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December 27, 2017, 10:28:34 AM
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WTS large quantity of supernet at NAV price. Escrow accepted. PM me.

try using bdex.
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December 31, 2017, 04:49:03 AM
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Zero footprint 2-way replay protection

Last year I was invited to the bitcoin fork slack and the need for 2-way replay protection was made pretty clear by the ETC release that didnt have replay protection.

I wanted to come up with a method that was efficient and easy to implement and I believe I suceeded. Last summer, I made a post to steemit about it:

https://steemit.com/bitcoin/@jl777/bitcoin-spinoff-fork-how-to-make-a-clean-fork-without-any-replay-attack-and-no-blockchain-visible-changes

BCH had a different method that increased the txsize in parallel with the sighash_forkid method for a while, where it was optional. But in the end they decided to require the sighash_forkid. Their implementation added a twist to it by using segwit non-malleable signatures for the forkid path, but the concept is the same.

The key idea is quite simple. In order to make 2-way replay protection work, the signature for the new fork is made incompatible for any other fork. Since the signature is not compatible, it will also reject valid signatures from other forks.

The way to achieve this requires to understand a bit about the bitcoin signing internals. Actually, just one thing. The signature doesnt actually sign the raw tx bytes, but rather a 256-bit hash. this hash is created based on the rawtx, but it is converted in complex ways. however, it isnt needed to understand the exact conversions, just that the hash is unique for the rawtx. My sighash_forkid method changes some bytes in the data that generates the hash based solely on what blockchain it is coming from.

It is like adding a brandname to the prehash data and this allows the creation of 2-way replay protection, but actually it is far more, it is 2-way protection against all prior forks!

Now the BCH code is out there, BTG gold was able to implement it with just adding a BTG specific forkid #define. SBTC made a string concatenation of "sbtc" to the prehash data to the original signing path and would be the simplest to emulate.

For barterDEX, I want to support as many bitcoin forks as possible and if they are providing 2-way replay protection we will do our best to add support. However, if the tx format is bloated and some additional output or opcode is needed (for every tx!) to avoid replay protection, this is an unfortunate choice as it not only bloats the blockchain with every tx for something that didnt have to, it also wont be compatible with barterDEX atomic swap code.

If in doubt as to what magic values to use, a bitcoin fork project can contact us as we will necessarily be monitoring and maintaining a bitcoin fork compatibility list. Also, I believe the days of simple btc clone forks having much value will be coming to an end. just like altcoins used to just be pure clones without any unique new features and it was sufficient, but nowadays an altcoin must have its own unique features, so it will be for bitcoin forks.

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January 03, 2018, 12:10:02 AM
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I know that you mentioned you don't think it'd be good to allow the NAV to be cashed out. I do think someday it will trade above NAV due to revshares, but in the mean time I wish there was a way to get the market for it to be more liquid on Barterdex with a buy wall without hurting the underlying asset.

It would not make much sense at this point in the game for SuperNET to hold itself because it doesn't have much intrinsic value as it does not have a function besides future possible revenue streams (and the price will reflect these revenue streams if/when they come into fruition). So I do understand why you don't want to set a buy wall at this point in time. If the market was more liquid I do think it would be around the NAV without any revenue streams.

I guess what I am asking is if you have any ideas besides revenue streams to peg more interest in SuperNET. The only idea I have is to market the hell out of SuperNET when your marketers decide to campaign for Barterdex. Market it hard as an unofficial ETF that follows a decent handful of hand-picked cryptos because THAT is really what is awesome about SuperNET. SuperNET is the closest thing available today for an ETF for crypto. I love the idea above avoiding single-stock risk with SuperNET. We all know the crypto market is going to keep speculating and by holding a basket of cryptos, we're protecting ourself and still getting great gains.
I am making active and realtime updated market for all of SuperNET coins:

{"result":"success","base":"REVS","rel":"KMD","timestamp":1513877084,"bid":0.73010298,"ask":0.75952394,"price":0.74481346}
{"result":"success","base":"CHIPS","rel":"KMD","timestamp":1513877084,"bid":0.02949181,"ask":0.03008459,"price":0.02978820}
{"result":"success","base":"KMD","rel":"BTC","timestamp":1513877084,"bid":0.00066129,"ask":0.00067458,"price":0.00066794}
{"result":"success","base":"SUPERNET","rel":"KMD","timestamp":1513877084,"bid":21.98133284,"ask":29.36230716,"price":25.67182000}
{"result":"success","base":"CRYPTO","rel":"KMD","timestamp":1513877084,"bid":3.89388159,"ask":4.05079434,"price":3.97233797}
{"result":"success","base":"DEX","rel":"KMD","timestamp":1513877084,"bid":2.19030894,"ask":2.28085267,"price":2.23558081}
{"result":"success","base":"BOTS","rel":"KMD","timestamp":1513877084,"bid":1.46020596,"ask":1.51904788,"price":1.48962692}
{"result":"success","base":"BET","rel":"KMD","timestamp":1513877084,"bid":0.73010298,"ask":0.75952394,"price":0.74481346}
{"result":"success","base":"HODL","rel":"KMD","timestamp":1513877084,"bid":0.19098087,"ask":0.19482329,"price":0.19290208}
{"result":"success","base":"MSHARK","rel":"KMD","timestamp":1513877084,"bid":4.51291080,"ask":4.82780464,"price":4.67035772}
{"result":"success","base":"MGW","rel":"KMD","timestamp":1513877084,"bid":0.21903089,"ask":0.22787997,"price":0.22345543}
{"result":"success","base":"PANGEA","rel":"KMD","timestamp":1513877084,"bid":1.46020596,"ask":1.51904788,"price":1.48962692}
{"result":"success","base":"JUMBLR","rel":"KMD","timestamp":1513877084,"bid":2.92041192,"ask":3.03809576,"price":2.97925384}

Not sure why you think there isnt a market for them right now.

Also, I am working now on creating multimillion dollar per year cashflows, which are virtually all profit that will go to revshares.

I wont stop others from marketing this, but I am not a marketer. I am primarily a C coder, but also do some financial engineering when needed. I constructed the SuperNET framework years ago and it hasnt changed since then. Still completing that initial construction.

Maybe when I am finished and all the parts are working as they should (generating healthy revshares) and if it is still trading around or below NAV, I will do something about it.

Somehow I doubt a crypto with a healthy balanced portfolio, track record of 100x, and $10+ per coin will have a hard time to achieve a PE of more than 30.

If you cannot wait for the few more years this will all take, then there is a buy wall at the crypto NAV, sell wall at the assetNAV



Hi

I have some amounts of these assets on the Next AE, how do i get them into the new format. Apologies for not following closely.

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January 03, 2018, 06:14:22 AM
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Holy cow, is that another NXT asset I will be not awarded for long hodling?
Not everyone is checking forum regularly, what about 2nd distribution at the end of transfer window?

assets left on NXT wont be eligible for any revshares

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January 03, 2018, 07:56:02 AM
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Holy cow, is that another NXT asset I will be not awarded for long hodling?
Not everyone is checking forum regularly, what about 2nd distribution at the end of transfer window?

assets left on NXT wont be eligible for any revshares
there has been 3 distributions so far
should be several more before March 1st
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January 03, 2018, 12:26:07 PM
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Holy cow, is that another NXT asset I will be not awarded for long hodling?
Not everyone is checking forum regularly, what about 2nd distribution at the end of transfer window?

assets left on NXT wont be eligible for any revshares
there has been 3 distributions so far
should be several more before March 1st


You mean "dividend" distribution? Mmmm, cannot wait, thanks! Smiley

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January 04, 2018, 12:45:59 PM
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I bought Supernet (Asset Id: 12071612744977229797)
sent it to NXT-MRBN-8DFH-PFMK-A4DBM
with permanent msg attached of my Agama (kmd) wallet  RSN...xxx...jyC

Anything else I have to do? Add supernet coin? (activate coin)

Or am I set and ready to go? Smiley

Greetings
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January 04, 2018, 01:33:03 PM
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I bought Supernet (Asset Id: 12071612744977229797)
sent it to NXT-MRBN-8DFH-PFMK-A4DBM
with permanent msg attached of my Agama (kmd) wallet  RSN...xxx...jyC

Anything else I have to do? Add supernet coin? (activate coin)

Or am I set and ready to go? Smiley

Greetings
need to wait for next payout
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January 04, 2018, 02:16:52 PM
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I bought Supernet (Asset Id: 12071612744977229797)
sent it to NXT-MRBN-8DFH-PFMK-A4DBM
with permanent msg attached of my Agama (kmd) wallet  RSN...xxx...jyC

Anything else I have to do? Add supernet coin? (activate coin)

Or am I set and ready to go? Smiley

Greetings
need to wait for next payout

I know, I'm late for the party, just wanted to make sure I did everything right, tutorials are pretty rare.

Greetings
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January 05, 2018, 09:03:45 AM
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I bought Supernet (Asset Id: 12071612744977229797)
sent it to NXT-MRBN-8DFH-PFMK-A4DBM
with permanent msg attached of my Agama (kmd) wallet  RSN...xxx...jyC

Anything else I have to do? Add supernet coin? (activate coin)

Or am I set and ready to go? Smiley

Greetings
need to wait for next payout

Accidently sent round 860 IndexRev to the account.
Details:

 
Signature:   f0f1dec253cbbfa55573031706200ffcdc2bd050617752c01e182da1ec02140d6b32b4801a163ae e63e83d8eabbb1c5b513bd7165593c43d73b1872cbefb3e52
Transaction Index:   0
Type:   2
Phased:   false
EC Block Id:   9480412937028629966
Signature Hash:   a7c42d743ec1dc8bcd9cb5358ba9d7c5def232bc45b1b4aca3d1290e289cd83a
Sender RS:   You
Subtype:   1


Not sure if I ever received dividends, but I would like these back or credited or whatever you are intending for these assets, please.

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January 07, 2018, 02:19:34 AM
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BTCH will be airdropped to SUPERNET and DEX hodlers: https://twitter.com/dukeleto/status/949766583831822336

yes, I will do another NXT migration right before the airdrop on Jan 16th. Considering the market price of the other BTC forks, this could be quite a significant percentage value
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January 07, 2018, 11:29:18 PM
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BTCH will be airdropped to SUPERNET and DEX hodlers: https://twitter.com/dukeleto/status/949766583831822336

yes, I will do another NXT migration right before the airdrop on Jan 16th. Considering the market price of the other BTC forks, this could be quite a significant percentage value

Can someone explain me if I have to do something? (Other than have sent the supernet to the nxt account with providing kmd adress?) There is no such coin as BTCH in the Komodo wallet I could add. Or do I receive kmd coins for that airdrop? Sorry for the beginner questions Wink
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January 09, 2018, 05:06:46 PM
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BTCH will be airdropped to SUPERNET and DEX hodlers: https://twitter.com/dukeleto/status/949766583831822336

yes, I will do another NXT migration right before the airdrop on Jan 16th. Considering the market price of the other BTC forks, this could be quite a significant percentage value

Can someone explain me if I have to do something? (Other than have sent the supernet to the nxt account with providing kmd adress?) There is no such coin as BTCH in the Komodo wallet I could add. Or do I receive kmd coins for that airdrop? Sorry for the beginner questions Wink
that is all you need to do, other than wait
wallets are being updated to support BTCH
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January 10, 2018, 11:13:50 AM
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Is it possible to see the Supernet Balance in the Agama wallet yet ?
Or just on this page : http://supernet.explorer.supernet.org

When will be the next distribution approx?

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January 10, 2018, 01:02:13 PM
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Is it possible to see the Supernet Balance in the Agama wallet yet ?
Or just on this page : http://supernet.explorer.supernet.org

When will be the next distribution approx?

yes
activate SUPERNET via SPV
or if using native, importprivkey

jan 15th
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January 12, 2018, 04:27:49 AM
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The volume of the coin is not very large, but I do not know why the price varies considerably within a few days, and this is a prudent transaction.
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January 12, 2018, 09:38:44 AM
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Is there any website to track barterdex transactions and live prices? On CMC SuperNet is only shown as listed on the NXT exchange still...
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January 12, 2018, 09:39:37 AM
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Is there any website to track barterdex transactions and live prices? On CMC SuperNet is only shown as listed on the NXT exchange still...

http://www.dexstats.info/
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January 12, 2018, 10:06:34 AM
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Is there any website to track barterdex transactions and live prices? On CMC SuperNet is only shown as listed on the NXT exchange still...

http://www.dexstats.info/
dexcharts.com
atomicexplorer.com
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January 16, 2018, 05:44:23 AM
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with BTCH snapshot delayed to Feb 1st, I will do the next asset transfers on Feb 1st

since the redeems are much slowed, after the Feb 1st there will be one last one on March 1st

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