DogecoinMachine (OP)
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July 06, 2015, 08:55:48 AM |
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Why don't u just pay 1 BTC for the first exploit and the second u discuss with dooglus. I mean come on u run a bitcoin casino, what u care about .4 BTC for a serious bug!
ClamCoin
Exactly if you are serious about business you should be thankful to someone who contacts you regarding a bug. No offense to crypto-games, but take a look at their bankroll, the amount strata is asking(increased,after agreeing before on 1.1btc for all the bugs), is nearly 1/30th of the total bankroll. If you would read the whole messages in post you would know where's the problem. We both agreed for 1.1 payment, but then they step away and started to blackmailing us. And bug is fixed now. But if he apologizes for all he said, we give him 1,5BTC bounty. Till then we won't discuss about this with him anymore. I will apologies, will i get 1,5 btc? You didn't report this bug. So sorry, no. |
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joter85
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July 06, 2015, 08:56:02 AM |
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Why don't u just pay 1 BTC for the first exploit and the second u discuss with dooglus. I mean come on u run a bitcoin casino, what u care about .4 BTC for a serious bug!
ClamCoin
Exactly if you are serious about business you should be thankful to someone who contacts you regarding a bug. No offense to crypto-games, but take a look at their bankroll, the amount strata is asking(increased,after agreeing before on 1.1btc for all the bugs), is nearly 1/30th of the total bankroll. If you would read the whole messages in post you would know where's the problem. We both agreed for 1.1 payment, but then they step away and started to blackmailing us. Yes I did read the messages and if what you claim is true(which I suspect it is), subSTRATA has indeed broke his promise and should report all bugs known to him for the agreed amount, but if it is not in his power to report them(as he claims) then there is nothing that can be done from his side, you should talk to dooglus and agree upon a new bounty then. We said that he gets reward if he apologizes... this is my 10 times explaining this. We will use escrow no problem. |
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siwakotisaurav
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July 06, 2015, 08:57:26 AM |
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Why don't u just pay 1 BTC for the first exploit and the second u discuss with dooglus. I mean come on u run a bitcoin casino, what u care about .4 BTC for a serious bug!
ClamCoin
Exactly if you are serious about business you should be thankful to someone who contacts you regarding a bug. No offense to crypto-games, but take a look at their bankroll, the amount strata is asking(increased,after agreeing before on 1.1btc for all the bugs), is nearly 1/30th of the total bankroll. If you would read the whole messages in post you would know where's the problem. We both agreed for 1.1 payment, but then they step away and started to blackmailing us. Yes I did read the messages and if what you claim is true(which I suspect it is), subSTRATA has indeed broke his promise and should report all bugs known to him for the agreed amount, but if it is not in his power to report them(as he claims) then there is nothing that can be done from his side, you should talk to dooglus and agree upon a new bounty then. We said that he gets reward if he apologizes... this is my 10 times explaining this. We will use escrow no problem. So just to clear it, has he reported all of the bugs known to him? |
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joter85
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July 06, 2015, 08:58:18 AM |
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Why don't u just pay 1 BTC for the first exploit and the second u discuss with dooglus. I mean come on u run a bitcoin casino, what u care about .4 BTC for a serious bug!
ClamCoin
Exactly if you are serious about business you should be thankful to someone who contacts you regarding a bug. No offense to crypto-games, but take a look at their bankroll, the amount strata is asking(increased,after agreeing before on 1.1btc for all the bugs), is nearly 1/30th of the total bankroll. If you would read the whole messages in post you would know where's the problem. We both agreed for 1.1 payment, but then they step away and started to blackmailing us. Yes I did read the messages and if what you claim is true(which I suspect it is), subSTRATA has indeed broke his promise and should report all bugs known to him for the agreed amount, but if it is not in his power to report them(as he claims) then there is nothing that can be done from his side, you should talk to dooglus and agree upon a new bounty then. We said that he gets reward if he apologizes... this is my 10 times explaining this. We will use escrow no problem. So just to clear it, has he reported all of the bugs known to him? He didn't report any of his bugs. Someone else did. But as we are so generous we will give him rewards because he discovered it. |
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siwakotisaurav
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July 06, 2015, 09:04:18 AM |
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Why don't u just pay 1 BTC for the first exploit and the second u discuss with dooglus. I mean come on u run a bitcoin casino, what u care about .4 BTC for a serious bug!
ClamCoin
Exactly if you are serious about business you should be thankful to someone who contacts you regarding a bug. No offense to crypto-games, but take a look at their bankroll, the amount strata is asking(increased,after agreeing before on 1.1btc for all the bugs), is nearly 1/30th of the total bankroll. If you would read the whole messages in post you would know where's the problem. We both agreed for 1.1 payment, but then they step away and started to blackmailing us. Yes I did read the messages and if what you claim is true(which I suspect it is), subSTRATA has indeed broke his promise and should report all bugs known to him for the agreed amount, but if it is not in his power to report them(as he claims) then there is nothing that can be done from his side, you should talk to dooglus and agree upon a new bounty then. We said that he gets reward if he apologizes... this is my 10 times explaining this. We will use escrow no problem. So just to clear it, has he reported all of the bugs known to him? He didn't report any of his bugs. Someone else did. But as we are so generous we will give him rewards because he discovered it. If thats the case then shouldn't the person who actually reported the bug get the reward? |
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ClamCoin
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July 06, 2015, 09:08:35 AM |
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Why don't u just pay 1 BTC for the first exploit and the second u discuss with dooglus. I mean come on u run a bitcoin casino, what u care about .4 BTC for a serious bug!
ClamCoin
Exactly if you are serious about business you should be thankful to someone who contacts you regarding a bug. No offense to crypto-games, but take a look at their bankroll, the amount strata is asking(increased,after agreeing before on 1.1btc for all the bugs), is nearly 1/30th of the total bankroll. If you would read the whole messages in post you would know where's the problem. We both agreed for 1.1 payment, but then they step away and started to blackmailing us. Yes I did read the messages and if what you claim is true(which I suspect it is), subSTRATA has indeed broke his promise and should report all bugs known to him for the agreed amount, but if it is not in his power to report them(as he claims) then there is nothing that can be done from his side, you should talk to dooglus and agree upon a new bounty then. We said that he gets reward if he apologizes... this is my 10 times explaining this. We will use escrow no problem. So just to clear it, has he reported all of the bugs known to him? He didn't report any of his bugs. Someone else did. But as we are so generous we will give him rewards because he discovered it. If thats the case then shouldn't the person who actually reported the bug get the reward? subSTRATA found 1 bug and dooglus 1. After subStrata found 1 he asked dooglus to confirm and dooglus found the second bug. So in total 2 bugs! |
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joter85
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July 06, 2015, 09:09:56 AM |
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Why don't u just pay 1 BTC for the first exploit and the second u discuss with dooglus. I mean come on u run a bitcoin casino, what u care about .4 BTC for a serious bug!
ClamCoin
Exactly if you are serious about business you should be thankful to someone who contacts you regarding a bug. No offense to crypto-games, but take a look at their bankroll, the amount strata is asking(increased,after agreeing before on 1.1btc for all the bugs), is nearly 1/30th of the total bankroll. If you would read the whole messages in post you would know where's the problem. We both agreed for 1.1 payment, but then they step away and started to blackmailing us. Yes I did read the messages and if what you claim is true(which I suspect it is), subSTRATA has indeed broke his promise and should report all bugs known to him for the agreed amount, but if it is not in his power to report them(as he claims) then there is nothing that can be done from his side, you should talk to dooglus and agree upon a new bounty then. We said that he gets reward if he apologizes... this is my 10 times explaining this. We will use escrow no problem. So just to clear it, has he reported all of the bugs known to him? He didn't report any of his bugs. Someone else did. But as we are so generous we will give him rewards because he discovered it. If thats the case then shouldn't the person who actually reported the bug get the reward? subSTRATA found 1 bug and dooglus 1. After subStrata found 1 he asked dooglus to confirm and dooglus found the second bug. So in total 2 bugs! And reported by third person. Haha nice. Then you decide what to do next? Everyone 1 BTC yeah .... |
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ClamCoin
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July 06, 2015, 09:10:46 AM |
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Why don't u just pay 1 BTC for the first exploit and the second u discuss with dooglus. I mean come on u run a bitcoin casino, what u care about .4 BTC for a serious bug!
ClamCoin
Exactly if you are serious about business you should be thankful to someone who contacts you regarding a bug. No offense to crypto-games, but take a look at their bankroll, the amount strata is asking(increased,after agreeing before on 1.1btc for all the bugs), is nearly 1/30th of the total bankroll. If you would read the whole messages in post you would know where's the problem. We both agreed for 1.1 payment, but then they step away and started to blackmailing us. Yes I did read the messages and if what you claim is true(which I suspect it is), subSTRATA has indeed broke his promise and should report all bugs known to him for the agreed amount, but if it is not in his power to report them(as he claims) then there is nothing that can be done from his side, you should talk to dooglus and agree upon a new bounty then. We said that he gets reward if he apologizes... this is my 10 times explaining this. We will use escrow no problem. So just to clear it, has he reported all of the bugs known to him? He didn't report any of his bugs. Someone else did. But as we are so generous we will give him rewards because he discovered it. If thats the case then shouldn't the person who actually reported the bug get the reward? subSTRATA found 1 bug and dooglus 1. After subStrata found 1 he asked dooglus to confirm and dooglus found the second bug. So in total 2 bugs! And reported by third person. Haha nice. Then you decide what to do next? Everyone 1 BTC yeah .... Lol, i didnt report any bug. |
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DogecoinMachine (OP)
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July 06, 2015, 09:10:55 AM |
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Why don't u just pay 1 BTC for the first exploit and the second u discuss with dooglus. I mean come on u run a bitcoin casino, what u care about .4 BTC for a serious bug!
ClamCoin
Exactly if you are serious about business you should be thankful to someone who contacts you regarding a bug. No offense to crypto-games, but take a look at their bankroll, the amount strata is asking(increased,after agreeing before on 1.1btc for all the bugs), is nearly 1/30th of the total bankroll. If you would read the whole messages in post you would know where's the problem. We both agreed for 1.1 payment, but then they step away and started to blackmailing us. Yes I did read the messages and if what you claim is true(which I suspect it is), subSTRATA has indeed broke his promise and should report all bugs known to him for the agreed amount, but if it is not in his power to report them(as he claims) then there is nothing that can be done from his side, you should talk to dooglus and agree upon a new bounty then. We said that he gets reward if he apologizes... this is my 10 times explaining this. We will use escrow no problem. So just to clear it, has he reported all of the bugs known to him? He didn't report any of his bugs. Someone else did. But as we are so generous we will give him rewards because he discovered it. If thats the case then shouldn't the person who actually reported the bug get the reward? subSTRATA found 1 bug and dooglus 1. After subStrata found 1 he asked dooglus to confirm and dooglus found the second bug. So in total 2 bugs! True, after going public everyone searched for this bugs because they knew something very simple is wrong. And one guy found it in 5 minutes. Hard to tell if he's the one to claim a reward... |
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sbankerdemon
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July 06, 2015, 09:11:27 AM |
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You should name that person if some third person reported it actually.
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sbankerdemon
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July 06, 2015, 09:23:39 AM |
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And are you sure those are same vulnerabilities? |
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DogecoinMachine (OP)
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July 06, 2015, 09:30:42 AM |
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And are you sure those are same vulnerabilities? Yep. |
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yoloer808
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Web dev for hire
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July 06, 2015, 09:32:29 AM |
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So how much did this entire fiasco cost investors? You should make a breakdown how much was won with a low (or negative) house edge and refund investors.
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DogecoinMachine (OP)
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July 06, 2015, 09:56:43 AM |
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So how much did this entire fiasco cost investors? You should make a breakdown how much was won with a low (or negative) house edge and refund investors.
The invest option was opended exactly 3 weeks (from the the day we offer invest option till the day we changed payout that investors don't loose funds on some payout multipliers). Most of them have really small amout of invested funds, except one guy who own 13% of bankroll. More than 85% of the bankroll are our funds. All the investors are in profit, there is and was none of them who wouldn't profit. But still, because of wrong payout and based on calculations we owe investors 0,103712 BTC. This amount will be returned to their account. |
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gerXhonza
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July 06, 2015, 10:09:23 AM |
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The dadice cheerleader/shill reports it, wonder if subSTRATA told dadice threw pm. Anyway Crypto-Games you know what they say? All publicity is good, welcome to the top of the gambling section for a few days. |
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joter85
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July 06, 2015, 10:27:54 AM |
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The dadice cheerleader/shill reports it, wonder if subSTRATA told dadice threw pm. Anyway Crypto-Games you know what they say? All publicity is good, welcome to the top of the gambling section for a few days. Have no idea what they said. Don't follow other threads so much. Me neither, as I am tired of all this. Really. If we could roll time back we would pay for that stupid bug 1,5 BTC lol. Now its becoming incident because of that 0,4BTC. Problem here is that we get so many mails with possible exploits ... and no one ever stole anything. That is why we didn't offer that much, as we were pretty sure it's nothing serious. Ok ... it was biggest bug found till now. But still site wouldn't bankrupt in a day or something, as we would patch it up if people would abuse it.... Sure we would need to take it more serious as it was confirmed by trusted members on this forum... but to be honest I don't know you guys that much, and my first thought was it can be organised scam from multiple persons, as site name wasn't mentioned at all. I thought that you maybe sent same message to all dice site owners... that was my first thought .... then we realized that it is our site. And still I was pretty sure that code is fine, as it runs ok for 1 year, and nobody exploited this bug (at least not with huge winnings). I patched it up, and they were still talking bad about our site, that it's still full of bugs. We can discuss this all year around, but one thing is sure, we don't have money to pay everyone that says he found bug, and he doesn't want to tell us about it if we don't pay. But you can be damn sure that everyone that reported bug on our support mail got reward for it. Not something huge, but more like a tip. We are grateful to all that report bugs they found, but don't like blackmailing in style "you are not in position to give terms". So if they said we want 5 BTC we probably would need to give them 5 BTC or we are not serious, and we don't take bugs serious? |
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mfaspk
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July 06, 2015, 11:47:38 AM |
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The dadice cheerleader/shill reports it, wonder if subSTRATA told dadice threw pm. Anyway Crypto-Games you know what they say? All publicity is good, welcome to the top of the gambling section for a few days. You know what I am more of a silent reader, I only came to know the name of site (just like all other people) when joter made this post himself in the thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1106133.msg11780396#msg11780396but still at the moment, "what exactly the bug is" was not revealed anywhere. However it didn't take much to realize what was wrong, and as I said before not just 1 but 2 things were wrong there causing +EV. I tested it myself and started to enjoy reading all the chat and curses going over there. While in midst of that there were many people in chat talking to kewl (if I recall correctly) but all of them were trying to cut a deal without giving up on details of bug first hand. Well at that moment, anxiety and restlessness of these guys was at its peek and I jumped it and told him what exactly the exploit is and send me the damn bounty to me instead. He told me contact him on forum via PM, by this time I had realized there is no bounty to expect from here (and honestly I didn't want one either) and in my PMs which I sent to both joter and kewl, I told them to just leave a feedback on bitcointalk. Its not just I told these clueless people what everybody in forum is talking about, but also gave them solutions. What is my fault here? |
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DogecoinMachine (OP)
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July 06, 2015, 11:53:02 AM |
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The dadice cheerleader/shill reports it, wonder if subSTRATA told dadice threw pm. Anyway Crypto-Games you know what they say? All publicity is good, welcome to the top of the gambling section for a few days. You know what I am more of a silent reader, I only came to know the name of site (just like all other people) when joter made this post himself in the thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1106133.msg11780396#msg11780396but still at the moment, "what exactly the bug is" was not revealed anywhere. However it didn't take much to realize what was wrong, and as I said before not just 1 but 2 things were wrong there causing +EV. I tested it myself and started to enjoy reading all the chat and curses going over there. While in midst of that there were many people in chat talking to kewl (if I recall correctly) but all of them were trying to cut a deal without giving up on details of bug first hand. Well at that moment, anxiety and restlessness of these guys was at its peek and I jumped it and told him what exactly the exploit is and send me the damn bounty to me instead. He told me contact me on forum, by this time I had realised there is no bounty to expect from here and in my PMs which I sent to both joter and kewl, I told them to just leave a feedback on bitcointalk. Its not just I told these clueless people what everybody in forum is talking about but also gave them solutions. What is my fault here? There's no fault from your side. We both leaved you positive trust and we are grateful for what you did. After the bug was found things got out of control. Everyone was complaining, crying, some just talked pure lies. |
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mfaspk
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July 06, 2015, 11:55:30 AM |
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The dadice cheerleader/shill reports it, wonder if subSTRATA told dadice threw pm. Anyway Crypto-Games you know what they say? All publicity is good, welcome to the top of the gambling section for a few days. You know what I am more of a silent reader, I only came to know the name of site (just like all other people) when joter made this post himself in the thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1106133.msg11780396#msg11780396but still at the moment, "what exactly the bug is" was not revealed anywhere. However it didn't take much to realize what was wrong, and as I said before not just 1 but 2 things were wrong there causing +EV. I tested it myself and started to enjoy reading all the chat and curses going over there. While in midst of that there were many people in chat talking to kewl (if I recall correctly) but all of them were trying to cut a deal without giving up on details of bug first hand. Well at that moment, anxiety and restlessness of these guys was at its peek and I jumped it and told him what exactly the exploit is and send me the damn bounty to me instead. He told me contact me on forum, by this time I had realised there is no bounty to expect from here and in my PMs which I sent to both joter and kewl, I told them to just leave a feedback on bitcointalk. Its not just I told these clueless people what everybody in forum is talking about but also gave them solutions. What is my fault here? There's no fault from your side. We both leaved you positive trust and we are grateful for what you did. After the bug was found things got out of control. Everyone was complaining, crying, some just talked pure lies. Yes that you did but I will still criticize how this whole situation was handled. |
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