of coding. Also....

I'd be really interested in testing this.  I currently uses Django/Mezzanine/Cartridge with Stripe.com for my USD based webstore and I want to implement alt-coin support.   I'd be happy to help write a Django api for this as well.

Also, I've noted that he never posted in the actual Dice.Ninja thread. And while this is slightly odd as he posted in a lot of gambling threads, he never really posted in the PrimeDice thread either, and obviously we know he played a lot there.

I'm not quite ready to hang him for involvement in Dice.Ninja, but he certainly has some inconsistencies he needs to come back and clear up. I didn't want to believe this was true. Say it ain't so, Joe...

muddafucking ninja turtle!!!! >>   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=259750.msg2792935#msg2792935
 obvious is obvious!!!!!! 

[BBmmBB]

So a fucking degen gambler stole our money, lost it, and now a filthy rich dice site owner has no remorse keeping stolen money.

This community is rotten. I think I'm done with BTC.

stunna is a confirmed lying scumbag so this would make perfect sense!  


stunna + nil + tradefortress ...~... the list continues .....

Alright dude... You are diluting this thread with off-topic posts.

If BTC dice site operators had to return all of the BTC that was gambled that shouldn't have been, they would probably have to roll back like every other bet that was ever made...  including: BTC people borrowed in the lending section then gambled away, stolen funds that were gambled, funds that should have been used for other purposes but were gambled, etc...    
I see no reason why Stunna would Have to return those funds at all, they were lost to his casino fairly. (He also lost a lot of his own money in between)
Basically- It's not the crack dealer's fault that you had to steal your mom's TV to get the money to buy the crack. He just exchanged his product for your money, he doesn't have to investigate every purchase to insure that it was made righteously.

Anyways... now I'm taking it off-topic, so I will stop here.

does he still have the T.V. my biker gang friends will go get it back for mama !!!

oh the T.V. is now at the pawn shop ? I bet the bikers know the dude who runs that place !

... the ninja coins didn't randomly end up at stunnas pad ...they were moved there as part of crafted strategy! jmho  

[Cyrax89721]

Jesus Christ, BBmmBB, can you just go jump off a cliff already?  You're by far the most irritating and childish person I've ever come across on a forum and you contribute absolutely nothing to the discussion.

[BBmmBB]

But it was the first transaction of the Ninja Address.

OK, so the change from DN stashing their first 10 BTC into cold storage was used to fund a withdrawal to AK's PD account.

That's not suspicious.

We already know AK was at DN right from the start - he posted in the JD chat about it within hours of launch.

because he is a ninja turtle of course!!! 

[theskillzdatklls]

stunna doesn't owe anything. that much is absolutely clear.

[BBmmBB]

stunna doesn't owe anything. that much is absolutely clear.

these coins moved to PrimeDice/stunna ...just look >> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=745422.msg9207030#msg9207030

[dooglus]

While bit-loot.com =/= the coding level required for Dice.Ninja, it certainly proves he had some knowledge of coding.

This is from the Just-Dice chat logs:

+ Mon Jun  9 04:00:32 2014 (788073) <AKCoinMiner> I've still got a ton of HUC as well
  Mon Jun  9 04:00:55 2014 (716561) <a1choi> wut.  he lost 90% of his invesment
  Mon Jun  9 04:01:00 2014 (134004) <@SJ> easily
  Mon Jun  9 04:01:05 2014 (1470) <KLYE> *if* HUC gets a web based client that you don't have to download the blockchain... It could go to the moon
+ Mon Jun  9 04:01:13 2014 (788073) <AKCoinMiner> actually, I nearly finished a pretty nice opengl cross-platform huc client before blockchain syncing issues made it difficult to keep working on

Remember the "fancy bets" feature at dice.ninja? Wasn't that a pretty nice opengl cross-platform dice game visualisation? I seem to remember dmf or toad in the dice.ninja chat saying that it was opengl.

Again, this isn't proof of anything. It is just more circumstantial evidence: dmf and AK both not only have some knowledge of coding, but both have experience of a specific coding technology.

This user is currently ignored.

Forget it, Donny, you're out of your element!

[ltcnim]

actually, the feature was using webgl

[BBmmBB]

While bit-loot.com =/= the coding level required for Dice.Ninja, it certainly proves he had some knowledge of coding.

This is from the Just-Dice chat logs:

+ Mon Jun  9 04:00:32 2014 (788073) <AKCoinMiner> I've still got a ton of HUC as well
  Mon Jun  9 04:00:55 2014 (716561) <a1choi> wut.  he lost 90% of his invesment
  Mon Jun  9 04:01:00 2014 (134004) <@SJ> easily
  Mon Jun  9 04:01:05 2014 (1470) <KLYE> *if* HUC gets a web based client that you don't have to download the blockchain... It could go to the moon
+ Mon Jun  9 04:01:13 2014 (788073) <AKCoinMiner> actually, I nearly finished a pretty nice opengl cross-platform huc client before blockchain syncing issues made it difficult to keep working on

is this the one? >> http://www.mithrilman.com/huntercoin

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=435170.msg7204745#msg7204745

https://twitter.com/MithrilMan/status/478671639287443457


hmmmm?

[dooglus]

actually, the feature was using webgl

OK, thanks.

Is that similiar? Or does it just have "gl" at the end of its name?

[Dotcommie]

actually, the feature was using webgl

OK, thanks.

Is that similiar? Or does it just have "gl" at the end of its name?

Yes.  It's just a way to use the power of opengl on the web.  Guess he was just correcting the name for the code that was used.

"WebGL is based on OpenGL ES 2.0 and provides an API for 3D graphics."

[jaysabi]

So a fucking degen gambler stole our money, lost it, and now a filthy rich dice site owner has no remorse keeping stolen money.

This community is rotten. I think I'm done with BTC.

You can't blame Stunna. He doesn't owe anyone anything for running his site. It's impractical, if not impossible, to vet where deposit funds come from for every player. If this was a licensed casino, he might have that obligation (for AML concerns), but pretty much everyone gambling at a bitcoin dice site is doing so because they don't WANT to be gambling at a licensed casino.

You get what you pay for, and in this case, you're paying for no regulation. If that's not part of your cost benefit analysis, you shouldn't be using bitcoin, and you certainly shouldn't be investing it somewhere with an anonymous person.

If you don't have the private keys, you don't have the bitcoins. So basically you gave them to someone with the hope they'll give them back.

Everyone needs to stop doing this, or at least do so with the knowledge that there's no recourse if you don't get them back, and don't look for sympathy.

[ltcnim]

actually, the feature was using webgl

OK, thanks.

Is that similiar? Or does it just have "gl" at the end of its name?

Yes.  It's just a way to use the power of opengl on the web.  Guess he was just correcting the name for the code that was used.

"WebGL is based on OpenGL ES 2.0 and provides an API for 3D graphics."

yeah, I just wanted to point to the correct term, sorry if I sounded like a smartass. I had a discussion with dmf about it when he implemented it, because my PC had a hard time when there was too much betting *g*

[omahapoker]

What sites? He's down a few hundred on PRC. Did he lose anything on DB?

he may been down at prc overall, but he won i think 300-400 in last few days before ninja went down

at DB i think he 160 or so

he won i think 100 at peerbet

before losing 1200 at PD he won 500-600 at PD

i think he won 100 at dice now

won 100 at ninja 4-5 days before ninja down

won 400 at ninja in last month


he did win 400 at bitdice last 2 weeks beforebut then lost it all 24 hours later

he won a few other places but im too lazy to go look and post. maybe later

Really CBI? , its funny you are supporting him without any reason.
No He is not up on PRC, he is down around 200-300 there.
Before losing at PD he did win some, but eventually lost it all + an extra 800.
no idea about dice now.
At peerbet he just won 25 BTC.
No he did not win 100 at ninja 4-5 days before. The profit was at -200 for a long time.
He won 350 last month, but if he owns the site that he could easily win.
On Bitdice, He didn't win rather lost it all.....He won like 50, and lost 400 to the site. -350 there.

Do the math.
He also doesn't have to lose the entire amount. If I have a fucking invest site, and out of 1700 I lose 1400, I would still try and shutdown the site when I have 300 left, as no point in coming back, because its already insolvent.

i talked to AK 2-3 times a day at least a week before he lost and i watched him at many places

before he "lost 800 extra coins" at PDm he won 700 coins at pd 500 from ak account 200 under deannolan account



so before he lost at PD he had at least 700 coins on him


https://twitter.com/CryptoBetting/status/509185595113873409

dice now he won 40 coins but that tweet was early in the day, he ended up winning 90 coins that day


prcdice was 475 or in profit and AK wiped it out so lets say thats 475 coins road was the one who lost 475 coins

AK did lose some after that at prc but not 475 coins.

and yes he did win 100 coins 3 days at ninja before ninja went down.

i could go on but like i said. im lazy...maybe later



Im sticking up for AK cuz i consider him a friend. if it turns out he was the one who scammed everyone, then i'll be on your side bashiung AK

but i dont see that yet i have a few questions for AK but im not ready to hang him in the public square

[imp0ster]

Also- to the people doing blockchain analysis and other investigations, and to the people adding things up and pointing out his involvement in this-
Have some balls and post it from your own account instead of making a new account. In my opinion, creating new members just to post proof damages the credibility of the claims being made slightly, and just further muddies up the waters around here. Especially when some anonymous person/people have run off with a lot of funds lately, having new members popping up left and right making claims could be whoever hiding behind other accounts. Be accountable for your actions- if you've done the investigative work and found proofs, back them up with your current account and reputation. Just my opinion.

If you are talking about me, as I said I'm new around here, I pasted my findings in the chat rooms and people requested I post here.

[Dotcommie]

before he "lost 800 extra coins" at PDm he won 700 coins at pd 500 from ak account 200 under deannolan account

Wait, so he also uses that name?  Did I miss that earlier?  Isn't that the mod/owner of PRC?


On a more comical note, it's pretty hilarious that most of the people we have been talking about in here are on this dick tree...
https://i.imgur.com/10uWxf6.png (nsfw?)

[snarlpill]

If you are talking about me, as I said I'm new around here, I pasted my findings in the chat rooms and people requested I post here.

Wasn't talking about you specifically but you were one of a handful of new accounts I was referencing, yes. You might be one of the legitimate new members, so I can respect that. But you can ask anyone on here, whenever there is some drama, scamming, and/or FUD around here, sock puppets and shills tend to pop up and try to distract everyone or change public opinion. It's just too easy for people to do on the internet when everyone can be anonymous.

You were one of the people that posted a lot of information they found, so I appreciate the work and thought you put into that. I really don't want to believe that AK did this, but a lot of evidence and unanswered questions are popping up. If it was him running Dice.Ninja, I am also a believer that he probably didn't mean to end up losing the bankroll and running, but we all know how addictive dice can be, and after luck ran out he probably ended up frantically chasing losses in hopes of recovering it for all of the investors.    AK man, I don't like saying those things about you, please come back to clear this up and answer some of these questions.