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September 03, 2014, 04:09:46 PM |
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I got news for you the united states have been executing muslims since 9/11 with drones,now its up to you to choose which is more babaric,useing a missile to blow you to pieces or a beheading,which is very common,the syrians having been doing it so has the saudies,and its was done in lebanon. Remember Obama had said the united states is at war with isil,which was like the death sentice on the american held hostages. With our borders wide open for Mexican cartels and crooked officials to rake in the bucks off terrorists needing guidance and the ability of isis to recruit Americans inside the US it may be too late to kill them before they kill us. But rest assured, obama has another speech to tell us how safe we are, how much better off the world is now that he has healed the waters and saved America and the world. So before anything happens obama has a lot of nice smoke to blow up your ass and make you feel warm and fuzzy.
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September 03, 2014, 04:43:31 PM |
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The left, of course, would rather talk about Ferguson, Michael Brown, and Darren Wilson, and ignore Obama's fecklessness. We don't send American troops back into that cesspool. Obama pulled them out and gave up all the ground they had gained, now we do NOT ask them to go back and die some more for the same real estate and the same raghead assholes.
No one is asking the United States to intervene directly in Iraq. But I can't understand why they are not helping the Peshmerga. The Kurdish fighters are armed only with light weapons and they are finding it increasingly difficult to take on the ISIS. But off course, there is the strong pressure from Turkey against arming the Kurds.
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September 03, 2014, 04:44:10 PM |
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Obama sending 350 more military personnel to Iraqmission creep WASHINGTON - President Barack Obama has authorized sending 350 more military personnel to Iraq protect U.S. facilities and personnel in Baghdad, the White House said Tuesday night.
The moves comes at the recommendation of the Defense Department, but the additional personnel will not be serving in a combat role, the White House said in a statement. Most are from the Army and some are Marines, the Pentagon said in a statement. more... http://www.cbsnews.com/news/obama-sending-350-more-military-personnel-to-iraq/
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September 03, 2014, 04:49:23 PM |
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2 US journalists beheaded by the ISIS militants, who are fighting against the US. At the same time, Russian journalist Andrei Stenin was murdered by Right Sector extremists, who are supported by the US in Ukraine. I just hope that Obama condemns all these murders. Murder of journalists should be dealt with, whether they are done by the anti-US or the pro-US factions.
The left, of course, would rather talk about Ferguson, Michael Brown, and Darren Wilson, and ignore Obama's fecklessness. We don't send American troops back into that cesspool. Obama pulled them out and gave up all the ground they had gained, now we do NOT ask them to go back and die some more for the same real estate and the same raghead assholes. Why do you think it is necessary to always lie. It was Bush and condie that gave all the ground back and you know it but continue to lie. What is wrong with your brain that you keep spewing out what you know damn well are lies. What on Earth are you babbling about this time? Bush handed Obama a peaceful Iraq, and Joe Biden even bragged that Obama would get the credit: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HOcPCrGRs6kThis was in 2010, long after Bush left office! Then, against all advice to the contrary, Obama pulled out all the troops and left Iraq defended only by very green troops, and we saw what happened when they faced ISIS! They ran. we never actually took "that ground" we cleared it for the Iraqis. Then, in accordance with an agreement negotiated by the previous President, what's-his-name (seems that mentioning his name - even in accurately speaking about things he did, either good or bad enrages some on the right).
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Mr.Bitty
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September 03, 2014, 04:51:41 PM |
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I cant help thinking this is a manipulation of the CIA, MI6, and Mossad to get us whipped up into war mode. And I am afraid of what this portends for the next presidential election. Can we get so blood thirsty we turn on our own who disagree with the war path?
It would be nice if we could stop all the manipulation. To what ends are we being manipulated?
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zolace
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September 03, 2014, 04:51:56 PM |
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The left, of course, would rather talk about Ferguson, Michael Brown, and Darren Wilson, and ignore Obama's fecklessness. We don't send American troops back into that cesspool. Obama pulled them out and gave up all the ground they had gained, now we do NOT ask them to go back and die some more for the same real estate and the same raghead assholes.
No one is asking the United States to intervene directly in Iraq. But I can't understand why they are not helping the Peshmerga. The Kurdish fighters are armed only with light weapons and they are finding it increasingly difficult to take on the ISIS. But off course, there is the strong pressure from Turkey against arming the Kurds. Time to end this once and for all. If Obama doesn't do something, it's going to get very ugly over here, when ISIS shows up and starts hitting soft targets. Americans will not take it.
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September 03, 2014, 04:53:45 PM |
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The left, of course, would rather talk about Ferguson, Michael Brown, and Darren Wilson, and ignore Obama's fecklessness. We don't send American troops back into that cesspool. Obama pulled them out and gave up all the ground they had gained, now we do NOT ask them to go back and die some more for the same real estate and the same raghead assholes.
No one is asking the United States to intervene directly in Iraq. But I can't understand why they are not helping the Peshmerga. The Kurdish fighters are armed only with light weapons and they are finding it increasingly difficult to take on the ISIS. But off course, there is the strong pressure from Turkey against arming the Kurds. Time to end this once and for all. If Obama doesn't do something, it's going to get very ugly over here, when ISIS shows up and starts hitting soft targets. Americans will not take it. Instead of reacting with no knowledge you might just try and learn about what the problems in the Middle east are. You show you have no idea, What is Saudi doing right now and how does that effect what we do. How do we handle Syria if we kill off Isis who is also fighting Assad. What are the rest of the powers doing and how will that all effect what we do. So without that type of Knowledge that you don't have it might be wiser to take time and learn instead of showing how much information you don't have. The real problem is that the righties just look and see how they can make Obama look bad and don't really give a damn about how it will effect the US and the people in the middle east.
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September 03, 2014, 04:54:58 PM |
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The left, of course, would rather talk about Ferguson, Michael Brown, and Darren Wilson, and ignore Obama's fecklessness. We don't send American troops back into that cesspool. Obama pulled them out and gave up all the ground they had gained, now we do NOT ask them to go back and die some more for the same real estate and the same raghead assholes.
No one is asking the United States to intervene directly in Iraq. But I can't understand why they are not helping the Peshmerga. The Kurdish fighters are armed only with light weapons... ... and RPGs, and assault rifles, and howitzers, and tanks, and helicopters, largely from the US, Germany, and Russia (both Soviet and "modern"). What will the Kurds do with these weapons if they should kill enough ISIS for ISIS to make peace with them? Stay within their traditional borders, content with victory and the safety they've brought their people?
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zolace
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September 03, 2014, 04:57:17 PM |
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The left, of course, would rather talk about Ferguson, Michael Brown, and Darren Wilson, and ignore Obama's fecklessness. We don't send American troops back into that cesspool. Obama pulled them out and gave up all the ground they had gained, now we do NOT ask them to go back and die some more for the same real estate and the same raghead assholes.
No one is asking the United States to intervene directly in Iraq. But I can't understand why they are not helping the Peshmerga. The Kurdish fighters are armed only with light weapons and they are finding it increasingly difficult to take on the ISIS. But off course, there is the strong pressure from Turkey against arming the Kurds. Time to end this once and for all. If Obama doesn't do something, it's going to get very ugly over here, when ISIS shows up and starts hitting soft targets. Americans will not take it. Instead of reacting with no knowledge you might just try and learn about what the problems in the Middle east are. You show you have no idea, What is Saudi doing right now and how does that effect what we do. How do we handle Syria if we kill off Isis who is also fighting Assad. What are the rest of the powers doing and how will that all effect what we do. So without that type of Knowledge that you don't have it might be wiser to take time and learn instead of showing how much information you don't have. The real problem is that the righties just look and see how they can make Obama look bad and don't really give a damn about how it will effect the US and the people in the middle east. The idea that you would school anyone and suggest they learn the facts when you can't even tell the difference between a fact and a lie is absurd. And as far as Saudi is concerned, they used to be a trusted ally but today they are distancing themselves from the obama admin after kicking him out of the country. And when the Saudis worked with other nations to do a fly over they didn't bother to engage with the US or even let them know their plans, but I have to ask, what do you think the Saudi are doing and what affect does that have on what obama does or more to the point what obama doesn't do since he doesn't seem to be able to do much besides golf and fund raise. Below is a little update from Saudi as you call it, now what do you think obama is going to do in response to the information the Saudi provided? According to obama our inept military has no plan and our intel has no idea how violent and fast moving this group is so who the hell if going to formulate a plan lit? obama the great warrior with all his military background as a community organizer? What will his plan be? To throw money at the problem like his solution to every other problem the US or the world has ever faced? If obama had aided the civilian rebels during his first term the rebels would have defeated asad by his second term instead of the terrorists joining the rebels and taking over the fight in the name of terrorism. Had obama left forces in iraq isis wouldn't have been able to recruit from iraq or invade iraq but obama didn't give a damn about the future of iraq he only cared about appeasing you lefties by pulling out every last troop and now we face a far greater risk thanks to the inept asshole in the oval office, the very same inept asshole that you laud as a great leader.
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Mr.Bitty
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September 03, 2014, 05:02:59 PM |
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Obama sending 350 more military personnel to Iraqmission creep WASHINGTON - President Barack Obama has authorized sending 350 more military personnel to Iraq protect U.S. facilities and personnel in Baghdad, the White House said Tuesday night.
The moves comes at the recommendation of the Defense Department, but the additional personnel will not be serving in a combat role, the White House said in a statement. Most are from the Army and some are Marines, the Pentagon said in a statement. more... http://www.cbsnews.com/news/obama-sending-350-more-military-personnel-to-iraq/ President Obama approved sending 350 additional troops to the Iraqi capital to increase security at the Baghdad embassy compound and its support facilities. The Pentagon said late Tuesday that the new personnel will build upon previous deployments that were announced in June, boosting security in Iraq to about 820 people. -snip- With the 350 new arrivals, there will be 1,113 personnel in Iraq.
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September 03, 2014, 05:04:02 PM |
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The left, of course, would rather talk about Ferguson, Michael Brown, and Darren Wilson, and ignore Obama's fecklessness. We don't send American troops back into that cesspool. Obama pulled them out and gave up all the ground they had gained, now we do NOT ask them to go back and die some more for the same real estate and the same raghead assholes.
No one is asking the United States to intervene directly in Iraq. But I can't understand why they are not helping the Peshmerga. The Kurdish fighters are armed only with light weapons and they are finding it increasingly difficult to take on the ISIS. But off course, there is the strong pressure from Turkey against arming the Kurds. Time to end this once and for all. If Obama doesn't do something, it's going to get very ugly over here, when ISIS shows up and starts hitting soft targets. Americans will not take it. My suggestion is NOT to kill all the Muslims in case they might become radicalized. That's the point. My suggestion is that we continue to deal things in an intelligent, civilized fashion. We do not kill people because of what they might one day do. We don't kill people because of what someone who shares their religion does. When someone shows signs that they may be becoming radicalized, we watch them. If they try something, we try to head them off. If we're unsuccessful in prevention, we react - we arrest, we try, we imprison, or even execute. But we DON'T preemptively commit genocide. It's not who we are.
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September 03, 2014, 05:05:37 PM |
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The left, of course, would rather talk about Ferguson, Michael Brown, and Darren Wilson, and ignore Obama's fecklessness. We don't send American troops back into that cesspool. Obama pulled them out and gave up all the ground they had gained, now we do NOT ask them to go back and die some more for the same real estate and the same raghead assholes.
No one is asking the United States to intervene directly in Iraq. But I can't understand why they are not helping the Peshmerga. The Kurdish fighters are armed only with light weapons... ... and RPGs, and assault rifles, and howitzers, and tanks, and helicopters, largely from the US, Germany, and Russia (both Soviet and "modern"). What will the Kurds do with these weapons if they should kill enough ISIS for ISIS to make peace with them? Stay within their traditional borders, content with victory and the safety they've brought their people?
[/b] That would be a well earned success.
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September 03, 2014, 05:07:04 PM |
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ISIS terrorists could be in America in just months if 'neglected,' warns Saudi king Saudi King Abdullah predicted that bloodthirsty jihadists will quickly spread throughout Europe and the United States if left unchecked, according to remarks reported Saturday by official Saudi media. On the same day Abdullah delivered his warning, U.S. fighter jets and unmanned drones launched five strikes against ISIS near Iraq's Mosul Dam. http://www.nydailynews.com/news/world/isis-terrorists-america-warns-saudi-king-article-1.1922590#ixzz3CCOj374A
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September 03, 2014, 05:20:47 PM |
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The left, of course, would rather talk about Ferguson, Michael Brown, and Darren Wilson, and ignore Obama's fecklessness. We don't send American troops back into that cesspool. Obama pulled them out and gave up all the ground they had gained, now we do NOT ask them to go back and die some more for the same real estate and the same raghead assholes.
No one is asking the United States to intervene directly in Iraq. But I can't understand why they are not helping the Peshmerga. The Kurdish fighters are armed only with light weapons... ... and RPGs, and assault rifles, and howitzers, and tanks, and helicopters, largely from the US, Germany, and Russia (both Soviet and "modern"). What will the Kurds do with these weapons if they should kill enough ISIS for ISIS to make peace with them? Stay within their traditional borders, content with victory and the safety they've brought their people? Howitzers, and tanks, and helicopters? I don't think that the Kurds have a lot of these items. (I am talking about the Kurds in Syria and Iraq, and not about those in Turkey). Right now they are the most "secular" fighting force out there in that region. Arming them is much better than arming the cowards of the Iraqi army, as the US have been doing till now.
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September 03, 2014, 08:30:58 PM |
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2 US journalists beheaded by the ISIS militants, who are fighting against the US. At the same time, Russian journalist Andrei Stenin was murdered by Right Sector extremists, who are supported by the US in Ukraine. I just hope that Obama condemns all these murders. Murder of journalists should be dealt with, whether they are done by the anti-US or the pro-US factions.
The left, of course, would rather talk about Ferguson, Michael Brown, and Darren Wilson, and ignore Obama's fecklessness. We don't send American troops back into that cesspool. Obama pulled them out and gave up all the ground they had gained, now we do NOT ask them to go back and die some more for the same real estate and the same raghead assholes. Why do you think it is necessary to always lie. It was Bush and condie that gave all the ground back and you know it but continue to lie. What is wrong with your brain that you keep spewing out what you know damn well are lies. What on Earth are you babbling about this time? Bush handed Obama a peaceful Iraq, and Joe Biden even bragged that Obama would get the credit: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HOcPCrGRs6kThis was in 2010, long after Bush left office! Then, against all advice to the contrary, Obama pulled out all the troops and left Iraq defended only by very green troops, and we saw what happened when they faced ISIS! They ran. A number of actions taken by Obama have increased the power base of radical Muslims. A number of inactions taken by Obama have incresed the power base of radical Muslims. A number of domestic attacks by radical Muslims have been relabled by Obama to not be attacks by radical Muslims. This guy, Obama, sure is starting to look like he likes radical Muslims.
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September 04, 2014, 04:15:48 AM |
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I dont know what Obama is cooking right now. 2 innocent foreign are dead because of this thing called freedom. Obama should move now. He said he is not threatened by it but still he should strike back now.
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September 04, 2014, 06:41:27 AM |
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I dont know what Obama is cooking right now. 2 innocent foreign are dead because of this thing called freedom. Obama should move now. He said he is not threatened by it but still he should strike back now.
May be Obama is thinking that the ISIS pose no threat to mainland US and therefore he doesn't need to bother about them. Also, his term will come to an end in 2-years time. He don't want to tarnish his reputation by undertaking another war, causing thousands of American casualties. But what will happen if the ISIS launch a terror attack in the mainland US?
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September 04, 2014, 12:57:10 PM |
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Of all the things I've heard said about GWB, timid responses were not among them. I doubt anyone considered him overly cautious. He certainly believed in American military adventurism. However, the basis of Obama's foreign policy seems to be that if it doesn't directly affect American interests, or American citizens, he really doesn't want to interfere too much. These people are essentially forcing him to address people getting murdered specifically because they are American. They are making it his business. I'm not moved by it. If someone comes to the US, kills a journalist on our soil, films it, posts it, then leaves, we have a problem. But in this case, I can't help but see this as an occupational hazard. This is to say, I don't think it is reasonable to expect US foreign policy to be built around the idea that anyone with an American passport can traipse around the globe and dig into the most awful places, reporting on the most awful people and events, and whoever messes with said passport-holder, that's who we go to war with. And you are atypical. This sort of thing has an impact on the president, even though I generally agree with the policy of moving away from military adventurism when at all rational. I may not like it, but it's also reality. The US isn't ready yet to take a less aggressive world view.
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September 04, 2014, 01:18:05 PM |
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This is very sad. Unfortunately, this will keep happening until ISIS is stopped.
Or, when obama is no longer president.
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zolace
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September 04, 2014, 01:20:00 PM |
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Of all the things I've heard said about GWB, timid responses were not among them. I doubt anyone considered him overly cautious. He certainly believed in American military adventurism. However, the basis of Obama's foreign policy seems to be that if it doesn't directly affect American interests, or American citizens, he really doesn't want to interfere too much. These people are essentially forcing him to address people getting murdered specifically because they are American. They are making it his business. I'm not moved by it. If someone comes to the US, kills a journalist on our soil, films it, posts it, then leaves, we have a problem. But in this case, I can't help but see this as an occupational hazard. This is to say, I don't think it is reasonable to expect US foreign policy to be built around the idea that anyone with an American passport can traipse around the globe and dig into the most awful places, reporting on the most awful people and events, and whoever messes with said passport-holder, that's who we go to war with. And you are atypical. This sort of thing has an impact on the president, even though I generally agree with the policy of moving away from military adventurism when at all rational. I may not like it, but it's also reality. The US isn't ready yet to take a less aggressive world view. I can't see how military adventurism or aggressive world views tie into the current situation. The air attacks against IS, that these murders are purportedly a response to, are neither adventurism nor the result of an aggressive world view. In fact our response in that region so far is markedly less aggressive than the last time we played air strikes/ground assault and assholes over there, so I really don't get what you mean.
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