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September 01, 2014, 06:07:10 PM
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The fateful seconds before nine-year-old girl accidentally shot her gun instructor dead with an Uzi: Video of child losing control of submachine gun after being told to go 'full auto' released by cops.

* Charles Vacca, a father and army veteran, was assisting the little girl at a shooting range just south of Las Vegas on Monday morning

* She pulled the trigger of an automatic Uzi and the recoil sent the gun over her head, shooting Vacca

* He was airlifted to hospital but died on Monday evening

* Girl was with her parents at Bullets and Burgers shooting range on vacation from New Jersey

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Q8tW0btnis

Recorded at the Bullets and Burgers shooting range in White Hills, Arizona, an edited clip plays up to the point where the girl loses control of an Uzi, killing 39-year-old Charles Vacca.

The shocking recording taken by the girl's parents and released by police shows Vacca standing closely next to the girl when the gun recoiled as she fired on full automatic mode.

As the clip unfolds, Vacca is seen to instruct the girl to hold the weapon with two hands at all times and to take a perpendicular stance to the target.

Then Vacca asks her to fire one shot for him, which she does.

Then, Vacca tells the girl to adjust her stance and squeeze the trigger to let off a volley, but something goes wrong when she fires a second time.

His last words to the girl are: 'Alright, full auto.'

The girl loses her two-handed grip on the weapon and it pulls to her left, striking Vacca in the head.

Charles Vacca, a father and veteran from Lake Havasu City, Arizona, was airlifted to hospital on Monday morning after the little girl shot him but died that evening.

Mohave County Sheriff Jim McCabe said the full video of the incident was 'ghastly'.

Social media was incredulous about the tragic accident, with most people posting comments as to why a nine-year-old was allowed to fire an automatic weapon.

Liz Matthews of the John Clayton Show on 710 ESPN in Seattle said, 'A story involving a nine-year-old shooting an UZI at a place called Burgers and Bullets would have been appalling enough. Horrifying.'

Nikki Bateman simply asked, 'why you'd even let a nine year old handle a gun in the first place?!'

Cameron Atfield directed his anger at the parents stating he 'hoped the parents are charged.'

Friends paid tribute to Vacca, an army veteran and a married father, as a great friend and soldier on Facebook. Best friend Robert Vera said they often laughed so much that they couldn't breathe.

'He became a brother and a major part of my life through thick and thin,' Vera said. 'Rest In Peace brother.'

The incident occurred at the Arizona Last Stop, which is about 25 miles south of Las Vegas, the Mohave County Sheriff's Office told AZFamily. It is home to a shooting range, Bullets and Burgers.

'Our guests have the opportunity to fire a wide range of fully automatic machine guns and specialty weapons,' its website states. 'At our range, you can shoot FULL auto on our machine guns. Let 'em Rip!'

When contacted by MailOnline, staff at Bullets and Burgers would not comment on the incident and referred questions to a nearby gun emporium, but would not say whether or not they were affiliated.

Arizona gun laws require a person to be at least 18 years old to carry a firearm, but the laws do not apply on private property or if the minor is accompanied by a parent or a certified instructor.


Should young girls in wild hot and not fully developed areas of the globe like africa, america and the middle east be allowed the chance to blow the heads off blokes with uzis ?

Also, noting another incident of a dog shooting his owner last year, should animals like cats and dogs also be legislated against from handling machine guns even when chaperoned on firing ranges or in the back yards of their owners ?

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September 01, 2014, 06:15:10 PM
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Very unlucky accident i feel bad for the guy and worse for the girl tbh.  I guess it was pretty stupid to be teaching a girl this weak to fire a gun like that.  Imagine how the girl is going to feel throughout her life? would not want to be her.
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September 01, 2014, 06:28:26 PM
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i don't know exactly where i fall on the gun issue, but this is the pitfall of the "the more guns you have, the better" logic. reality is, the more guns you have, the more gun accidents you will see.
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September 01, 2014, 06:35:29 PM
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This is just pure stupidity, while guns are what caused this the reality is that instructor was a moron letting a 9 year old handle a fucking machine gun, you go to any instructor who has any sense I'd bet the least they'd do is say you'd have to be stupid to let children that young handle weaponry. The problem is this is a classic case of people, namely Americans, being so stupid and arrogant they refuse to accept that like with many problems they cause throughout the world that it's their stupid actions that cause the problem in the first place.

The issue is never the fault of an inanimate object, it's the fault of the person who was dumb enough to let people who shouldn't handle this sort of thing in the first place, you wouldn't let a child fuck around with a gas cylinder/blow torch would you? Or some kind of heavy machinery that can cut stuff.
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September 01, 2014, 06:46:09 PM
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It all boils down to a person this young not having the strength to handle such a weapon, let alone an automatic one. As soon as the trigger is pulled the gun just starts spraying upwards or sideways and certainly no young girl could handle it. A .22 cal is the only gun this person should've been allowed to practice on. This is just common sense.
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September 01, 2014, 06:47:51 PM
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This is just pure stupidity, while guns are what caused this the reality is that instructor was a moron letting a 9 year old handle a fucking machine gun, you go to any instructor who has any sense I'd bet the least they'd do is say you'd have to be stupid to let children that young handle weaponry. The problem is this is a classic case of people, namely Americans, being so stupid and arrogant they refuse to accept that like with many problems they cause throughout the world that it's their stupid actions that cause the problem in the first place.

The issue is never the fault of an inanimate object, it's the fault of the person who was dumb enough to let people who shouldn't handle this sort of thing in the first place, you wouldn't let a child fuck around with a gas cylinder/blow torch would you? Or some kind of heavy machinery that can cut stuff.
I agree. This is the instructor's fault for letting the little child handle a gun that has that much force. It very well could have been herself that got shot.
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September 01, 2014, 07:03:21 PM
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Sad fact is it did actually happen to another kid, of course, guns were blamed, not the morons that let him use it and so history repeats.
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September 01, 2014, 08:13:01 PM
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Now, that's a great family vacation video, such good parenting...

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September 01, 2014, 08:46:24 PM
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Now, that's a great family vacation video, such good parenting...
I wouldn't blame the parents so much. Yes, it is not appropriate to have a 9 year old shooting a gun, however the instructor should have known just how much recoil the gun would have when compared to the average strength of someone this small. 
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September 01, 2014, 08:49:50 PM
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If Charles Vacca wanted to commit suicide, he shouldn't have gotten the girl involved.

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September 01, 2014, 08:50:42 PM
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I liked how the family of the dead man reacted and reached out to the girl. Clearly stating they do not blame her at all.

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September 01, 2014, 08:56:22 PM
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This is indeed a tragedy. But a nine year old girl should not be allowed to handle a gun anyway. It is sad that the girl has to grow up knowing she distroyed a family.
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September 01, 2014, 09:27:34 PM
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It all boils down to a person this young not having the strength to handle such a weapon, let alone an automatic one. As soon as the trigger is pulled the gun just starts spraying upwards or sideways and certainly no young girl could handle it. A .22 cal is the only gun this person should've been allowed to practice on. This is just common sense.
this is correct.  It's not just the full auto, but the short, pistol like Uzi which doesn't have full support like a rifle.

This is not complicated.  Would you let a 9 year old shoot a Dirty Harry 44 Magnum?  Nope.

A 45 Auto?  Not I.

A 357 Magnum?  Nope.

Any fully auto is one more step in difficulty that these three.

This would be like taking a beginning student pilot and putting him in a Citation Jet, instead of a Cessna 150.


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September 01, 2014, 09:55:37 PM
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The instructor's mistake cost him his life. But I suppose it wasn't all for nothing. This will at least knock some sense to other instructors that shows such negligence. As for the little girl, this is something that will traumatize her for the rest of her life, and most definitely affect her mental well being.

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September 02, 2014, 08:26:26 AM
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I liked how the family of the dead man reacted and reached out to the girl. Clearly stating they do not blame her at all.

Probably the most intelligent people there.
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September 02, 2014, 10:01:51 AM
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i don't know exactly where i fall on the gun issue, but this is the pitfall of the "the more guns you have, the better" logic. reality is, the more guns you have, the more gun accidents you will see.

Living in the UK we cant have guns basically.  I would like to carry a gun as i feel im at a stage in my life where i could handle the responsibility of this.  Also get fed up with idiots who act all tough in day to day life if they are bigger or taller vs others and having guns is a great leveler since you'd never know who was carrying. 

During my late teens having a gun would have been very dangerous for me.
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September 02, 2014, 10:09:17 AM
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Just watching fox news - there's a  lady commenting on how good and healthy breakfast cereals are in the US, - but too many American fatties are scoffing too much, ... she is just like pro gun nutters in the US saying how good guns are, - but too many kids are blowing heads off fellow Americans, along with thousands of other older Americans that should have common sense blowing each other away bleeding place is outta control .

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September 02, 2014, 10:17:58 AM
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Well that was an unfortunate incident
Then again can see a battle about gun control brewing in the background

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September 02, 2014, 10:18:33 AM
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health and safety was developed over centuries in the western world in an attempt to prevent death and injury includes things like ...


1) placing guards and shields over fast rotating shafts and gears on machinery

previously back in the 1700's / 1800's people were getting snagged on farm and factory machinery and ripped up into mince meat - prevention /reduction of carnage ... see 1)


2) asbestos is banned from extensive use and is being removed where previously installed

previously asbestos was slapped and schlathered over all sorts of pipes and walls, etc, in an attempt to fire proof buildings - prevention /reduction of cancer ... see 2)


3) vehicles fitted with seat belts, airbags, softer dash board/ steering wheels plus designed with crash zones, also drivers not allowed to drink booze

previously people drove around drunk in dangerous jalopies - prevention /reduction of carnage ... see 3)


4) cigarettes have tax hikes and smoking banned from public places, plus advisory health messages / photos printed on fag packs

previously back in the days of black and white films, doctors were promoting smoking as healthy and actors were making out it was sexy - prevention /reduction of cancer ... see 4)


5) in developed countries up to modern day amnesty international standards, death penalties were banned along with wide spread gun ownership and wholesale rootin' tooting' shootin'.

back in the days of savage living, people were strung up, shot, electrified, injected, burned to death, stoned to death, and thousands of nut cases were roaming around willy nilly with guns - prevention /reduction of carnage and lack of civilised behaviour ... see 5)

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September 02, 2014, 10:26:20 AM
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I don't live in US and sincerely don't understand all that passion US citizens have for weapons but I guess I would get it much better if I were born in States.

What I really disapprove is teaching your 9 yo child to use a weapon (and above all a UZI).

There is a world full of things to learn and discover, sports to practice, interests to share with ourt kids and so on.

Why weapons ? Why

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