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August 29, 2014, 07:33:29 PM |
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Vladimir Putin invades Ukraine, Iraq is still spiraling out of control with the ISIS Caliphate, Syria still in civil war with IISIS controlling much of Iraq and Syria, Boko Harum selling school girls as sex slaves... This is the vacuum left by the USA as they cut and run from the world scene. Yes this is the Barack Obama Foreign Policy!
This pretty much sums it up. Obama has refused to get involved in any way with most/all world conflicts, even after "red lines" have been crossed. He has also withdrawn from the existing ones that the US needs to be a part of.
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DodoB (OP)
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August 29, 2014, 08:16:36 PM |
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Vladimir Putin invades Ukraine, Iraq is still spiraling out of control with the ISIS Caliphate, Syria still in civil war with IISIS controlling much of Iraq and Syria, Boko Harum selling school girls as sex slaves... This is the vacuum left by the USA as they cut and run from the world scene. Yes this is the Barack Obama Foreign Policy!
This pretty much sums it up. Obama has refused to get involved in any way with most/all world conflicts, even after "red lines" have been crossed. He has also withdrawn from the existing ones that the US needs to be a part of. Its a good thing that Obama is not a warmonger.
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wasserman99
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August 29, 2014, 08:36:26 PM |
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Vladimir Putin invades Ukraine, Iraq is still spiraling out of control with the ISIS Caliphate, Syria still in civil war with IISIS controlling much of Iraq and Syria, Boko Harum selling school girls as sex slaves... This is the vacuum left by the USA as they cut and run from the world scene. Yes this is the Barack Obama Foreign Policy!
This pretty much sums it up. Obama has refused to get involved in any way with most/all world conflicts, even after "red lines" have been crossed. He has also withdrawn from the existing ones that the US needs to be a part of. Its a good thing that Obama is not a warmonger. I disagree. The world is now a much more dangerous place due to his inaction on international crises. Terrorist organizations have been able to proliferate and are more likely able to pull off a major terrorist attack thanks to his foreign policy.
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Paya
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August 29, 2014, 09:03:02 PM |
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The world is now a much more dangerous place due to his inaction on international crises. Terrorist organizations have been able to proliferate and are more likely able to pull off a major terrorist attack thanks to his foreign policy.
It should be noted that some of the most dangerous terrorist organizations today were born, or are delayed product of times when your former presidents were more "active". Please stop being active.
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wasserman99
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August 30, 2014, 01:16:04 AM |
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The world is now a much more dangerous place due to his inaction on international crises. Terrorist organizations have been able to proliferate and are more likely able to pull off a major terrorist attack thanks to his foreign policy.
It should be noted that some of the most dangerous terrorist organizations today were born, or are delayed product of times when your former presidents were more "active". Please stop being active. How do you reach that conclusion? When Bush was president al-quaita was powerful and controlled a country (afghanistan) and then some. Bush was able to essentially dismantle al-quaita, if you are implying that ISIS is a "child" organization of al-quaita then I do not have any evidence to dispute that (although I do not know how accurate it is), but regardless ISIS is much weaker then al0quaia ever was.
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August 30, 2014, 01:18:33 AM |
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hope the world can be peaceful and there would be no wars
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Watoshi-Dimobuto
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August 30, 2014, 01:26:16 AM |
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hope the world can be peaceful and there would be no wars
War cannot be totally eradicated, War is a human instinct. Let's just hope they will not use nuclear weapons.
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August 30, 2014, 03:40:42 AM |
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DodoB (OP)
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August 30, 2014, 12:20:45 PM |
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Vladimir Putin invades Ukraine, Iraq is still spiraling out of control with the ISIS Caliphate, Syria still in civil war with IISIS controlling much of Iraq and Syria, Boko Harum selling school girls as sex slaves... This is the vacuum left by the USA as they cut and run from the world scene. Yes this is the Barack Obama Foreign Policy!
This pretty much sums it up. Obama has refused to get involved in any way with most/all world conflicts, even after "red lines" have been crossed. He has also withdrawn from the existing ones that the US needs to be a part of. Its a good thing that Obama is not a warmonger. I disagree. The world is now a much more dangerous place due to his inaction on international crises. Terrorist organizations have been able to proliferate and are more likely able to pull off a major terrorist attack thanks to his foreign policy. Getting involved in Russia in Iraq will not solve anything but will make things worse.
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August 31, 2014, 04:45:33 PM |
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I think the Russians help their people in Ukraine
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August 31, 2014, 10:31:31 PM |
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Whoop de fucking do. What the hell is the west going to do? Try to implement actions which are meant to inflict long term pain on Russia (ie sanctions) while trying to achieve the sharp pain to make Putin rethink his plan? While some might argue sanctions are working, I would argue that Russia only understands the kind of strength that gunpowder and fighter jets bring. As some of you might remember, this isn't the first time mother russia did this. Georgia anyone?
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Balthazar
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August 31, 2014, 11:25:31 PM |
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As some of you might remember, this isn't the first time mother russia did this. Georgia anyone?
As some of you might remember, this isn't the first time when someone is bullshitting. In case if you don't have a clue about this, try to read something related to your subject. http://www.ceiig.ch/Report.htmlThe second volume, especially. While some might argue sanctions are working, I would argue that Russia only understands the kind of strength that gunpowder and fighter jets bring.
Is it right that you will be one of these pilots, or you prefer to be a part of infantry?
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September 01, 2014, 07:25:01 AM |
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this isn't the first time the West did this to mother russia did this.
Fixed it for you. You know the consequences of invading Russia - you'll be chased out and chased back all the way to your layer. Saakashvilian (an arrest warrant on him has been issued to Interpol now, by the way) Georgian troops have experienced it first hand, when they invaded South Ossetia, which was under Russian protection.
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“Dark times lie ahead of us and there will be a time when we must choose between what is easy and what is right.” “We are only as strong as we are united, as weak as we are divided.” “It is important to fight and fight again, and keep fighting, for only then can evil be kept at bay, though never quite eradicated.”
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Technologov
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September 01, 2014, 09:58:03 AM Last edit: September 01, 2014, 10:08:12 AM by Technologov |
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I think Putler (Putin, that behaves like Hitler), must be STOPPED at all costs ! Putler is to blame ! Aggressor in the 21st century has no place in the world !
I have started a donations campaign, and will donate myself also to Ukrainian soldiers !
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September 01, 2014, 10:09:28 AM |
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I think Putler (Putin, that behaves like Hitler), must be STOPPED at all costs ! Putler is to blame ! Aggressor in the 21st century has no place in the world !
I have started a donations campaign, and will donate myself also to Ukrainian soldiers !
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“Dark times lie ahead of us and there will be a time when we must choose between what is easy and what is right.” “We are only as strong as we are united, as weak as we are divided.” “It is important to fight and fight again, and keep fighting, for only then can evil be kept at bay, though never quite eradicated.”
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September 01, 2014, 08:44:37 PM |
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I think Putler (Putin, that behaves like Hitler), must be STOPPED at all costs ! Putler is to blame ! Aggressor in the 21st century has no place in the world !
I have started a donations campaign, and will donate myself also to Ukrainian soldiers !
Putler, you said? Certainly gave me a good laugh. ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) Well, Putler said he could occupy Kiev in 2 weeks and I believe he is right (maybe 3-4 weeks because of logistics issues). So far this is not a full scale invasion, but an incursion meant to weaken the Ukraine troops and strengthen the rebels. The best strategy for the West would be to assist Ukraine with weapons that can be used with little training, and help incur large losses on Russian troops. At some point, the price would be too high for Putin to continue the aggression. But such a strategy won't be supported by the commie muslim Obummer and stasikanzlerin Merkel. So in the end I believe Putin will get what he wants, a new state of Novorossiya (the East and South of Ukraine), that will join the Russian Federation and strengthen his case for the rebirth of the Soviet Union.
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September 01, 2014, 09:01:32 PM Last edit: September 01, 2014, 09:45:23 PM by Balthazar |
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Well, Putler said he could occupy Kiev in 2 weeks and I believe he is right (maybe 3-4 weeks because of logistics issues).
I think that Putin simply didn't want to frighten the public... Because in fact, it's not quite true and only idiots in Kiev or NATO would be able to consider an idea of invasion from the east as some kind of optimal way. There are enough troops in Belarus, they're much closer to Kiev and there is no need to use additional forces. In case of real invasion, everything would began from northern part of Ukraine and occupation of Kiev would be a matter of 48-96 hours. Kiev isn't under occupation now and Poroshenko didn't shoot himself yet. Yatsenyuk didn't poisoned himself with sodium cyanide and still appears on the TV... Taking these facts into account, it's safe to bet that there is no invasion. But, maybe, there are hallucinations.
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September 01, 2014, 10:33:29 PM |
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