9 year old girl kills bloke stone dead with full auto machine gun

[Lethn]

some insensitive cunt is going to accuse her of murder.

I'd be really surprised at this, I would have thought if there was more of a (manufactured) outrage some form of regulation may be put forward.

I hope I'm wrong but this is 'Murica we're talking about, hopefully it will just blow over and they'll let the child go on with her life.

[meadefreling]

Its a very tragic occurrence for the instructor to allow the little 9 year old to fire the gun at full auto considering her age,weight and in experience in handling the same gun even at single mode talk-less firing autoamtic. I can't just imagine the psychological and emotional trauma she will be going through at the moment and probably all her with thought of been responsible for Bloke's death be it accidental or not. I guess this will be a major lesson for parents who expose their children to deadly ventures like these in the civilized societies all in the name of vacations.

[oceans]

This is something you never think you will see, what I don't understand is why a 9 year old was even handling a Uzi? I read a few days ago that these guns are far too heavy for a child so it really does not make sense as to why they allowed her to use it, recoil alone was enough to cause damage in which is did and with it being heavy there was no way she could have controlled it. My thoughts go out to the family of the instructor that died. It was an unfortunate accident.

[Scoremaster]

they should not have given a child an automatic gun. thats just stupid.

to be really safe, the kid should have been trained with a long stick and taught all about u not turning aroudn when holding guns, and always point it at the ground(not your foot) and all the basics. then after a few times of training the muscle memory to not turn around and shoot someone, then u can give them a semi auto gun with 1 round in it and have them practice firing one round at a time.

[RodeoX]

Most of the people in this thread would have done a better job than her instructor. She should have been mastering a .22 rifle at her age. The problem with hand guns is that a small movement of the wrist is all it takes to shoot the guy next to you. Add to that the fact that when some people panic they squeeze the trigger harder and you are going to have accidents.
Also a lot has been made about it being an UZI. A full sized UZI would have been better, but those UZI pistols are dangerous and kinda stupid. The picture below is of an UZI pistol. Several companies now make them.

[Spendulus]

some insensitive cunt is going to accuse her of murder.

I'd be really surprised at this, I would have thought if there was more of a (manufactured) outrage some form of regulation may be put forward.

What the politicalization of the subject of gun control means is that whatever is put forward would be in line with the narrative and in line with the political goals, hence, it would have nothing to do with "Firearms safety at gun ranges", just like after some crazy guy kills some people, there is no proposal to "Restrict firearms from people taking psychotropic medications", and just like after the Ft. Hood Massacre there was no mention of Islamic Terrorist Strikes Ft.  Hood.

No good can come of a simple inability to improve the world by looking at cause and effect and suggesting modifications therein.  This is actually not "Progressive" thinking, but atavistic cultist and tribalized magical thinking.

[Honeypot]

Misleading title, false premise, and fool's question all rolled into one with fake, weak agenda.

Does that sum up this thread?


It was an accident with a submachine gun where the instructor in question blew through all the important safe guards regarding how to act in a firing range before blowing himself away, not the least by allowing a 9 year old girl to handle a SUB MACHINE GUN.

Sub machine gun is a completely different weapon from a 'full auto machine gun' which describes more the m-2 browning .50 caliber weapon or SAW.

If you are going to post nonsense, at least try to know what the hell you are talking about beforehand. Fine piece of discussion topic, just like that journalist who couldn't tell the difference between ear plugs and rubber bullets.

[zolace]

Misleading title, false premise, and fool's question all rolled into one with fake, weak agenda.

Does that sum up this thread?


It was an accident with a submachine gun where the instructor in question blew through all the important safe guards regarding how to act in a firing range before blowing himself away, not the least by allowing a 9 year old girl to handle a SUB MACHINE GUN.

Sub machine gun is a completely different weapon from a 'full auto machine gun' which describes more the m-2 browning .50 caliber weapon or SAW.

If you are going to post nonsense, at least try to know what the hell you are talking about beforehand. Fine piece of discussion topic, just like that journalist who couldn't tell the difference between ear plugs and rubber bullets.

If some bloke want's to wrestle with an alligator and he gets his arm bitten off, that's stupid but he should be allowed to do it again, with his one arm left, - he has got some thinking to do, hopefully he makes the right choice.

Same with US gun ranges and kiddies with Uzi's, sure blokes are getting their heads blown off by 9 years olds, but let the gun ranges carry on if they think they can pull it off ?

If parents and gun ranges eventually develop national tournaments for 9 year olds for trick shooting Uzi's with no blood spilt, then they may prove us wrong that kids can be trained to handle full auto machine guns all the time with zero casualties year after year.

Bit like alligator wrestlers though, for every one with an arm or hand or something bitten off there's bound to be dozens of others.

[Mr.Bitty]

Misleading title, false premise, and fool's question all rolled into one with fake, weak agenda.

Does that sum up this thread?


It was an accident with a submachine gun where the instructor in question blew through all the important safe guards regarding how to act in a firing range before blowing himself away, not the least by allowing a 9 year old girl to handle a SUB MACHINE GUN.

Sub machine gun is a completely different weapon from a 'full auto machine gun' which describes more the m-2 browning .50 caliber weapon or SAW.

If you are going to post nonsense, at least try to know what the hell you are talking about beforehand. Fine piece of discussion topic, just like that journalist who couldn't tell the difference between ear plugs and rubber bullets.

If some bloke want's to wrestle with an alligator and he gets his arm bitten off, that's stupid but he should be allowed to do it again, with his one arm left, - he has got some thinking to do, hopefully he makes the right choice.

Same with US gun ranges and kiddies with Uzi's, sure blokes are getting their heads blown off by 9 years olds, but let the gun ranges carry on if they think they can pull it off ?

If parents and gun ranges eventually develop national tournaments for 9 year olds for trick shooting Uzi's with no blood spilt, then they may prove us wrong that kids can be trained to handle full auto machine guns all the time with zero casualties year after year.

Bit like alligator wrestlers though, for every one with an arm or hand or something bitten off there's bound to be dozens of others.

Same applies to Irishmen with bombs. They used to do such a great job with losing body parts. I bet you cry yourself to sleep wishing for the good old days.

[bank of bits]

What about the parents'?
Who decided a 9 year old should ,shoot an uzi

[zolace]

What about the parents'?
Who decided a 9 year old should ,shoot an uzi

The parents are first to blame,what was in their head to take their daughter on shooting lessons?There are a lot of others interesting activities you can take your child too not on a shooting field.

[zolace]

Misleading title, false premise, and fool's question all rolled into one with fake, weak agenda.

Does that sum up this thread?


It was an accident with a submachine gun where the instructor in question blew through all the important safe guards regarding how to act in a firing range before blowing himself away, not the least by allowing a 9 year old girl to handle a SUB MACHINE GUN.

Sub machine gun is a completely different weapon from a 'full auto machine gun' which describes more the m-2 browning .50 caliber weapon or SAW.

If you are going to post nonsense, at least try to know what the hell you are talking about beforehand. Fine piece of discussion topic, just like that journalist who couldn't tell the difference between ear plugs and rubber bullets.

If some bloke want's to wrestle with an alligator and he gets his arm bitten off, that's stupid but he should be allowed to do it again, with his one arm left, - he has got some thinking to do, hopefully he makes the right choice.

Same with US gun ranges and kiddies with Uzi's, sure blokes are getting their heads blown off by 9 years olds, but let the gun ranges carry on if they think they can pull it off ?

If parents and gun ranges eventually develop national tournaments for 9 year olds for trick shooting Uzi's with no blood spilt, then they may prove us wrong that kids can be trained to handle full auto machine guns all the time with zero casualties year after year.

Bit like alligator wrestlers though, for every one with an arm or hand or something bitten off there's bound to be dozens of others.

Same applies to Irishmen with bombs. They used to do such a great job with losing body parts. I bet you cry yourself to sleep wishing for the good old days.

Is the American terrorist funding association Noraid looking to supply bombs and guns again to stir up tensions in Northern Ireland ?

[Mr.Bitty]

Misleading title, false premise, and fool's question all rolled into one with fake, weak agenda.

Does that sum up this thread?


It was an accident with a submachine gun where the instructor in question blew through all the important safe guards regarding how to act in a firing range before blowing himself away, not the least by allowing a 9 year old girl to handle a SUB MACHINE GUN.

Sub machine gun is a completely different weapon from a 'full auto machine gun' which describes more the m-2 browning .50 caliber weapon or SAW.

If you are going to post nonsense, at least try to know what the hell you are talking about beforehand. Fine piece of discussion topic, just like that journalist who couldn't tell the difference between ear plugs and rubber bullets.

If some bloke want's to wrestle with an alligator and he gets his arm bitten off, that's stupid but he should be allowed to do it again, with his one arm left, - he has got some thinking to do, hopefully he makes the right choice.

Same with US gun ranges and kiddies with Uzi's, sure blokes are getting their heads blown off by 9 years olds, but let the gun ranges carry on if they think they can pull it off ?

If parents and gun ranges eventually develop national tournaments for 9 year olds for trick shooting Uzi's with no blood spilt, then they may prove us wrong that kids can be trained to handle full auto machine guns all the time with zero casualties year after year.

Bit like alligator wrestlers though, for every one with an arm or hand or something bitten off there's bound to be dozens of others.

Same applies to Irishmen with bombs. They used to do such a great job with losing body parts. I bet you cry yourself to sleep wishing for the good old days.

Is the American terrorist funding association Noraid looking to supply bombs and guns again to stir up tensions in Northern Ireland ?

That would be the Kennedys, former criminals giving money to other former criminals .

[zolace]

Misleading title, false premise, and fool's question all rolled into one with fake, weak agenda.

Does that sum up this thread?


It was an accident with a submachine gun where the instructor in question blew through all the important safe guards regarding how to act in a firing range before blowing himself away, not the least by allowing a 9 year old girl to handle a SUB MACHINE GUN.

Sub machine gun is a completely different weapon from a 'full auto machine gun' which describes more the m-2 browning .50 caliber weapon or SAW.

If you are going to post nonsense, at least try to know what the hell you are talking about beforehand. Fine piece of discussion topic, just like that journalist who couldn't tell the difference between ear plugs and rubber bullets.

If some bloke want's to wrestle with an alligator and he gets his arm bitten off, that's stupid but he should be allowed to do it again, with his one arm left, - he has got some thinking to do, hopefully he makes the right choice.

Same with US gun ranges and kiddies with Uzi's, sure blokes are getting their heads blown off by 9 years olds, but let the gun ranges carry on if they think they can pull it off ?

If parents and gun ranges eventually develop national tournaments for 9 year olds for trick shooting Uzi's with no blood spilt, then they may prove us wrong that kids can be trained to handle full auto machine guns all the time with zero casualties year after year.

Bit like alligator wrestlers though, for every one with an arm or hand or something bitten off there's bound to be dozens of others.

Same applies to Irishmen with bombs. They used to do such a great job with losing body parts. I bet you cry yourself to sleep wishing for the good old days.

Is the American terrorist funding association Noraid looking to supply bombs and guns again to stir up tensions in Northern Ireland ?

That would be the Kennedys, former criminals giving money to other former criminals .

Who was that Irish man who first set up the american auto industry with production line manufacture ? Ah yeah, Henry Ford.

[Mr.Bitty]

Misleading title, false premise, and fool's question all rolled into one with fake, weak agenda.

Does that sum up this thread?


It was an accident with a submachine gun where the instructor in question blew through all the important safe guards regarding how to act in a firing range before blowing himself away, not the least by allowing a 9 year old girl to handle a SUB MACHINE GUN.

Sub machine gun is a completely different weapon from a 'full auto machine gun' which describes more the m-2 browning .50 caliber weapon or SAW.

If you are going to post nonsense, at least try to know what the hell you are talking about beforehand. Fine piece of discussion topic, just like that journalist who couldn't tell the difference between ear plugs and rubber bullets.

If some bloke want's to wrestle with an alligator and he gets his arm bitten off, that's stupid but he should be allowed to do it again, with his one arm left, - he has got some thinking to do, hopefully he makes the right choice.

Same with US gun ranges and kiddies with Uzi's, sure blokes are getting their heads blown off by 9 years olds, but let the gun ranges carry on if they think they can pull it off ?

If parents and gun ranges eventually develop national tournaments for 9 year olds for trick shooting Uzi's with no blood spilt, then they may prove us wrong that kids can be trained to handle full auto machine guns all the time with zero casualties year after year.

Bit like alligator wrestlers though, for every one with an arm or hand or something bitten off there's bound to be dozens of others.

Same applies to Irishmen with bombs. They used to do such a great job with losing body parts. I bet you cry yourself to sleep wishing for the good old days.

Is the American terrorist funding association Noraid looking to supply bombs and guns again to stir up tensions in Northern Ireland ?

That would be the Kennedys, former criminals giving money to other former criminals .

Who was that Irish man who first set up the american auto industry with production line manufacture ? Ah yeah, Henry Ford.

He was a nazi sympathizer also, just like the Irish.

[sana8410]

Henry Ford learned of a process for turning wood scraps from the production of Model T's into charcoal briquets. He built a charcoal plant, and the rest is history. The Kingsford Company was formed when E.G. Kingsford, a relative of Ford's, brokered the site selection for Ford's new charcoal manufacturing plant. The company, originally called Ford Charcoal, was renamed Kingsford® Charcoal in his honor.
Today, the Kingsford Products Company remains the leading manufacturer of charcoal in the U.S. More than 1 million tons of wood scraps are converted into quality charcoal briquets every year.
Barbequing with charcoal has become immensely popular since Ford's time.

[zolace]

The next time Mr.Bitty is stood out on his back lawn stuffing grilled chicken down his gullet in awe at the roasting waft of charcoal on the breeze, he can offer a silent dedication to that wee Irish fella Henry, no doubt still thinking he was a potential thick paddywhack spud eating bomb making bastard who slipped through customs as an illegal alien without being a proper dandy gay boy on the mayflower.

[zolace]

Here's a song about Mr.Bitty's ideal ponce like london england poof boy US settler type dandy toff ...


I'm Bert, p'raps you've heard of me
Bert, you've had word of me,
Jogging along, hearty and strong
Living on plates of fresh air
I dress up in fashion
And when I am feeling depressed
I shave from my cuff all the whiskers and fluff
Stick my hat on and toddle up West

I'm Burlington Bertie, I rise at ten thirty
And saunter along like a toff
I walk down the Strand with my gloves on my hand
Then I walk down again with them off
I'm all airs and graces, correct easy paces
Without food so long I've forgot where my face is
I'm Bert, Bert, I haven't a shirt
But my people are well off you know.
Nearly everyone knows me from Smith to Lord Rosebr'y,
I'm Burlington Bertie from Bow.

I stroll with Lord Hurlington,
Roll in The Burlington
Call for Champagne, walk out again
Come back and borrow the ink
I live most expensive
Like Tom Lipton I'm in the swim
He's got so much 'oof', he sleeps on the roof
And I live in the room over him.

I'm Burlington Bertie, I rise at ten thirty
And saunter along Temple Bar
As round there I skip
I keep shouting 'Pip Pip!'
And the darn'd fools think I'm in my car
At Rothchilds I swank it
My body I plank it
On his front door step with 'The Mail' for a blanket
I'm Bert, Bert, and Rothchild was hurt
He said ' You can't sleep there' I said 'Oh'
He said 'I'm Rothchild sonny!' I said 'That's damn'd funny,
I'm Burlington Bertie from Bow'

I smile condescendingly
While they're extending me
Cheer upon cheer when I appear
Captain with my polo team
So strict are my people
They're William the Conqueror's strain
If they ever knew I'd been talking to you
Why they'd never look at me again

I'm Burlington Bertie, I rise at ten thirty
And reach Kempton park around three
I stand by the rail, when a horse is for sale
And you ought to see Wooton watch me
I lean on some awning while Lord Derby's yawning
Then he bids two thousand and I bid Good Morning
I'm Bert, Bert, I'd buy one, a cert
But where would I keep it you know
I can't let my man see me in bed with a gee-gee
I'm Burlington Bertie from Bow!

My pose, Tho' ironical
Shows that my monocle
Holds up my face, keeps it in place,
Stops it from slipping away.
Cigars, I smoke thousands,
I usually deal in The Strand
But you've got to take care when you're getting them there
Or some idiot might stand on your hand.

I'm Burlington Bertie, I rise at ten thirty
And Buckingham Palace I view.
I stand in the yard while they're changing the guard
And the queen shouts across "Toodle oo"!
The Prince of Wales' brother along with some other
Slaps me on the back and says "Come and see Mother"
But I'm Bert, Bert, and Royalty's hurt,
When they ask me to dine I say no.
I've just had a banana with Lady Diana
I'm Burlington Bertie from Bow.

[Mr.Bitty]

The next time Mr.Bitty is stood out on his back lawn stuffing grilled chicken down his gullet in awe at the roasting waft of charcoal on the breeze, he can offer a silent dedication to that wee Irish fella Henry, no doubt still thinking he was a potential thick paddywhack spud eating bomb making bastard who slipped through customs as an illegal alien without being a proper dandy gay boy on the mayflower.

So all there is in your post of drivel is that you're jealous I can afford better than wormy potatoes and a 6 pack. We all knew that already. The British only kicked your asses repeatedly because they hoped to help you rise above the trash heap. High hopes indeed.

[dankkk]

What about the parents'?
Who decided a 9 year old should ,shoot an uzi

The parents are first to blame,what was in their head to take their daughter on shooting lessons?There are a lot of others interesting activities you can take your child too not on a shooting field.

I think the instructor is more to blame then the parents (although they are both responsible). The instructor was a professional and should have know that a 9 year old would not be strong enough to be able to be able to sufficiently handle an automatic gun like this.