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Author Topic: Random 0.00001 BTC from Laxo Trade?  (Read 15079 times)
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October 01, 2014, 04:35:20 AM
Last edit: October 01, 2014, 09:32:53 AM by Grand_Voyageur
 #181

Actually got one dust payment of 0.1 mBTC on my profile's BTC address.

Seriously, you could just copy and paste 10k addresses, they would pick them up, Im sure they are just scraping the site and paying varied amounts. The most ive seen is .0002 I think. They can send those to me all day long, might not be much now, but in 10 years, it might be a few hundred bucks, lol.... Other groups are starting to do this as well. one that I dont want to receive has the initals CP, you can figure it out, their sig starts out 1cpXXX or something.. Im thinking about sending what they sent me back with a note, "not interested" but that just might cause them to send me more..Thats something that should be implemented some time.. a way to block addresses.

Has anyone gotten a payment from an address posted on the forum but that has never had money sent to it? From reports of others that have received payments to change addresses, I think that they might be getting addresses from the blockchain and not scraping this site.
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Yes. The 0.1 mBTC payment on my profile's BTC address was on a never used before one.


There were many questions here and PMs about how I made so many addresses, so I figured I would write and share a Python program everyone can use to make addresses and use it to spam up the forum so Laxo trade sends their money where it can actually be spent.

Not a good idea to be telling people how to do this otherwise this forum will be full of newbs spamming up the place with addresses  Grin.

Noobs get no BTC or a useless 1 satoshi from these guys anyway.

That's not going to stop them spamming addresses  Cheesy. I got 0.0001 from this and I think some Full Members or Snrs even got 0.001.

They seems to not consider ranking/activity but post count instead. I got as much dust as one Member but my Ranking is still Newbie. Nevertheless i'll follow deepceleron approach to try to validate my idea about their using post count instead of ranking activity; so, I put a few 360 BTC addresses to check if they receive the same 0,1 mBTC of a Member or the 1 satoshi as the Noobs.  Cool

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October 01, 2014, 09:21:45 AM
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There were many questions here and PMs about how I made so many addresses, so I figured I would write and share a Python program everyone can use to make addresses and use it to spam up the forum so Laxo trade sends their money where it can actually be spent.

Not a good idea to be telling people how to do this otherwise this forum will be full of newbs spamming up the place with addresses  Grin.

Noobs get no BTC or a useless 1 satoshi from these guys anyway.

That's not going to stop them spamming addresses  Cheesy. I got 0.0001 from this and I think some Full Members or Snrs even got 0.001.

Not that bad amount just for free. Tongue
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Anyone have an estimate on how many megabyes Laxo Trade has contributed to the blockchain due to their spamming?
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October 01, 2014, 01:04:16 PM
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They seem to send them to people both randomly - maybe getting their addresses from here - but also when a transaction is sent to that wallet. The last couple of times I had bitcoin sent to me I got a spam payment very shortly after each time.
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October 01, 2014, 01:44:36 PM
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WOW, OKAY.

I forgot I made this thread, and I come back to discover it has 100+ replies.

Anyway, I received another 'dust' payment from Laxo Trade of 0.001 BTC again.

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October 01, 2014, 01:49:18 PM
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Another question,
How long has LaxoTrade been around for?

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October 01, 2014, 02:00:13 PM
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Another question,
How long has LaxoTrade been around for?

I checked some HYIP monitors and they said Laxo Trade has been around for quite some time, several months actually.

Not sure of when they started specifically, but the domain was registered in February, and some monitors have been monitoring Laxo Trade since then.

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October 01, 2014, 02:35:27 PM
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im still receiving those 0.00000001BTC time to time, i can understand why they are doing it instead of "spamming"


Anyway, I received another 'dust' payment from Laxo Trade of 0.001 BTC again.

yes some  days agoo i received it too, i was asking to myselft wtf was that... because helll 0.001BTCfor free?. i was thinking i was the only one who received it.

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i have recieved 0.00000001 twice.. don't know who and why he sent it... there even no advertising with it..
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October 02, 2014, 05:22:34 AM
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Another question,
How long has LaxoTrade been around for?

I checked some HYIP monitors and they said Laxo Trade has been around for quite some time, several months actually.

Not sure of when they started specifically, but the domain was registered in February, and some monitors have been monitoring Laxo Trade since then.
I don't think they have been advertising this long on the bockchain however i do believe that they have been sending blockchain spam for some time now, although not to the point that people have been noticing at levels they have been recently. From what I can see they have semi-recently increased the amounts and frequency they are paying people who have posted a bitcoin address

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October 02, 2014, 06:58:03 AM
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Nope just received a 1 satoshi transfer few days ago to a website account "operators automatically list those as confirmed so I didn't care about when/if it will be confirmed. 0.00001BTC is big compared to other blockchain spammers transactions sizes.
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October 02, 2014, 09:23:01 AM
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Actually I received 0.0001 BTC from Laxo Trade. But Im surprised they are still operating given how much interest they giving...
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October 02, 2014, 09:23:58 AM
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Looks like newbs don't need to bother wasting time with faucets now. All you need to do is post your addresses here and you'll get some free spamcoins  Grin.
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Do you think that they are legit?

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October 02, 2014, 04:42:59 PM
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Do you think that they are legit?

I don't know what you mean by 'legit', but if you mean that they're paying, then yes, they do in fact pay people that use their site at this time.

However, the questions you have to ask is how long are they going to keep the site running? Laxo Trade seems like a HYIP, and most HYIPs only last a month or so, sometimes less, sometimes more.

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Laxo Trade seems like a HYIP, and most HYIPs only last a month or so, sometimes less, sometimes more.

It's called a Ponzi.
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October 02, 2014, 05:25:47 PM
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Do you think that they are legit?

I don't know what you mean by 'legit', but if you mean that they're paying, then yes, they do in fact pay people that use their site at this time.

However, the questions you have to ask is how long are they going to keep the site running? Laxo Trade seems like a HYIP, and most HYIPs only last a month or so, sometimes less, sometimes more.

Well according to their addresses, they seem to be doing very well. But you're right, how long do you think they will last for?

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October 02, 2014, 05:28:05 PM
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Well according to their addresses, they seem to be doing very well. But you're right, how long do you think they will last for?

Never take a Ponzi's addresses as evidence for anything. They could be paying small returns to fish for the big investments. They could be faking _all_ investments. How would you ever know which adddress belongs to whom?
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Warning!!

Hasn't anyone considered the possibility that these mysterious "spam" deposits could be worse than spam??  Three possibilities come to mind (I received numerous mBTC myself and started searching for answers when I found this thread fyi).

I have not yet explored the Laxo and other similar spammer sites because of my concerns below. I hope you all are taking proper precautions (using computers that do not have your wallet on them, using TOR, etc.) before doing your exploration and/or hope I am wrong/unjustly paranoid ..

Some things to be worried about, for example: 

1) Classic trojan attack with a bitcoin twist.  When users go to the Laxo site (or whatever) they are offered downloads and/or exposed to browser scripts that are malicious.  Just like trojan emails.  A well designed attack using bitcoin mBTC bait would then scan for unencrypted wallets, unlocked mining machines, etc. - pretty easy to do.

2) Government surveillance.  Let's say I am a government interested in tracking users who are purchasing illicit items using bitcoin (like Silk Road RIP).  How do I find the identity of users so I can link them to transactions on the blockchain?  If I were such an organization, I would need to link an illicit purchase using bitcoin to a specific real world identity.  Hard thing to do if the bad actor is using TOR!!  So, instead, why not seed thousands (millions?) of wallets with small BTC amounts.  These micro BTC deposits would be made into wallets of known and/or traceable users (like those of us online at bitcointalk) who would then spend the btc.   The spent BTC goes from user to user to user and (if enough of these "spam" deposits are made) will eventually end up in the wallets of a target bad actor providing a possible means of identifying him.  As a simple example, lets say I sell 1 BTC via localbitcoins to a person live for cash. This person turns out to use the BTC for something illegal (guns, drugs, etc.)  My wallet automatically chooses the inputs which happen to include one of the .00001 BTC deposits.  I may not even have noticed this, but now the authorities have a way of tracing the BTC used by the illegal actor back to me.  It may not be enough to get to the real bad actor, but it gives them a substantial lead (because I could give a description and details that could lead them to the identity of the person they seek).  Moreover, if they "salt and pepper" the blockchain with enough mBTC, they can start to use statistical methods to zero in on suspects by tracing many different transactions that use these baited mBTC.
 
3) Government setups/traps.  Just like with "To Catch a Predator" on NBC, why not send out mBTC laced with info leading to child porn sites?  Now, anyone who visits those sites can be tracked in two ways potentially (1) via the wallet address linked to an online idenity scraped from this site, and/or (2) via IP address when the poor sick schmuck visits one of those sites and attempts a download.

I don't endorse any illegal activity, but I am in favor of keeping my purchasing history and identity safe from collection and aggregation.  Is anyone else concerned about these deposits might be other than merely spam?  Why not?

Also, is there any way in the standard bitcoin wallet to say that I do not want to spend these particular coins without going to fully manual allocation of inputs?


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