kiba
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May 10, 2011, 02:46:12 AM |
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What you perceive as "the right place" might be perceived differently by other people, so why don't you leave things where they are and save some time for yourself and other?
My sorting algorithm is about 99% accurate as far as I am concerned.
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mewantsbitcoins
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May 10, 2011, 02:47:53 AM |
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My sorting algorithm is about 99% accurate as far as I am concerned.
You must be joking
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kiba
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May 10, 2011, 02:48:29 AM |
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Nobody complains. I consider that a "yes".
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mewantsbitcoins
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May 10, 2011, 02:50:04 AM |
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I admire your determination, but that's just stupid
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kiba
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May 10, 2011, 02:56:53 AM |
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I admire your determination, but that's just stupid
Don't like the moving? Complain each and every time I moved something. Than I'll stop moving anything. Right now, it looks to me to be the first complaint about an everyday routine maintenance activity.
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FreeMoney
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May 10, 2011, 03:14:49 AM |
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I don't think Kiba was saying that he doesn't care what people think. I think he was saying that he doesn't care which section this particular post goes in. Sorry, Kiba, if I'm wrong and being presumptuous.
In general I don't think there is usually one right section for a post. If someone wants economic analysis of a subject or thought they'll put it there. They might put the exact same post in say project development if they are more interested in the logistics of actually doing the thing or want help or something.
A good rule would be to trust that someone with 100+ posts knows about all the sections and made an informed decision about where to place a thread unless it is totally obviously wrong. Like a WTB in Meta, people sometimes mistakenly think they are in a different forum. Noobs though are more often careless, and also less likely to have a strong desire for putting it in a certain place. I don't start many threads, but if I do I know I want them where I put them.
So, more deference to old-timers and more 'help' for newbies imo. And less moving in general, though I know some of it is just transitional.
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kiba
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May 10, 2011, 03:21:03 AM |
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I don't think Kiba was saying that he doesn't care what people think. I think he was saying that he doesn't care which section this particular post goes in. Sorry, Kiba, if I'm wrong and being presumptuous.
Right. I don't really fight hard when push come to shove. A few posts back and forth about a particular thread in question should be the end of it. On the other hand, I am highly amused by people asserting their independence against me as if it were for the very spirit of the forum. Folks, this is just maintenance. No need to blow it out of proportion.
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Alex Beckenham
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May 10, 2011, 03:22:31 AM |
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I don't mind all the moving, however I'd prefer if it just got completely moved, without leaving behind a message saying where it went.
All those little empty "This has been moved" threads are annoying.
People can always use the search if they're looking for something specific.
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mewantsbitcoins
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May 10, 2011, 03:24:32 AM |
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I don't think Kiba was saying that he doesn't care what people think. I think he was saying that he doesn't care which section this particular post goes in. Sorry, Kiba, if I'm wrong and being presumptuous.
Right. I don't really fight hard when push come to shove. A few posts back and forth about a particular thread in question should be the end of it. On the other hand, I am highly amused by people asserting their independence against me as if it were for the very spirit of the forum. Folks, this is just maintenance. No need to blow it out of proportion. Have you ever wondered why you are the only mod feeling the need to move threads?
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kiba
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May 10, 2011, 03:25:13 AM |
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Have you ever wondered why you are the only mod feeling the need to move threads?
No.
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kiba
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May 10, 2011, 03:27:45 AM |
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I don't mind all the moving, however I'd prefer if it just got completely moved, without leaving behind a message saying where it went.
All those little empty "This has been moved" threads are annoying.
People can always use the search if they're looking for something specific.
If you are a participant in a thread, you will be wondering where the thread goes.
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Alex Beckenham
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May 10, 2011, 03:47:43 AM |
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I don't mind all the moving, however I'd prefer if it just got completely moved, without leaving behind a message saying where it went.
All those little empty "This has been moved" threads are annoying.
People can always use the search if they're looking for something specific.
If you are a participant in a thread, you will be wondering where the thread goes. And then you will see the search feature and the earth will start rotating again.
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theymos
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May 10, 2011, 03:52:50 AM |
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OPs can move their topics back if they disagree with moves. Then we can have a discussion about whether it was appropriate.
A few of kiba's recent moves were unnecessary, IMO. I try not to move topics unless almost all people would agree with my categorization.
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May 10, 2011, 04:35:24 AM |
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this is a forum full of anarchists and hackers; you are moving their posts (infringing on their speech!). of course they get upset. Freedom of speech only applies on your own property. If these forums get too oppressive, we'll just make our own. That being said, I don't really see the point in organizing things too strictly. If I click on a thread entitled "the economics of Bitcoin" then I expect to see some economic discussion. I don't really care if it's in the "Bitcoin Discussion" or the "Economics" section. I doubt anyone is going to feel slighted. Then again, I don't really care about the moves either. I just like arguing.
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May 10, 2011, 07:00:05 AM |
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Isn't this the whole problem of items fitting into multiple categories. Threads should be tagged based on each category they fall under, not exclusively placed in one section.
@kiba: your lust for power will be your undoing. One day, the forum will rise up and take back what is theirs! You think you can just push us around, tell us where threads will go? We will not be subject to your tyranny much longer. Sleep with one eye open...
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May 10, 2011, 12:09:49 PM |
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Isn't this the whole problem of items fitting into multiple categories. Threads should be tagged based on each category they fall under, not exclusively placed in one section.
You're asking for something other than a message board..
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May 10, 2011, 12:22:43 PM |
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A hugely active board such as this one does need active moderation. I don't agree that what Kiba is doing is wrong. He's only putting things in the right place, not deleting them.
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fabianhjr
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May 10, 2011, 08:06:18 PM |
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He is also leaving a lot of "moved" messages, for which is completely unnecessary. Plus some changes are arguable, topics should only be moved if it is completely clear they are in the wrong section.
Also, his attitude of "don't care" isn't the best.
That is all this thread is about.
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kiba
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May 10, 2011, 09:48:50 PM |
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Also, his attitude of "don't care" isn't the best.
And you reported. He doesn't care, why should he be a mod? This is a pressing issue that must be resolved in a civil way. I am curious that people call for stripping my power simply because of the perceived excess categorization and simply because of my attitude. Perhaps, I will be stripped of my power. Big fricking deal. Other mods will be there to pick up the slack.
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Garrett Burgwardt
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May 10, 2011, 11:58:09 PM |
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Calling for stripping of powers seems silly. He's one of the most active members and obviously not malicious. I just say, relax a bit bud You're wasting your time trying to fit everything perfectly and making the forums look a bit cluttered Besides, I have enough trouble reading all the threads that show up already!
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