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October 27, 2014, 07:49:32 PM
Last edit: October 27, 2014, 09:55:32 PM by criptix
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thanks for posting, great article Smiley
although the last part the author mistook the atomic asset with the actual atomic coin - i will forward it to them Smiley

The author meant to give you the analysis of the coin itself for the last part Cheesy
edit: im the author btw Cheesy


hi great article and i understood that Smiley

But in the last part you described the "Atomic Asset" which will provide shareholders a part of the transaction fees as dividends (it can be purchased on the NXT Asset Exchange or Bter.com); the other part of the fees goes to the miner/full nodes who will get "Atomic Coins" for their network contribution.  So Atomic Asset =/= Atomic Coin
The exact numbers arent decided yet but will be released as soon as possible along the working process.
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October 27, 2014, 09:36:53 PM
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Please send me an email, you can find my email address on atomicdac.org on the contact page I'd love to see what approach you guys are taking, looking forward to the documentation Smiley
Will drop you a note when the paper is released! Smiley

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October 29, 2014, 03:13:47 PM
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Thanks to the amazing work of criptix we have now made it onto cointelegraph! I just finished reading this great article and I hope that you guys will be as happy as I am that this project is getting attention on media outlets like Coins Source and Coin Telegraph Smiley

Here's the article: http://cointelegraph.com/news/112812/atomic-a-decentralized-ledger-for-all-blockchain-based-technology

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October 29, 2014, 03:41:01 PM
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I actually also just stumbled upon this news article as well, my Russian isn't great now but it appears to be positive!
http://www.moneynews.ru/News/19067/

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October 29, 2014, 04:06:34 PM
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try explaining this shit to merchants...go ahead i dare ya  Grin

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October 29, 2014, 05:34:22 PM
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This is just the beginning the things just started to roll  Wink
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October 29, 2014, 08:41:23 PM
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Is there any more information about the asset - are the NXTVenture dividends the only assets which have been released? Are the 1 million on the AE the total number which will ever be created? Are there any plans to sell the rest in a crowdsale, or will they be sold as and when necessary or what?
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October 29, 2014, 09:49:26 PM
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Is there any more information about the asset - are the NXTVenture dividends the only assets which have been released? Are the 1 million on the AE the total number which will ever be created? Are there any plans to sell the rest in a crowdsale, or will they be sold as and when necessary or what?

As far as i know this will be the one and only.
no more will be created Smiley

There probaly will be another sale but that depends on cryptaxe and also peoples demand for the asset.
In any case there will be a public announcement to inform everyone, so no worries about a ninjasell or etc!
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October 31, 2014, 03:09:20 AM
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try explaining this shit to merchants...go ahead i dare ya  Grin

Already started!

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As far as i know this will be the one and only.
no more will be created Smiley

There probaly will be another sale but that depends on cryptaxe and also peoples demand for the asset.
In any case there will be a public announcement to inform everyone, so no worries about a ninjasell or etc!

The asset ID listed in the thread is the only one Smiley

I absolutely wont make a huge sell order without first alerting everyone as I did last time, seems that people would like me to release a bit more of my assets into the wild so I will consider another sell at some point in the near future if enough people would like me to!

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November 13, 2014, 01:14:42 AM
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Update and news roundup for those of you who haven't subscribed to the mailing list
although I assume most have as the number is getting up there.

*Last call for alpha testers, we will be beginning alpha testing of our API,
ledger process, and POG in just a few days and although we do have enough testers
this is the final call for anyone else who would like to be included before we
move on to the beta stage.
This is who I have approved so far for testing, I'm only
approving about 1/4 of the people who have asked for the
alpha but the beta is going to be open to everyone:
CryptAxe
Tigew (mobile dev team)
Skitter (mobile dev team)
eureka
criptix (community manager)
visual111
nine009
mamamae

Here is what the ATOMIC desktop wallet looks like right now for the alpha testers:



As you can see, transactions arrive in a queue very similar to bitcoin, however you can
see that the transactions show the source, and destination coin (if applicable) as well
as what type of transaction occurred. Double clicking any of these transactions will bring
you to our blockchain explorer which has been modified to suit our needs and display data
appended via the Proof Of Exchange process.

*Information for developers and future customers of the ATOMIC DAC:
note this is all trimmed down so it will fit on the forum, full contents
as well as examples of calling from different languages available soon
at atomicdac.org
API CALLS (examples shown in c++):
    /*
     * Check the status of the ATOMIC
     * network, the API of the exchange
     * selected, and the ATOMIC API
     *
     * Any result other than 0 indicates
     * that there is an issue
     *
     * CODES:
     * 0: Good
     * 1: Connection issues
     * 2: Overloaded
     * ..... etc
     */
unsigned int status();
    
Example:
AtomicAPI api;
if (api.status > 0) {
  std::cout << "The network cannot handle a request right now\n";
  }
    /*
     * Overloaded exchange function
     * will be passed an atomic
     * object directly instead of
     * having to create one from params
     * or data from socket
     */
unsigned int atomicExchange(AtomObject *aObject);
This will be the main way that customers and developers will communicate with the
ATOMIC network. The wallet generates atomobjects for every transaction, but developers
are able to actually generate them without the wallet, so that they can be sent over
an sslsocket, or via an http request to the ATOMIC network without the developer of
software which should make use of the ATOMIC ledger having to install or configure
their own nodes or wallet.

    /*
     * Check the transaction
     * at the ID specified.
     *
     * Return -1 if does not
     * exist
     *
     * Return 0 for exist but
     * no confirms
     *
     * Anything returned above
     * 0 will be additional
     * confirmations.
     *
     * ex: -1 = does not exist
     * 0 = exists with 0 confirms
     * 10 = exists with 10 confirmations
     *
     * *Stops counting at your systems limit
     */
    int checkTX(string txid);

    /*
     * return total amount spent
     * in transaction ID
     */
    float checkTXAmount(string txid);

checkTX and checkTXAmount are self explanitory.

You may be wondering how it is that we are going to do everything that we have talked
about with such a simple API. The reason for the simplicity is that the API calls
themselves have been designed in a way which we hope will allow for minimal changes
in the future to the API itself (good for compatibility) and instead make changes
to the atomobjects which are passed.

Okay that's too much of a wall of text already, go ahead and sign up for the mailing list
for more info and you should be seeing a sneak peak of the mobile wallet as well some time
soon from the mobile dev team who are wrapping up the mobile app (Android only for now)


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November 13, 2014, 01:47:01 AM
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Hey everyone and a good morning to you all! I'm just a little late to the introduction party so don't hate on me too much.

I'm one of the 2 devs working on the mobile app of Atomic. I'm a computer science major and love everything about it.
CryptAxe approached me with this idea of his and I jumped on board immediately, this surly is the future of inter-coin trading/spending.
This however is not the first project I've had the pleasure of working with CryptAxe, on during late 2013 we ran a cryptomining operation
right before scrypt for ASICs happened. We are a dedicated group teaming with energy ready to produce a product to the best of our
abilities, just don't expect the mobile app to be the prettiest, we are focusing on utility first  Wink.

We chose the name Covalent for the app because we feel that Atomic is very much like a covalent bond, electrons being shared
between to atoms or currencies being tradable between 2 block chains with seamless automation, another reason we chose this
name in particular is how the app will work by pairing itself to your client at home or to the blockchains network. We are shooting
for a minimalist design we would rather have function over form.

That intro aside I'm posting here today to not only introduce myself but get some feedback on the current look of the application
as well as the icon that we will be using for the it.

http://i.imgur.com/XYTFK5l.png http://i.imgur.com/TV3PVaW.png http://i.imgur.com/scGyYmV.png

http://i.imgur.com/mCDn0Dt.png  http://i.imgur.com/C7PI6FZ.png  http://i.imgur.com/N8Cr1ZL.png  http://i.imgur.com/f31hYA5.png  http://i.imgur.com/bCZin3S.png 
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November 13, 2014, 06:11:00 AM
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Hello everyone i'm ready to start testing ,
for android i can test almost any app
on one hundred phone and android sistem
 Grin

reality ? you fell to Scammers after being in an ICO , IPO
(more like any other stock and index in the world ICO or not got your portfolio down 25 % or 85 %)
Now  SEC is helping you getting back up your lost money maybe....
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November 13, 2014, 07:24:48 AM
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Good ,News !


I'm ready!
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November 13, 2014, 07:47:50 AM
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Awesome stuff and kinda way faster then i though Wink

Cant wait for the starting of the alpha testing
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November 14, 2014, 07:13:13 PM
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dropping by to post that I am ready for alpha testing!






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November 15, 2014, 11:12:11 AM
Last edit: November 16, 2014, 06:07:40 PM by mamamae
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there is a way to have a site like this with for any alt coin
as escrow ? :
https://trustatom.com/contracts/new/joint-escrow
LTCD is in the making i feel is coming to be part of Atomic


reality ? you fell to Scammers after being in an ICO , IPO
(more like any other stock and index in the world ICO or not got your portfolio down 25 % or 85 %)
Now  SEC is helping you getting back up your lost money maybe....
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November 16, 2014, 08:46:44 PM
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there is a way to have a site like this with for any alt coin
as escrow ? :
https://trustatom.com/contracts/new/joint-escrow
LTCD is in the making i feel is coming to be part of Atomic




One of the greatest aspects of a DAC is that I really have no control (and I don't want to) of who actually makes use of the ATOMIC API. This website could definitely make use of the ATOMIC ledger, and if they were interested in working with me I have actually already been thinking up ways in which we could handle escrow with any coin on the ATOMIC network. Did you just stumble upon this or do you know the developers? I'd love to chat with them

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November 17, 2014, 08:25:05 AM
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i'm part of the comunity the team is Trolloffire great programmer, but is sick now
so litecoindarkdev e xircom the guy for the android wallet and PR
nothing sure the coin is in the making but this week updates with pos and finally
is made anonymous.
i wanted to know because the site i mentioned make 2 party deposit btc
and the site became the escrow
but there is a flaw if the 2 party don't want to release the funds
the coin rest in the site hands
like bitbet does
if there was a time limit to fulfill the contract for the 2 party
would be like :
 i have a coin i sell an ipo the money are in escrow with the atomic site
so the coin has the intrinsec value so no premine needed for the dev and the coin has always
a value
and if after 2 month the value isn't more than the value of the ipo
who has the coin can retake the money back as little under the ipo price
as fimn does

reality ? you fell to Scammers after being in an ICO , IPO
(more like any other stock and index in the world ICO or not got your portfolio down 25 % or 85 %)
Now  SEC is helping you getting back up your lost money maybe....
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November 17, 2014, 09:03:56 AM
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wow. you use OP_RETURN for this.. even bitcoin core developers are against this kind of usage since you bloat the chain.
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November 17, 2014, 10:12:46 PM
Last edit: November 18, 2014, 12:04:07 AM by CryptAxe
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wow. you use OP_RETURN for this.. even bitcoin core developers are against this kind of usage since you bloat the chain.

Please go ahead and take a look at the documentation http://atomicdac.org/?page_id=11033 Smiley

We are making use of the OP_RETURN segment of transaction scripts in order to store a very small amount of information (about 70 bytes right now, although we have raised the limit for testing to 200 bytes to allow us to expand in the future).

most Bitcoin transactions are around 250 bytes in size, depending on the amount of inputs in the transaction script. Therefore an ATOMIC transaction, in the worst possible scenario (large number of inputs for example) the script generated could end up being around 300 bytes in size.

If you take the 70 bytes, which as I said is more than we actually use) and multiply that by 80,000 which is a few thousand more Bitcoin transactions than there have been today, the total amount of data would be 5 megabytes per day.

http://www.matisse.net/bitcalc/?input_amount=5600000&input_units=bytes&notation=legacy

Having 80,000 transactions a day would be great, and anyone who can't handle 5 MB a day (once we get to that huge amount of transactions which has taken years for Bitcoin) is free to use the light version of the software Smiley please feel free to send me an email any time with your questions or criticisms!

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