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September 03, 2014, 04:34:39 AM
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Closing this as there was no proven scam that occurred, some suspicious behavior/activity though. Please PM me if you have any relevant information regarding this case. Have removed my negative trust for now unless more information comes to lightThe accused's profile: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=325471Received this message today via email: He's been demodded from primedice, It is really painful to do so as he's been active for quite some time but the evidence seems pretty conclusive. He also emails us from a "joshjones" email. It's just really sad because he seemed like a geniunely nice guy but his interests seem to be in a long-con. Being a moderator on primedice or any website is not proof of trust, be careful and only lend to those who provide collateral. As always I will gladly read and consider some sort of rebuttal from Anony.
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September 03, 2014, 04:47:56 AM |
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Sorry to see such a cool guy get de-modded, but you gotta do what you gotta do I guess.
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September 03, 2014, 04:49:20 AM |
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good looking out stunna
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September 03, 2014, 04:50:42 AM |
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hard decision for you stunna . . but lets wait for anony's explanation
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Anony
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September 03, 2014, 04:58:15 AM |
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The accused's profile: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=325471Received this message today via email: He's been demodded from primedice, It is really painful to do so as he's been active for quite some time but the evidence seems pretty conclusive. He also emails us from a "joshjones" email. It's just really sad because he seemed like a geniunely nice guy but his interests seem to be in a long-con. Being a moderator on primedice or any website is not proof of trust, be careful and only lend to those who provide collateral. Thank you to the person who provided this information to me, likely prevented a pretty significant scam. Not listing their name here as they may want to remain anonymous. I feel pretty betrayed, but I am happy to know the truth. I won't lie, I was PlanKton/DestiiX but I never once scammed someone. I shutdown a site that was being run by a low life scammer who was taking others BTC. I received a 0.15 loan from bipolarbob, which I repaid back .35 to months ago. And yes I have been asking for a pretty significant loan, and was only mentioning that I was a mod for PD, not basing the entire loan upon that though. I have not one time taken out a loan from someone and not repaid, in fact I've only ever received 1 loan, the 0.15 from bipolarbob. |
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Stunna (OP)
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September 03, 2014, 05:05:39 AM |
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The accused's profile: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=325471Received this message today via email: He's been demodded from primedice, It is really painful to do so as he's been active for quite some time but the evidence seems pretty conclusive. He also emails us from a "joshjones" email. It's just really sad because he seemed like a geniunely nice guy but his interests seem to be in a long-con. Being a moderator on primedice or any website is not proof of trust, be careful and only lend to those who provide collateral. Thank you to the person who provided this information to me, likely prevented a pretty significant scam. Not listing their name here as they may want to remain anonymous. I feel pretty betrayed, but I am happy to know the truth. I won't lie, I was PlanKton/DestiiX but I never once scammed someone. I shutdown a site that was being run by a low life scammer who was taking others BTC. I received a 0.15 loan from bipolarbob, which I repaid back .35 to months ago. And yes I have been asking for a pretty significant loan, and was only mentioning that I was a mod for PD, not basing the entire loan upon that though. I have not one time taken out a loan from someone and not repaid, in fact I've only ever received 1 loan, the 0.15 from bipolarbob. I'd like to hear more from minerdirect about this, for what reason would you create alt accounts to request loans though in the first place. You could have asked for such loans from anony directly? |
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September 03, 2014, 05:10:04 AM |
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Those accounts were way before I even made Anony, when I first started in btc, and before I even started in PD. None the less, shutting down a site due to the owner being a lying bag of trash, is not being a scammer, nor do I like being labeled as a scammer. Like I said, I have received one loan from bipolarbob, which was a .15 loan for a week and I repaid .35 back to him, I am far from being a scammer, or don't you think I would have taken money from all of the PD members who have trusted me in HOLDING their btc for them? Come on Stunna, I have done nothing but be a part of the family here at PD, and it's where I call home.
Also, you won't hear much from minerdirect as other members of the bitcointalk community soon realized I was right about him, and soon began uncovering the truth. Haven't seen him since.
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September 03, 2014, 05:59:43 AM |
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I took from the scammers and gave to the poor, gave the rest to the guy that deserves it the most, purposely went all-in looking to lose, look at it as a farewell gift from me Stunna. Thanks for the amazing opportunity to moderate the best site I have ever stumbled upon. Farewell.  |
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Stunna (OP)
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September 03, 2014, 06:07:18 AM |
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Those accounts were way before I even made Anony, when I first started in btc, and before I even started in PD. None the less, shutting down a site due to the owner being a lying bag of trash, is not being a scammer, nor do I like being labeled as a scammer. Like I said, I have received one loan from bipolarbob, which was a .15 loan for a week and I repaid .35 back to him, I am far from being a scammer, or don't you think I would have taken money from all of the PD members who have trusted me in HOLDING their btc for them? Come on Stunna, I have done nothing but be a part of the family here at PD, and it's where I call home.
Also, you won't hear much from minerdirect as other members of the bitcointalk community soon realized I was right about him, and soon began uncovering the truth. Haven't seen him since.
I'll reserve final personal judgement when I get the full story from minerdirect or perhaps someone who has neg trusted you in the past such as tomatocage. |
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September 03, 2014, 06:09:42 AM |
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Those accounts were way before I even made Anony, when I first started in btc, and before I even started in PD. None the less, shutting down a site due to the owner being a lying bag of trash, is not being a scammer, nor do I like being labeled as a scammer. Like I said, I have received one loan from bipolarbob, which was a .15 loan for a week and I repaid .35 back to him, I am far from being a scammer, or don't you think I would have taken money from all of the PD members who have trusted me in HOLDING their btc for them? Come on Stunna, I have done nothing but be a part of the family here at PD, and it's where I call home.
Also, you won't hear much from minerdirect as other members of the bitcointalk community soon realized I was right about him, and soon began uncovering the truth. Haven't seen him since.
I'll reserve final personal judgement when I get the full story from minerdirect or perhaps someone who has neg trusted you in the past such as tomatocage. Given the fact that minerdirect was ratted out to be a lying scammer and hasn't been active in over 2 months, I highly doubt you will be hearing from him. As I said, I took from the scammers, gave to the poor, and gave more to the man that deserves it. I am hereby retiring from BTC, thanks for the opportunity, I left you a little gift on the HR tab, farewell present. Take care Stunna. |
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September 03, 2014, 03:47:19 PM |
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Those accounts were way before I even made Anony, when I first started in btc, and before I even started in PD. None the less, shutting down a site due to the owner being a lying bag of trash, is not being a scammer, nor do I like being labeled as a scammer. Like I said, I have received one loan from bipolarbob, which was a .15 loan for a week and I repaid .35 back to him, I am far from being a scammer, or don't you think I would have taken money from all of the PD members who have trusted me in HOLDING their btc for them? Come on Stunna, I have done nothing but be a part of the family here at PD, and it's where I call home.
Also, you won't hear much from minerdirect as other members of the bitcointalk community soon realized I was right about him, and soon began uncovering the truth. Haven't seen him since.
I'll reserve final personal judgement when I get the full story from minerdirect or perhaps someone who has neg trusted you in the past such as tomatocage. I personally don't take anything Tomatocage says seriously, as well as the other guys with the HUGE positive trust. It's almost like they're all in an occult of wanna-be moderators on bitcointalk. I don't know Anony very well, nor do I know anything about MinerDirect. But it just seems to me like this could of been worked out in private, no need to make a big post about it and single Anony out. All I can say, is that Anony is 10x more active than MinerDirect, and I've never seen him scam anyone, in fact I've mostly seen him just give tips out on PD3. I've never seen him abuse his power or anything remotely close to that. So I really do feel for him right now, I don't really think it's fair to judge him based on what he did months ago, to a site, that really doesn't seem all that legit from what I've read. All of that^ being said. I still don't understand why you took down MinerDirect, you say they were scamming people but what exactly were they doing? This all could of been avoided though, if you were upfront about it Anony. I don't know how Stunna picked you to be a mod, but didn't he ask something along the lines of past experience? You could of brought it up then. I understand that it would still of looked bad if you were to of brought it up in the beginning, but it wouldn't look like it does now :/ ALLLL OF THAT^ being said I still think Anony is a good guy overall. And I'm sorry that he got demoted. Stunna I doubt you'll hear anything from MinerDirect if they haven't been online since June and their site does not work. I don't know if you pay your moderators either, but in this case I'd think some severance BTC would go a long way. Anony has done great work up til you demoted him. I just feel very torn about this too because I like Anony and he is the last person I would of expected to see this thread about, but at the same time you're just trying to protect yourself and your site Stunna, which is completely understandable. That's why I think you should pay him for his past services And I think you should just agree to retire Anony. Whether what you did to MinerDirect was justified or otherwise, it still doesn't look good for Stunna to have you as a mod anymore. I'm sorry :/ I really put a lot of thought into this post too, I came here and started writing it right after I saw that Anony was demoted. I hope you don't dislike me for thinking that you should retire as Mod. I'm just trying to look at this from your perspective Anony, and Stunna's as a business owner. |
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September 03, 2014, 05:33:35 PM |
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I personally don't take anything Tomatocage says seriously, as well as the other guys with the HUGE positive trust. It's almost like they're all in an occult of wanna-be moderators on bitcointalk. Really? Why not? Can you cite any examples of me abusing the trust system, or levying negative trust at random for no good reason? Please enlighten us. |
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September 03, 2014, 06:09:52 PM |
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All of that^ being said. I still don't understand why you took down MinerDirect, you say they were scamming people but what exactly were they doing?
This all could of been avoided though, if you were upfront about it Anony. I don't know how Stunna picked you to be a mod, but didn't he ask something along the lines of past experience? You could of brought it up then.
The site had some dice games that you could play, that were not fair at all, you would lose any amount of BTC that you wagered, no matter what the out come of the roll was. And as for I could have been upfront, no one ever questioned me about whether or not I was the one who crashed the site. This was months ago, and the way I look at it, I stopped a scammer and now all of a sudden I'm the one being put out as the scammer? Also I'm not looking to be paid for the services I provided to PD while I moderated, I volunteered for the position and did it out of enjoyment. I appreciate the opportunity Stunna gave me to be a mod, and I looked at it as more of a privilege than a job. |
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September 03, 2014, 08:36:14 PM |
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I personally don't take anything Tomatocage says seriously, as well as the other guys with the HUGE positive trust. It's almost like they're all in an occult of wanna-be moderators on bitcointalk. Really? Why not? Can you cite any examples of me abusing the trust system, or levying negative trust at random for no good reason? Please enlighten us. Well for one your reference on Anony's alt is because he wanted to $10 with paypal, it doesn't look as though the trade even happened, and his posts only said he wanted to buy with paypal, so how is he a scammer? Anony: I'm wasn't wondering if he asked you if you crashed the site, but "if you had experience doing a moderators job before PD", did he ask you that or something like that? If he did not ask you any sort of question like that, and you never lied to him, then (after thinking from 7:30 am til 1:25 PM my time, about this) I'd have to say it was a very piss poor decision of Stunna to just post this accusation without even talking you first as it looks like he did, as he was still waiting for a rebuttal from you as of OP. You've been a mod for (idk I just joined PD recently) a while and have done a good job thus far, no one can argue that; but the point I want to make with this paragraph is that that I'm saying a sarcastic and exasperated "Really???" to Stunna because its like, why would you not try to get this figured out with Anony first before defaming him to the public, and completely demoting him. I guess Australians do "guilty until proven innocent"  If I were you Anony, I wouldn't be too upset; if he even ever offered again your position back you should decline because you don't deserve to be persecuted publicly like this. |
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September 03, 2014, 08:42:25 PM |
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I personally don't take anything Tomatocage says seriously, as well as the other guys with the HUGE positive trust. It's almost like they're all in an occult of wanna-be moderators on bitcointalk. Really? Why not? Can you cite any examples of me abusing the trust system, or levying negative trust at random for no good reason? Please enlighten us. Well for one your reference on Anony's alt is because he wanted to $10 with paypal, it doesn't look as though the trade even happened, and his posts only said he wanted to buy with paypal, so how is he a scammer? Anony: I'm wasn't wondering if he asked you if you crashed the site, but "if you had experience doing a moderators job before PD", did he ask you that or something like that? If he did not ask you any sort of question like that, and you never lied to him, then (after thinking from 7:30 am til 1:25 PM my time, about this) I'd have to say it was a very piss poor decision of Stunna to just post this accusation without even talking you first as it looks like he did, as he was still waiting for a rebuttal from you as of OP. You've been a mod for (idk I just joined PD recently) a while and have done a good job thus far, no one can argue that; but the point I want to make with this paragraph is that that I'm saying a sarcastic and exasperated "Really???" to Stunna because its like, why would you not try to get this figured out with Anony first before defaming him to the public, and completely demoting him. I guess Australians do "guilty until proven innocent" If I were you Anony, I wouldn't be too upset; if he even ever offered again your position back you should decline because you don't deserve to be persecuted publicly like this. No, I came to Stunna offering to moderate chat. At the time there was only a mod on every couple of hours, leaving the chat open to trolls and scammers for hours upon hours at a time. I got tired of seeing this, So I came to Stunna and offered my help. He never asked me if I had experience in moderating any type of chat/site, all we discussed was that I spent a LOT of time on PD and that I had numerous members nominate me for moderate before I even came to Stunna asking for the position. |
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September 03, 2014, 08:53:54 PM |
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I personally don't take anything Tomatocage says seriously, as well as the other guys with the HUGE positive trust. It's almost like they're all in an occult of wanna-be moderators on bitcointalk. Really? Why not? Can you cite any examples of me abusing the trust system, or levying negative trust at random for no good reason? Please enlighten us. Well for one your reference on Anony's alt is because he wanted to $10 with paypal, it doesn't look as though the trade even happened, and his posts only said he wanted to buy with paypal, so how is he a scammer? It wasn't because of the $10 PayPal request. It was because of evidence presented in the thread which, if you read through it, indicates that the account was an alt of a known scammer. |
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September 03, 2014, 09:00:18 PM |
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Yeah...you left me bad trust feedback just because "I went dark and came back with a different personality....." But no worries tomato, let's confirm I own this account  I'd love to clear this issue up and remove the negative trust. So far I've given you 3 or 4 BTC addresses to digitally sign. Have you had any luck with any of them? |
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September 03, 2014, 09:03:15 PM |
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I personally don't take anything Tomatocage says seriously, as well as the other guys with the HUGE positive trust. It's almost like they're all in an occult of wanna-be moderators on bitcointalk. Really? Why not? Can you cite any examples of me abusing the trust system, or levying negative trust at random for no good reason? Please enlighten us. Well for one your reference on Anony's alt is because he wanted to $10 with paypal, it doesn't look as though the trade even happened, and his posts only said he wanted to buy with paypal, so how is he a scammer? It wasn't because of the $10 PayPal request. It was because of evidence presented in the thread which, if you read through it, indicates that the account was an alt of a known scammer. "Known scammer" I was accused of scamming because minerdirect got butthurt that I put a halt to his scamming website, I never once took anything from anyone. Like I said in an earlier post, I have received one loan that was 0.15 from bipolarbob, which i returned 0.35 within a week, I'm not a scammer and never have been. |
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September 03, 2014, 09:09:51 PM |
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"Known scammer" I was accused of scamming because minerdirect got butthurt that I put a halt to his scamming website, I never once took anything from anyone. Like I said in an earlier post, I have received one loan that was 0.15 from bipolarbob, which i returned 0.35 within a week, I'm not a scammer and never have been. Yeah man, I'm following this thread. My negative rating is subject to change as more facts are presented. Nothing is set in stone  |
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September 03, 2014, 09:13:33 PM |
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"Known scammer" I was accused of scamming because minerdirect got butthurt that I put a halt to his scamming website, I never once took anything from anyone. Like I said in an earlier post, I have received one loan that was 0.15 from bipolarbob, which i returned 0.35 within a week, I'm not a scammer and never have been. Yeah man, I'm following this thread. My negative rating is subject to change as more facts are presented. Nothing is set in stone Can't really give you any more facts since minerdirect has been offline for over 2 months, and that site no longer exists lol |
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