[Theory] Hal Finney & Satoshi Nakamoto created bitcoin

[bitbets]

Hal Finney and Dorian Satoshi Nakamoto both lived in Temple City, California, a smallish place with just over 30,000 residents.

I wonder why they would have used their real names though, if/when they created bitcoin?

One reason to use their real names, might be because they really didn't think bitcoin would amount to much,
so didn't think it was a big deal to use their real names.
Would you want all the attention they got, as bitcoin became more and more popular?

Surely, if they thought it would become as popular as it has become, they would have used secret names instead,
to cover up their identities?




Hal Finney's afflictions & the effect on the creation of bitcoin
http://www.smartcoin.boards.net/thread/47/hal-finneys-afflictions-effect-creation

[CliveK]

Read up about what happened to the creators of alternate currencies in the USA in and around the 1990s to before Bitcoin was created and you will understand why someone would want to remain anonymous.

[Dogtanian]

Who said Satoshi Nakamoto lives in Temple City, California, or are you going by that guy who got outed as Satoshi a while ago?

Read up about what happened to the creators of alternate currencies in the USA in and around the 1990s to before Bitcoin was created and you will understand why someone would want to remain anonymous.

Links to this?

[CliveK]

I made no claim or comment on Nakamoto at all.

[Yeezus]

I made no claim or comment on Nakamoto at all.

I don't think he said you did. His first point was obviously in response to op, the bit after your quote looks to be directed to you.

[CliveK]

Liberty Dollar is a good starting point.

I know there is E-Gold, Digicash, and eCash, and Liberty Dollar.

Google them.  Most forced out the market by the 3rd party trust companies, but others failed for other reasons.

There is a chapter on it in the Bitcoin Exposed book.  My interest is more in that there were crytocurrencies before Bitcoin.  Bitcoin is crypto 2.0 or as someone said on the forum, Bitcoin is an Altcoin

[Beliathon]

Links to this?

About the raid: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJhMwxL_KR8

interview with Bernand von Nothaus: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=argq_cxalZ8

Ron Paul being asked about it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XhWRDP8v9ss

[R2D221]

and Dorian Satoshi Nakamoto

Now you're just making stuff up.

[iluvpie60]

please stop making baseless claims about stuff. so what if someone lived somewhere. it doesnt prove anything and STOP POSTING FUDDDDDD


It gets really annoying seeing FUD spreadddd

anyways, it does not matter who did what. the source code is open to see. no one needs to know who created it as we can all see the code and see what it does and analyze it. this has been done and thats why people are using this protocol.

[MUFC]

and Dorian Satoshi Nakamoto

Now you're just making stuff up.

He's obviously talking about the 'real' Satoshi Nakamoto guy ie not our bitcoin Satoshi as they bothe lived in the same City. See here: http://www.forbes.com/sites/andygreenberg/2014/03/25/satoshi-nakamotos-neighbor-the-bitcoin-ghostwriter-who-wasnt/

[2double0]

This could and can be completely logical!! 

[dompsairs]

Links to this?

About the raid: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJhMwxL_KR8

interview with Bernand von Nothaus: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=argq_cxalZ8

Ron Paul being asked about it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XhWRDP8v9ss

Damn yo thats scary, no wonder sato went the anon route.

[bitbets]

and Dorian Satoshi Nakamoto

Now you're just making stuff up.

He's obviously talking about the 'real' Satoshi Nakamoto guy ie not our bitcoin Satoshi as they bothe lived in the same City. See here: http://www.forbes.com/sites/andygreenberg/2014/03/25/satoshi-nakamotos-neighbor-the-bitcoin-ghostwriter-who-wasnt/

That is the story I was reading, that gave me the theory about dorian satoshi nakamoto and hal finney creating bitcoin.

I just found it odd that they used their real names.
It also seems very obvious that these two fellows lived in the same small town/city of 30,000 people, and if any of you ever lived in a small town like that, you would realize that these two guys easily could have known each other.
It seems obvious that these two fellows created bitcoin.

Another theory:
It seems to indicate that someone else created bitcoin, but used satoshi nakamoto's and hal finney's names when they did that?
But who would do that, and why would they scapegoat satoshi nakamoto and hal finney?


Ok, so it makes more sense to me, that we consider theories that explain why these two high trained persons may have used their real names to create bitcoin; or why would others scapegoat or use their names to create bitcoin?

Why might they point the finger at themselves?
Or, why might others point the finger at them?

you do realize that the satoshi nakamoto or hal finney accounts may have been compromised?(maybe those accounts were used by someone else? not by those people?)
that the info provided by those accounts might not be true?
I noticed how most people think that those accounts tell the truth always?

So then, attempting to discern the truth, requires reading between the lines then, doesn't it?
(not 'conspiracy'. Reading between the lines. )

[tilray]

Please share conspiracy stories here http://cryptoconspiracy.com/

[bitbets]

The story presented about satoshi nakamoto and hal finney, requires READING BETWEEN THE LINES
not conspiracy
People with deeper understandings of life situations and events will know what I mean.
If the pieces of the presented story do not seem to fit together quite right(and I dont think they do),
then we have to try and reason and figure it out for ourselves.

Do you really think that I and others are so stupid?

When Dorian satoshi nakamoto was first confronted(and there are police officers who witnessed his statements),
he said: "I am not involved with bitcoin anymore" ( I think that is what it was)

Anymore. Anymore is the key word there.
That means he was involved with bitcoin, and his name is satoshi nakamoto.
Now, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to see that satoshi nakamoto and hal finney lived in the same small town,
and hal finney is the first person to receive a transaction from satoshi nakamoto.
So, we therefore know who created bitcoin then.
maybe they were in the same room when satoshi sent hal the first bitcoin transaction from one computer to another.
they were visiting you know.
No mystery anymore

[BitcoinFX]

The story presented about satoshi nakamoto and hal finney, requires READING BETWEEN THE LINES
not conspiracy
People with deeper understandings of life situations and events will know what I mean.
If the pieces of the presented story do not seem to fit together quite right(and I dont think they do),
then we have to try and reason and figure it out for ourselves.

Do you really think that I and others are so stupid?

When Dorian satoshi nakamoto was first confronted(and there are police officers who witnessed his statements),
he said: "I am not involved with bitcoin anymore" ( I think that is what it was)

Anymore. Anymore is the key word there.
That means he was involved with bitcoin, and his name is satoshi nakamoto.
Now, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to see that satoshi nakamoto and hal finney lived in the same small town,
and hal finney is the first person to receive a transaction from satoshi nakamoto.
So, we therefore know who created bitcoin then.
maybe they were in the same room when satoshi sent hal the first bitcoin transaction from one computer to another.
they were visiting you know.
No mystery anymore

You just have to pay attention to the stop signs. The 'truth' is probably so much more complex than we might all imagine. The Cypherpunks built Bitcoin.

See: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=358790.msg8484376#msg8484376

"The creation of cryptocurrencies is technically illegal and could be prosecuted under title 18 U.S.C. 336, Sec. 336. which states “Whoever makes, issues, circulates, or pays out any note, check, memorandum, token, or other obligation for a less sum than $1, intended to circulate as money or to be received or used in lieu of lawful money of the United States, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than six months, or both.” However, this statute hasn’t been enforced in a published court opinion since 1899, a good sign for the budding currency."

Source: http://invisiblemoneydocumentary.wordpress.com/2013/12/29/fincen-on-the-legality-and-classification-of-creating-bitcoins-in-the-usa/

[bitbets]

Thanks for the feedback, BitcoinFX, I am continually learning.

I think I have an interesting theory to share with you all,
at the link below:

Hal Finney's afflictions & the effect on the creation of bitcoin
http://www.smartcoin.boards.net/thread/47/hal-finneys-afflictions-effect-creation

[whysosweet]

This is an interesting theory but in my point of view the only creator was Satoshi.

[franky1]

bill bags,

many hundreds of people were and are trying to create money every day. and the entity known of satoshi DID gather idea's, concepts and theories from many sources. such as hal finney and nick szabo. but it was only satoshi that put all of these idea's together into its unique and beautiful functional form that we know today.

this does not mean that satoshi was these people, nor does it mean that he knew these other people personally, nor does it prove that these people used his username.

imagine the conspiracy theorists trying to assume identification of satoshi, like trying to identify the creator of a car. by knowing the cave man invented fire by burning oil, or making the wheel. to then say that without the "combustion" element or the wheel, a car would notexist, thus the inventor of the car was assumed by these conspiracy theorists to be a caveman.

now that you have understood that although combustion and wheel technology has been around for thousands of years. it wasnt until the 19th century that someone invented the car by utilizing other peoples experiments, inventions and skills, without even having to know or speak to the inventors of the original elements that built up a car.

all we can be certain with is that 'satoshi' did collaborate with a few people like hal finney. and also grab other existent theories and code from other sources. but it was as i already said, only the entity known as satoshi that put it all together beautifully

[notthematrix]

@Billbags

almost exactly except for the  decentral part.................
and that is the genius about the bitcoin protocol and makes it so mutch diffrent!
Bitcoins acts as a life form ,,,, and thats how it is created , we are still debating were live comes from.
and so we will be debating were bitcoin comes form

Its not impotant who created it , now it is here it can never be undone , so who ever created it will live for ever