Why is there so many conspiracy junkies here?

[valvalis]

In this forum there are many people who don't trust the government.
And they are too much reading about conspiracy theories.
Then they create their own theories.

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[freedomno1]

The US is funding the ISIS secretly.

True actually
They are funding elements in a country they are fighting for but the funding is going to a place they are bombing.
In essence its the same terrorist group that receives funding in Syria that has that funding move to Iraq.
http://rt.com/op-edge/181068-isis-iraq-violence-us-intervene/

RT: Why are the US and the EU so eager to fight the Islamist group in Iraq, but largely ignoring its activity in Syria?

SR: That is one of the ironies - they have them in Syrian and they pretend to fight them in Iraq. I think the scenario and the policies are quite clear to anybody who observed it carefully. The US and NATO countries are using the threat of ISIL/ISIS to re-intervene, to wage in the future new wars in the region, create new military bases, especially in Iraqi Kurdistan, to try and weaken any Baghdad central government, maybe even divide Iraq into three warring regions with a very weak central government in Baghdad. The current vice president of the US Joe Biden when he was a Senator proposed to divide Iraq into three regions with a very weak center and that is what they are now practically doing in Iraq today by using this ISIS threat and savagery.

[s1lverbox]

Because some people have too much time on hand.

Those conspiracy theory actually provides good reading and keep people content rather than paying attention to most recent events.

I'm not sure how anyone can still hold this attitude.

Long before the snowden revelations, people who said that US agencies spy on everyone and collect data ignoring all laws have been ridiculed and called conspiracy freaks.

I do believe that the US government is behind ISIS, al qaeda, and other groups which they use for false flag operations and to justify tyrannical laws and military actions.

Using fear to manipulate the population is nothing new and have been used many times during our history.

Doesn't matter if all the allegation is true or not, it is pointless to go against the tide and not played by the rules.

you perfect example of typical sheep. If majority doing you doing as well.

[spazzdla]

Show me a video that actually shows a plane hitting the twin towers and not one that fades out before and back in after it hits it.

Where did all the gold go tha was under the trade center?

[itsAj]

Because some people have too much time on hand.

Those conspiracy theory actually provides good reading and keep people content rather than paying attention to most recent events.

I'm not sure how anyone can still hold this attitude.

Long before the snowden revelations, people who said that US agencies spy on everyone and collect data ignoring all laws have been ridiculed and called conspiracy freaks.

I do believe that the US government is behind ISIS, al qaeda, and other groups which they use for false flag operations and to justify tyrannical laws and military actions.

Using fear to manipulate the population is nothing new and have been used many times during our history.

Doesn't matter if all the allegation is true or not, it is pointless to go against the tide and not played by the rules.

Beside, Snowden might be getting false information on the level of competency of the intelligence community. If the intelligence is that good, we wouldn't have this much problem in the world now.

Snowden has not exposed good intelligence. He has exposed intelligence gathering that gathers too much information. It is very difficult for the NSA to filter out all the noise because there is just too much information.

[fdiini]

Because some people have too much time on hand.

Those conspiracy theory actually provides good reading and keep people content rather than paying attention to most recent events.

I'm not sure how anyone can still hold this attitude.

Long before the snowden revelations, people who said that US agencies spy on everyone and collect data ignoring all laws have been ridiculed and called conspiracy freaks.

I do believe that the US government is behind ISIS, al qaeda, and other groups which they use for false flag operations and to justify tyrannical laws and military actions.

Using fear to manipulate the population is nothing new and have been used many times during our history.

Doesn't matter if all the allegation is true or not, it is pointless to go against the tide and not played by the rules.

Beside, Snowden might be getting false information on the level of competency of the intelligence community. If the intelligence is that good, we wouldn't have this much problem in the world now.

Snowden has not exposed good intelligence. He has exposed intelligence gathering that gathers too much information. It is very difficult for the NSA to filter out all the noise because there is just too much information.

This is the first time I heard too much information and not able to filtered out by NSA.

You have friend working in the department or are you just guessing?

[bitsmichel]

The US is funding the ISIS secretly.

You should read about the CIA history. Many documents are now in the open. We have been funding rebel groups (and even training) before.  Osama bin laden was once 'the great freedom fighter' according to the press and funded by our government.

https://images.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=http%3A%2F%2F1.bp.blogspot.com%2F-WPEQrePE3VY%2FUE4SJn-daOI%2FAAAAAAAAAe0%2Fux2Zkx7sTCY%2Fs1600%2Fc2qgIh.jpeg&f=1

[itsAj]

Because some people have too much time on hand.

Those conspiracy theory actually provides good reading and keep people content rather than paying attention to most recent events.

I'm not sure how anyone can still hold this attitude.

Long before the snowden revelations, people who said that US agencies spy on everyone and collect data ignoring all laws have been ridiculed and called conspiracy freaks.

I do believe that the US government is behind ISIS, al qaeda, and other groups which they use for false flag operations and to justify tyrannical laws and military actions.

Using fear to manipulate the population is nothing new and have been used many times during our history.

Doesn't matter if all the allegation is true or not, it is pointless to go against the tide and not played by the rules.

Beside, Snowden might be getting false information on the level of competency of the intelligence community. If the intelligence is that good, we wouldn't have this much problem in the world now.

Snowden has not exposed good intelligence. He has exposed intelligence gathering that gathers too much information. It is very difficult for the NSA to filter out all the noise because there is just too much information.

This is the first time I heard too much information and not able to filtered out by NSA.

You have friend working in the department or are you just guessing?

I am surprised that you have not heard this before. This has been reported in the media many times. If you were to look at all of the email accounts in the US, how many of them do you think would have an email that included the word, "bomb" or "airplane" or "terrorism" or "hijack" if I had to guess I would say a very good percentage of them. Anytime anything terrorism related is in the news, it is likely that many people talk about these kind of things, just like they talk about anything else that is in the news. Anytime that a friend is going to travel to a dangerous place in the world, these kinds of things would likely be mentioned just as other risks would likely be mentioned.

If so many people are using these terms in their email, then how is the NSA suppose to filter out when a normal citizen who would never dream of doing harm to their country verses someone who wishes for the US to collapse?

[freedomno1]

The US is funding the ISIS secretly.

You should read about the CIA history. Many documents are now in the open. We have been funding rebel groups (and even training) before.  Osama bin laden was once 'the great freedom fighter' according to the press and funded by our government.

https://images.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=http%3A%2F%2F1.bp.blogspot.com%2F-WPEQrePE3VY%2FUE4SJn-daOI%2FAAAAAAAAAe0%2Fux2Zkx7sTCY%2Fs1600%2Fc2qgIh.jpeg&f=1

There is more than have enough data to agree with your points
I was relating to the OP's point on that point in particular having evidence to prove and back up the argument that it is not a conspiracy theory but a fact that's not very well known.

[Hamuki]

The US is funding the ISIS secretly.

You should read about the CIA history. Many documents are now in the open. We have been funding rebel groups (and even training) before.  Osama bin laden was once 'the great freedom fighter' according to the press and funded by our government.

https://images.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=http%3A%2F%2F1.bp.blogspot.com%2F-WPEQrePE3VY%2FUE4SJn-daOI%2FAAAAAAAAAe0%2Fux2Zkx7sTCY%2Fs1600%2Fc2qgIh.jpeg&f=1

There is more than have enough data to agree with your points
I was relating to the OP's point on that point in particular having evidence to prove and back up the argument that it is not a conspiracy theory but a fact that's not very well known.

Not talking about specific stories.. Just pointing out that so much shit is being posted...

[Keyara]

In this forum there are many people who don't trust the government.
And they are too much reading about conspiracy theories.
Then they create their own theories.

When the government is sick, it creates a sick population.

Conspiracy junkies are just the natural outcome of an unhealthy country.

[Cortex7]

The US is funding the ISIS secretly.

You should read about the CIA history. Many documents are now in the open. We have been funding rebel groups (and even training) before.  Osama bin laden was once 'the great freedom fighter' according to the press and funded by our government.

https://images.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=http%3A%2F%2F1.bp.blogspot.com%2F-WPEQrePE3VY%2FUE4SJn-daOI%2FAAAAAAAAAe0%2Fux2Zkx7sTCY%2Fs1600%2Fc2qgIh.jpeg&f=1

There is more than have enough data to agree with your points
I was relating to the OP's point on that point in particular having evidence to prove and back up the argument that it is not a conspiracy theory but a fact that's not very well known.

Not talking about specific stories.. Just pointing out that so much shit is being posted...

Haha, you quoted the stories. I can only assume those are the ones you consider as "so much shit"

[spazzdla]

LMAO yes Cortex7 I loved you called that out.  I have friends that should never open thier mouths they are so stupid.  They go on for hours about how the media is wrong, they were there all the stories are twisted then not 5 minutes later use news articles to defend a point.... Like.. do you think I actually care or believe anything you are going on about?

[Honeypot]

It's called cognitive dissonance. The fatal kind - they cherry pick what they want and put together mosaics of what they want to see. Then they claim they know better because they are 'smart' enough to put together a pile of self gratifying bull.

It's same as watching a chimp smear feces over its face, then watch as it claims no one is as 'tough' as it is because they don't have the balls to shit stain their own face.

The world is not a mosaic. It's a shit storm that most fools have trouble looking at directly.

All this conspiracy bitching is a good proof that many people here are nothing more then kids behind monitors. It's really embarrassing - wonder why crypto is having a hard time being accepted into mainstream? We don't need any 'illuminati' to fuck up that plan, because these twenty something kids are doing a fine job of that on their own.

[Nemo1024]

There are conspiracy theories, and then there are conspiracy facts. I have a feeling that a lot of the latter has been put together with the former, just to stigmatise and discredit independent thinking and investigation.

A derogatory "hey, it's a conspiracy theory" has much the same effect as telling the kid "stop asking silly questions" or telling an adult "it's god's will" - it stops a line of questioning that might be undesirable.

An example of a conspiracy theory: aliens conspire with the US government (lack of any solid proof, which is the burden of the one putting forth a hypothesis)
An example of a conspiracy fact: KAL-007 was destroyed over the sea of Japan, near Niigata some 45 minutes after the official stated time of destruction. (Multiple cross-referencing proofs, such as debris found up the predominant current, speech analysis of control tower recordings, cross-referenced disagreeing witness accounts pointing to shoot-downs of multiple military aircraft)

[Cortex7]

There are conspiracy theories, and then there are conspiracy facts. I have a feeling that a lot of the latter has been put together with the former, just to stigmatise and discredit independent thinking and investigation.

Exactly!

The libor scandal comes to mind, that was a blatant conspiracy fact! Even the public court proceedings state as much.

People seemed not to give a shit that their money was diluted to pay for the whole debacle. ho hum.

[Tusk]

It's called cognitive dissonance. The fatal kind - they cherry pick what they want and put together mosaics of what they want to see. Then they claim they know better because they are 'smart' enough to put together a pile of self gratifying bull.

It's same as watching a chimp smear feces over its face, then watch as it claims no one is as 'tough' as it is because they don't have the balls to shit stain their own face.

The world is not a mosaic. It's a shit storm that most fools have trouble looking at directly.

All this conspiracy bitching is a good proof that many people here are nothing more then kids behind monitors. It's really embarrassing - wonder why crypto is having a hard time being accepted into mainstream? We don't need any 'illuminati' to fuck up that plan, because these twenty something kids are doing a fine job of that on their own.

By removing contradiction truth is revealed.

[Mike Christ]

In this forum there are many people who don't trust the government.
And they are too much reading about conspiracy theories.
Then they create their own theories.

When the government is sick, it creates a sick population.

Conspiracy junkies are just the natural outcome of an unhealthy country.

You have this backwards; government is an extension of the people, not its originator.  It's sick people who create a sick government, not the other way around; governments have no power outside of that which the people give them.  Conspiracy junkies are the people who don't like the sick people--potentially sick themselves but at minimum aware of it--and want others to stop being that way; to them, the sick society is indeed conspiring against them, but the explanation as to why is not evident to some so we get whacky theories born from such ignorance like illuminati or bilderburg or patriarchy (as a group, rather a system) etc.

[Rassah]

What I find tragically funny is that conspiracy junkies come up with a bunch of conspiracies, like in the list OP gave, then some revelations come out about actual conspiracies, which are totally different and unrelated to the ones junkies keep pushing, and then those conspiracy junkies go, "See?! That conspiracy was fact! That means mine could be a fact too!"

Sorry guys, just because new facts about some other theories are discovered, that doesn't make your theory any more valid.

[Cortex7]

It's called cognitive dissonance. The fatal kind - they cherry pick what they want and put together mosaics of what they want to see. Then they claim they know better because they are 'smart' enough to put together a pile of self gratifying bull.

It's same as watching a chimp smear feces over its face, then watch as it claims no one is as 'tough' as it is because they don't have the balls to shit stain their own face.

The world is not a mosaic. It's a shit storm that most fools have trouble looking at directly.

All this conspiracy bitching is a good proof that many people here are nothing more then kids behind monitors. It's really embarrassing - wonder why crypto is having a hard time being accepted into mainstream? We don't need any 'illuminati' to fuck up that plan, because these twenty something kids are doing a fine job of that on their own.

By removing contradiction truth is revealed.

Indeed, good point, cognitive dissonance tends to exist more in the minds of those who don't ask questions and speculate.
They stick to a solution that does not logically work out, that IS cognitive dissonance. Someone trying to work things out are trying to reduce that dissonance, granted they may be dead wrong but at least they're trying.

It's strange how some individuals are so opposed to free thinking and logical debate? Anyone would think they had been conditioned to oppose it