Cryptonote Technology Coins - General Discussion Thread

[J1mb0]

https://cryptonote.org/

Untraceable payments

CryptoNote provides users with a completely anonymous payment scheme. CryptoNote implements the ring signature technology which allows you to sign a message on behalf of a group. The signature only proves the message was created by someone from the group, but all the possible signers are indistinguishable from each other.

Unlinkable transactions

Even if outgoing transactions are untraceable, everyone may still be able to see the payments you have received and thus determine your income. However, by using a variation of the Diffie-Hellman exchange protocol, a receiver has multiple unique one-time addresses derived from his single public key. After funds are sent to these addresses they can only be redeemed by the receiver; and it would be impossible to cross-link these payments.

List of Cryptonote Coins

Aeon (AEON)

http://www.aeoncoin.net/

Max Supply: 18.4 million

Block Time: 60s

Launched: June 6, 2014

Boolberry (BBR)

http://boolberry.org/

Max Supply: 18.4 million

Block Time: 120s

Major changes/enhancements from CryptoNote Reference: GUI Wallet* (*Not thought to be release grade, yet)

Launched: April 20, 2014

Bytecoin (BCN)

http://bytecoin.org/

Max Supply: 184.5 billion

Block Time: 120s

Launched: July 4, 2012* (*Claimed but disputed)

Dashcoin (DSH)

http://dashcoin.net/

Max Supply: 184.5 billion

Block Time: 120s

Launched: July 5, 2014

DiamondBack (DBK)

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=741340.0

Max Supply: 1.04 million

Block Time: 384s

Launched: August 16, 2014

Dosh (DOSH)

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=734295.0

Max Supply: 184.5 million

Block Time: 192s

Launched: August 11, 2014

duckNote (XDN)

http://ducknote.org/

Max Supply: 8.5 billion

Block Time: 240s

Launched: May 30, 2014

Fantomcoin (FCN)

http://fantomcoin.org/

Max Supply: Infinite

Block Time: 60s

Launched: May 21, 2014

Infinium-8 (INF8)

https://forum.cryptonote.org/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=242

Max Supply: Infinite

Block Time: 90s

Launched: July 17, 2014

KrakenToken (KKN)

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=750370.0

Max Supply: 10 million

Block Time: 60s

Major changes/enhancements from CryptoNote Reference: POS (15%pa)

Launched: August 29, 2014 (40% IPO)

Monero (XMR)

http://monero.cc/

Max Supply: 18.4 million

Block Time: 60s

Launched: April 25, 2014* (*BitMonero launched April 9, 2014)

MonetaVerde (MCN)

http://monetaverde.org/

Max Supply: Infinite

Block Time: 60s

Launched: June 15, 2014

MountCoin (MNT)

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=658072.0

Max Supply: 18.4 million

Block Time: 25s

Confirmations: 60 blocks

Launched: June 19, 2014

OneEvilCoin (OEC)

http://oneevilcoin.org/

Max Supply: 8.3 million

Block Time: 60s

Launched: July 14, 2014

Quazarcoin (QCN)

http://quazarcoin.org/

Max Supply: 18.4 million

Block Time: 120s

Launched: May 21, 2014

SilverBack (SBK)

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=741346.0;all

Max Supply: 1.07 billion

Block Time: 192s

Launched: August 7, 2014

[J1mb0]

https://cryptonote.org/

CryptoNote provides users with a completely anonymous payment scheme. CryptoNote implements the ring signature technology which allows you to sign a message on behalf of a group. The signature only proves the message was created by someone from the group, but all the possible signers are indistinguishable from each other.

Even if outgoing transactions are untraceable, everyone may still be able to see the payments you have received and thus determine your income. However, by using a variation of the Diffie-Hellman exchange protocol, a receiver has multiple unique one-time addresses derived from his single public key. After funds are sent to these addresses they can only be redeemed by the receiver; and it would be impossible to cross-link these payments.

Aeon (AEON)

http://www.aeoncoin.net/

Max Supply: 18.4 million

Block Time: 60s

Launched: June 6, 2014

Boolberry (BBR)

http://boolberry.org/

Max Supply: 18.4 million

Block Time: 120s

Launched: April 20, 2014

Bytecoin (BCN)

http://bytecoin.org/

Max Supply: 184.5 billion

Block Time: 120s

Launched: July 4, 2012* (*Claimed but disputed)

Dashcoin (DSH)

http://dashcoin.net/

Max Supply: 184.5 billion

Block Time: 120s

Launched: July 5, 2014

DiamondBack (DBK)

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=741340.0

Max Supply: 1.04 million

Block Time: 384s

Launched: August 16, 2014

Dosh (DOSH)

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=734295.0

Max Supply: 184.5 million

Block Time: 192s

Launched: August 11, 2014

DuckNote (XDN)

http://ducknote.org/

Max Supply: 8.5 billion

Block Time: 240s

Launched: May 30, 2014

Fantomcoin (FCN)

http://fantomcoin.org/

Max Supply: Infinite

Block Time: 60s

Launched: May 21, 2014

Infinium-8 (INF8)

https://forum.cryptonote.org/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=242

Max Supply: Infinite

Block Time: 90s

Launched: July 17, 2014

Monero (XMR)

http://monero.cc/

Max Supply: 18.4 million

Block Time: 60s

Launched: April 25, 2014* (*BitMonero launched April 9, 2014)

MonetaVerde (MCN)

http://monetaverde.org/

Max Supply: Infinite

Block Time: 60s

Launched: June 15, 2014

MountCoin (MNT)

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=658072.0

Max Supply: 18.4 million

Block Time: 25s

Confirmations: 60 blocks

Launched: June 19, 2014

OneEvilCoin (OEC)

http://oneevilcoin.org/

Max Supply: 8.3 million

Block Time: 60s

Launched: July 14, 2014

SilverBack (SBK)

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=741346.0;all

Max Supply: 1.07 billion

Block Time: 192s

Launched: August 7, 2014

Quazarcoin (QCN)

http://quazarcoin.org/

Max Supply: 18.4 million

Block Time: 120s

Launched: May 21, 2014

We either;

Choose to carry on living in a serfdom where the rule of law is arbitrary between the Common Person and the Billionaire or Multi-national Corporation.

or

Claim our freedom by using Cryptonote technology which gives every person the same tools to manage their financial and tax affairs

Please jump on the thread with your mining, investment and technical observations. Also any ideas for future development.

Thanks to TC for the more graphical list - he will be normalising the images shortly - I would hate to start a flame war because some coins have bigger graphics! 

[glerant]

I am curious as to how the merged mining work with the Cryptonote coins.

Are all the merge mined coins infinite total supply - has that got something to do with the merged mining?

[gjhiggins]

Useful list, thanks for collating it.

Does “max supply” and “block time” basically cover the major difference between these cryptonote coins?

Only, I've been collecting metadata, basically sticking to what is typically published (when coin data is published in full). Here's a paste of the python dict that I use:

Code:

dict(name="", slug="", symbol="",
     date_founded="2014-08-00", incept="2014-08", thread=".0",
     protocol="bitcoin",
     protectionscheme="pow",
     distributionscheme="pow",
     powscheme="",
     description="",
     total_coins=1000000,
     block_time=60,
     confirmations=None,
     maturation=None,
     block_reward=None,
     retarget_time=None,
     diff_adjustment=None,
     premine=None,
     website=None,
     source=None,
     ),

Some of these categories must be specific to the bitcoin protocol because they're never mentioned in [ANN]s for coins using the Cryptonote protocol.

I'm looking for 2nd gen correlates to this metadata --- you seem to have a good grip on the tech and as I haven't managed so far to make a single successful translation of the patter in any of the 2gen info sheets, do you have any pointers as to what other features could be used to characterise these different coins?

Cheers

Graham

[J1mb0]

Useful list, thanks for collating it.

Thanks!

Does “max supply” and “block time” basically cover the major difference between these cryptonote coins?

Pretty much, for now. Most coins are direct clones of ByteCoin/CryptoNote Reference Coin. The main difference to date is merge mined coins or straight POW coins.
Monero, since it was taken over by new devs, has had some work done 'under the hood'. Not that regular users would notice much difference. Boolberry has a GUI wallet - however I could not get mine to run under Linux.

Some of these categories must be specific to the bitcoin protocol because they're never mentioned in [ANN]s for coins using the Cryptonote protocol.

Retarget and diff adjustment is always 1 - because (I think) all of them adjust diff every block. Confirmation time depends on block time and number of blocks before a transaction is confirmed - just as with BTC/LTC.

I'm looking for 2nd gen correlates to this metadata --- you seem to have a good grip on the tech and as I haven't managed so far to make a single successful translation of the patter in any of the 2gen info sheets, do you have any pointers as to what other features could be used to characterise these different coins?

Anyone else have any suggestions on the above?

[gjhiggins]

Most coins are direct clones of ByteCoin/CryptoNote Reference Coin. The main difference to date is merge mined coins or straight POW coins.

[...]

Retarget and diff adjustment is always 1 - because (I think) all of them adjust diff every block. Confirmation time depends on block time and number of blocks before a transaction is confirmed - just as with BTC/LTC.

Thanks for the characterisation, you saved me several hours of cross-checking.

Cheers

Graham

[J1mb0]

I am trying out DashCoin - no issues or problems whatsoever on Linux.
http://dashcoin.net/

I'm mining on Extreme and it's doing great with 8 of my cores. Minerd (multi) on Linux


I am also trying out SilverBack
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=741346.0;all

I couldn't find any Linux binaries - installed the deps but couldn't compile it.
Currently have it running on Windows 8 - again mining on Extreme 4 cores - good results! Minerd (multi) on Linux

Who is mining what in the cryptonote world? What miners are you using or are you solo?

[J1mb0]

Added MountCoin to the 1st post.

Have I missed any? 

[GogglesPisano]

I'm not so sure about these Cryptonote coins. Bitcoin can be made pretty anonymous if need be., These serve a very small niche market but I don't see any of them gaining widespread acceptance.

[gjhiggins]

Added MountCoin to the 1st post.

Have I missed any? 

Personally, I find it hard to tell from the OP whether KrakenToken would fall into your category but it does employ CryptoNote tech ...

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=750370.0

Cheers

Graham

[J1mb0]

I find it hard to tell from the OP whether KrakenToken would fall into your category but it does employ CryptoNote tech ...

Many, thanks! It most certainly does. I added it to the list.  

Interesting coin - however I missed the IPO. 
It didn't give an awfully long time!

[JohnD]

I'm not so sure about these Cryptonote coins. Bitcoin can be made pretty anonymous if need be., These serve a very small niche market but I don't see any of them gaining widespread acceptance.

I am pretty sure that Bitcoin has a heavy privacy issue (Big Data) and that is why an Anon Coin is needed.

[djarot]

yes, brilliant! it would be great to have somewhere where general improvements and innovations etc are discussed and are easily visible, will save me a lot of effort! many thanks....

[J1mb0]

Not sure if it would help, but here's a few CN sites. Maybe they could be added to the list, just an idea & i'll PM J1mb0 again with them to be added to the OP.
MinerGate

ChainRadar

Great, Thanks! 

I'll add them to the list.

[griffinriz]

XMR and BBR are just worth attention.

[gjhiggins]

Have I missed any?  

KrakenToken https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=750370.0

I wish I hadn't mentioned it now. A not-so-cursory second glance reveals some tell-tale warning signs, not the least of which is the grammar/spelling step change in the OP's post history (sigh). None of the mentioned names/handles of the team resolve.

ICO raised 0.00000000 BTC, OP fell silent on 25th, the planned launch of 29th didn't happen.


Cheers

Graham

[gjhiggins]

Maybe I can make up for it by bringing your attention to CherryNote:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=695608.0;all


Cheers

Graham

[CryptoBang]

Hey guys. Take a look at my new article about Boolberry. I am sure, you will find interesting facts there. Boolberry can be much more stronger as i think.  Grin

http://www.cryptobang.com/2014/09/17/boolberry-what-is-that/

[Lamalicious]

Wow! There are a lot of CryptoNote coins.