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April 16, 2012, 08:23:04 PM
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That is, if they didn't already. Went to use BitInstant this morning to transfer money from Dwolla and got this nonsense:




SSN? Link to a social network? I guess one like FaceBook so that they can track you better?? What kind of bullshit is this?
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April 16, 2012, 08:24:35 PM
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I believe this is more of a Dwolla thing and less a BitInstant thing. It seems Dwolla has implemented some changes recently and this is sadly one of them.

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April 16, 2012, 08:29:09 PM
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I believe this is more of a Dwolla thing and less a BitInstant thing. It seems Dwolla has implemented some changes recently and this is sadly one of them.

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April 16, 2012, 09:20:40 PM
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Just use trustcash and deposit cash in a bank.
Better than waiting 30 days for Dwolla, or that really stupid 'Social networking' requirement.

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April 16, 2012, 09:37:50 PM
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They've officially sucked since they made unauthorized withdrawals from Tradehill's account and then erased old transactions from already issued account statements to try to hide it. Don't give your business to thieves.

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April 16, 2012, 10:27:04 PM
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Just use trustcash and deposit cash in a bank.
Better than waiting 30 days for Dwolla, or that really stupid 'Social networking' requirement.



I only use Dwolla so that I can trade on InterSango and CampBX. Other than that, I keep a $0 balance over there.

Ben Milne seems like a tool of the banks and generally a douche. I mean really, a Facebook requirement?!?! If someone ever sets up Jim Bell's "Assassination Marketplace", I got $100 for someone to kick his ass.

Seems they are just doing this for marketing.  They can see who your friends are and try to get them to use Dwolla.  Just plug in a fake facebook page with no friends.

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April 16, 2012, 10:29:28 PM
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They've officially sucked since they made unauthorized withdrawals from Tradehill's account and then erased old transactions from already issued account statements to try to hide it. Don't give your business to thieves.

I know, I know..."thieves" is being polite. Hopefully Intersango and CampBX will offer other withdrawal methods, but it seems they're all partners in statism.
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April 16, 2012, 11:37:23 PM
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They've officially sucked since they made unauthorized withdrawals from Tradehill's account and then erased old transactions from already issued account statements to try to hide it. Don't give your business to thieves.

I know, I know..."thieves" is being polite. Hopefully Intersango and CampBX will offer other withdrawal methods, but it seems they're all partners in statism.

There is a real lack of options in the "non reversible" payments industry.
That claim is what drew us (not just TradeHill all of Bitcoin) to Dwolla in the first place. Obviously the rest of society doesn't all share that need.

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April 17, 2012, 08:11:45 PM
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So here are some of the claims that Dwolla made to me today:

It is totally within their right to change their terms and conditions of using their service without giving any prionotice to their customers. That's right, despite any existing contract law, Dwolla can just change contract midstream , and they don't even have to tell people.

To move money out of Dwolla, you MUST either link to a bank account, or supply a SSN, and be part of Facebook or Twitter.

I told them that I didn't have an SSN, and that SSNs were technically only for Federal employees and it was a felony for me to claim to have one, and their manager, Ian, told me that that wasn't "germaine" to the conversation and had to hang up.

These guys are just purely criminal. I already knew because of what happened to Tradehill but I wanted to trade on the exchanges that take dwolla so I used them anyway.

I guess I just paid for it. Lesson learned. Fuck Dwolla, fuck their employees and their dogs and children as well. May they all die of anal cancer.
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April 17, 2012, 10:18:15 PM
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May they all die of anal cancer.

LOLLLLLLLLL sorry that was too funny. I just picture Ben Milne lying sideways in some hospital bed ...
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April 17, 2012, 10:20:21 PM
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May they all die of anal cancer.

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April 17, 2012, 11:43:44 PM
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Email their support and tell them you want to cancel the account. I did it today, as well as others I saw in another thread. The more people that do this, maybe they will get the message.

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April 18, 2012, 12:11:47 AM
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So here are some of the claims that Dwolla made to me today:

It is totally within their right to change their terms and conditions of using their service without giving any prionotice to their customers. That's right, despite any existing contract law, Dwolla can just change contract midstream , and they don't even have to tell people.

To move money out of Dwolla, you MUST either link to a bank account, or supply a SSN, and be part of Facebook or Twitter.

I told them that I didn't have an SSN, and that SSNs were technically only for Federal employees and it was a felony for me to claim to have one, and their manager, Ian, told me that that wasn't "germaine" to the conversation and had to hang up.

These guys are just purely criminal. I already knew because of what happened to Tradehill but I wanted to trade on the exchanges that take dwolla so I used them anyway.

I guess I just paid for it. Lesson learned. Fuck Dwolla, fuck their employees and their dogs and children as well. May they all die of anal cancer.

They didn't ask for your real SSN did they? They only ask for your SSN.

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April 18, 2012, 12:45:14 AM
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So they need FULL CONTROL of your social network accounts to verify you?



Interesting, to say the least... Has anybody contacted the EFF about this? I bet they will be thrilled!

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April 18, 2012, 01:30:36 AM
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Incidentally, two threads regarding this policy change by Dwolla:

 - http://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=76866.0;all
 - http://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=76571.msg853929#msg853929

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April 18, 2012, 03:43:02 AM
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They've officially sucked since they made unauthorized withdrawals from Tradehill's account and then erased old transactions from already issued account statements to try to hide it. Don't give your business to thieves.

I know, I know..."thieves" is being polite. Hopefully Intersango and CampBX will offer other withdrawal methods, but it seems they're all partners in statism.

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April 18, 2012, 03:46:56 AM
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So here are some of the claims that Dwolla made to me today:

It is totally within their right to change their terms and conditions of using their service without giving any prionotice to their customers. That's right, despite any existing contract law, Dwolla can just change contract midstream , and they don't even have to tell people.

To move money out of Dwolla, you MUST either link to a bank account, or supply a SSN, and be part of Facebook or Twitter.

I told them that I didn't have an SSN, and that SSNs were technically only for Federal employees and it was a felony for me to claim to have one, and their manager, Ian, told me that that wasn't "germaine" to the conversation and had to hang up.

These guys are just purely criminal. I already knew because of what happened to Tradehill but I wanted to trade on the exchanges that take dwolla so I used them anyway.

I guess I just paid for it. Lesson learned. Fuck Dwolla, fuck their employees and their dogs and children as well. May they all die of anal cancer.

They didn't ask for your real SSN did they? They only ask for your SSN.

I put some random digits the same length as an SSN and it accepted it o.O

But I'm still closing my account

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April 18, 2012, 03:47:32 AM
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They've officially sucked since they made unauthorized withdrawals from Tradehill's account and then erased old transactions from already issued account statements to try to hide it. Don't give your business to thieves.

I know, I know..."thieves" is being polite. Hopefully Intersango and CampBX will offer other withdrawal methods, but it seems they're all partners in statism.

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     We support several withdrawal methods besides Dwolla, including my personal favorite USPS Money Orders.  We will also add couple of more methods soon.

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Good thing to hear. Personally, I think dwolla is starting to go under.

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April 18, 2012, 03:56:02 AM
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So here are some of the claims that Dwolla made to me today:

It is totally within their right to change their terms and conditions of using their service without giving any prionotice to their customers. That's right, despite any existing contract law, Dwolla can just change contract midstream , and they don't even have to tell people.

To move money out of Dwolla, you MUST either link to a bank account, or supply a SSN, and be part of Facebook or Twitter.

I told them that I didn't have an SSN, and that SSNs were technically only for Federal employees and it was a felony for me to claim to have one, and their manager, Ian, told me that that wasn't "germaine" to the conversation and had to hang up.

These guys are just purely criminal. I already knew because of what happened to Tradehill but I wanted to trade on the exchanges that take dwolla so I used them anyway.

I guess I just paid for it. Lesson learned. Fuck Dwolla, fuck their employees and their dogs and children as well. May they all die of anal cancer.

They didn't ask for your real SSN did they? They only ask for your SSN.

I put some random digits the same length as an SSN and it accepted it o.O

But I'm still closing my account

I just logged in and was asked to identify my gender, "Male, female or other" and my employeer identification number since I have a business account.  Since when did businesses have sex organs?

Anyway, maybe we should have a stock letter to close a Dwolla account for bitcoin users to really send a message.

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April 18, 2012, 04:25:12 AM
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Dwolla certainly has sex organs as they really fuck up a LOT!

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