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July 18, 2012, 11:38:36 AM
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Seems like a easy plan to steal as much BTC as possible then take off into the sunset ...

Looks like a nice arbitrage opportunity to me. Only 130BTC available at that price though, after that its 6.10GBP.

Pirate's escapade has cleared out a lot of liquidity on the order books of exchanges, which is most likely why this happened.

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July 18, 2012, 11:40:12 AM
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Did you refund that guy yet bulanula?
bulanula didn't do anything wrong, according to bulanula

How about I refund when Bitcoinica and other scammers refund too ?

Very funny indeed !

No tag either ...

You're not a scammer. I don't know why you have a scammer tag.

You're a douchebag and a thief though.

Just wait till I gets hacked by the invisible man too then we will all be laughing our socks off.

25 BTC still there it seems ...

What a coincidence, the scammer tag is still there too.  Smiley

So are they getting the tag or not ?

Seems like a scam to me.

Just look on Interscamgo and see the highly inflated bid prices there.

Buying BTC at 6.2 GBP ( 9.7 USD almost ) when Gox rate is 8.8 ?

Looks like they are trying to play on the greedy sellers and pull a "got hacked bro" excuse there too leaving with all the BTC they stole with these high bids as the GBP is non existent and will never make its way to seller's bank accounts I predict.

I would not trust those guys with a penny now.

Seems like a easy plan to steal as much BTC as possible then take off into the sunset ...

There's a lot to be suspicious about, but there's no proof. I wouldn't trust them either after how many times they've been compromised, but I wouldn't call them scammers either.

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July 18, 2012, 12:26:39 PM
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Seems like a easy plan to steal as much BTC as possible then take off into the sunset ...

Looks like a nice arbitrage opportunity to me. Only 130BTC available at that price though, after that its 6.10GBP.

Pirate's escapade has cleared out a lot of liquidity on the order books of exchanges, which is most likely why this happened.

Let us be realistic. Who is buying BTC now at 9.7 USD ? NOBODY !

Clearly a scam attempt to run with all the BTC and cash out.

Hope I am wrong but I really doubt it.

I would avoid depositing one Satoshi in there until the current issue is cleared up ... people should be warned hence the need for scammer tags.
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July 18, 2012, 12:31:03 PM
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Let us be realistic. Who is buying BTC now at 9.7 USD ?

Somebody who has an order on Intersango for 130BTC @ 6.20GBP. Once that order is filled, the price will(should?) drop down rapidly. Check out the order book yourself.

Clearly a scam attempt to run with all the BTC and cash out.

You mean they placed a fake order so that they could run off with 130BTC extra?

EDIT: looks like it was filled, and price has dropped to 6.10GBP ($9.50), and is continuing to drop.

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July 18, 2012, 12:38:36 PM
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Let us be realistic. Who is buying BTC now at 9.7 USD ?

Somebody who has an order on Intersango for 130BTC @ 6.20GBP. Once that order is filled, the price will(should?) drop down rapidly. Check out the order book yourself.

Looking at the order book right now.

It is pretty clear something fishy is going on here.

Why buy at 6.2 on Intersango when you can get them on Gox for 5.7 GBP Huh

My point is this : they are using these false bids to get people to deposit as much BTC now before they disappear tomorrow or in the few days.

Let me know if you have a GBP withdraw working to your bank account and you receive it but I highly doubt it with the recent Bitcoinica shitstorm.

Police can seize Intersango funds at any time or they can claim that this happens to deny access and rob you again and again.

Just watch in the next few days this will happen : "Intersango hacked" "Intersango frozen accounts due to Bitcoinica" etc.

Good luck if you have anything there now ... you will probably never see anything back now.

MtGox is not any better though Sad
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July 18, 2012, 12:42:36 PM
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Let us be realistic. Who is buying BTC now at 9.7 USD ?

Somebody who has an order on Intersango for 130BTC @ 6.20GBP. Once that order is filled, the price will(should?) drop down rapidly. Check out the order book yourself.

Clearly a scam attempt to run with all the BTC and cash out.

You mean they placed a fake order so that they could run off with 130BTC extra?

EDIT: looks like it was filled, and price has dropped to 6.10GBP ($9.50), and is continuing to drop.

More like 440 BTC above the current price of 5.7 GBP which is damn strange.

Earlier there was like 500 BTC being bought at insane prices like 6 GBP too ...

And claims that people are not receiving BTC withdrawals due to some "fauly BTC client issue" ( which is BS BTW - typical excuse ) in the Internsango thread.

See WBX exchange for similar scam ...

I don't even know what to do myself, TBH.
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July 18, 2012, 12:43:02 PM
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Why buy at 6.2 on Intersango when you can get them on Gox for 5.7 GBP Huh

Because it'd take me 3 weeks to transfer money to MT Gox, and 1 hour to do it to Intersango.

MT Gox don't take GBP either, so I'd have to exchange my GBP for USD, which my bank will charge me for with a higher than market exchange rate + a commision, probably bringing the cost close to 6.10GBP/BTC in the end.

I'd also have to use wire transfer to get money to MT Gox, which my bank charges me for and MT Gox's bank may charge again on their end.

Also, why buy at mtgox when its $0.20 cheaper at BTC-e?

Busy ATM.
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July 18, 2012, 12:43:30 PM
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A few days ago I sold some coins at $9 and transferred the USD to MtGox using AurumXchange and bought more than I sold at $7.2 each.

Nothing fishy. Just natural inbalance between markets.

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July 18, 2012, 12:47:08 PM
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Why buy at 6.2 on Intersango when you can get them on Gox for 5.7 GBP Huh

Because it'd take me 3 weeks to transfer money to MT Gox, and 1 hour to do it to Intersango.

MT Gox don't take GBP either, so I'd have to exchange my GBP for USD, which my bank will charge me for with a higher than market exchange rate + a commision, probably bringing the cost close to 6.10GBP/BTC in the end.

I'd also have to use wire transfer to get money to MT Gox, which my bank charges me for and MT Gox's bank may charge again on their end.

Also, why buy at mtgox when its $0.20 cheaper at BTC-e?

Can you do a GBP withdrawal from Gox to a UK bank account ? Does Gox have a UK bank account ?

Much fees there ? SEPA or domestic or SWIFT ?

Maybe that explains it.

I understand why BTC-e is different rate to Gox but this seems huge and why now after they got into legal troubles with Bitcoinica hot potato ...
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July 18, 2012, 02:27:40 PM
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Can you do a GBP withdrawal from Gox to a UK bank account ? Does Gox have a UK bank account ?

Nope, only Japan.

Much fees there ? SEPA or domestic or SWIFT ?

Only international wire transfer.

For me it costs 30euros to send the transfer + exchange fees from EUR to USD + whatever Mt Gox's bank charges them to receive it (probably another 30euro).
No idea what it is for a withdrawal, but I assume its equally as pricey.

It costs me nothing to deposit/withdraw from Intersango.

Maybe that explains it.

There was nothing to explain away in the beginning. Exchanges have different prices, thats how arbitrage bot owners make money. For some reason you thought that because Intersango had a higher rate than MT Gox, they were scamming. I always fail to understand your logic. Do you think I'm a scammer as well?

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September 09, 2012, 04:21:49 PM
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Short update from me.

Paying this in about 3 years now.

Raize, expect your money fully returned by 2015.
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September 10, 2012, 06:23:56 AM
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Short update from me.

Paying this in about 3 years now.

Raize, expect your money fully returned by 2015.

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September 20, 2012, 11:24:54 PM
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Short update from me.

Paying this in about 3 years now.

Raize, expect your money fully returned by 2015.

I will continue to send payments out as bitcoins come into my wallet.  Not sure what people are trying to accomplish by continuing to call me a scammer.  I have already received the scammer tag and most people on this forum would have quit paying by now.  My intentions is try and return everyone's bitcoins as fast as I can.
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September 20, 2012, 11:33:14 PM
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Short update from me.

Paying this in about 3 years now.

Raize, expect your money fully returned by 2015.

I will continue to send payments out as bitcoins come into my wallet.  Not sure what people are trying to accomplish by continuing to call me a scammer.  I have already received the scammer tag and most people on this forum would have quit paying by now.  My intentions is try and return everyone's bitcoins as fast as I can.

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January 03, 2015, 01:49:37 AM
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Jukan,
It's been a long 3 years or so since you refused to return this overpayment. Since you were only a teenager at the time, this oversight as to leaving an open debt is perhaps understandable. You'll note you mentioned the following before you stopped posting...

Short update from me.

Paying this in about 3 years now.

Raize, expect your money fully returned by 2015.

It is now 2015 and I am still awaiting a single payment. I believe I have been sufficiently-patient with you.

Coins were sent April 8 2012 anyway ... still not moved.

http://blockchain.info/address/1Bu1424Lf7y3Jz9p4ZyCo2mRSQDwdaXrHa

Despite your argument quoted above, about the coins having never moved, they did in fact move in August of 2012 when you sold them using what I assume was your new BTC-E account as the price passed the $10 mark.

I have not forgotten nor forgiven this debt.

I would be willing to entertain other options for repayment since I have no legal recourse whereby to settle the debt. You can contact me via PM or I can call you on your phone number ending in "2463" if interested. I know about and have followed your other accounts on this forum and elsewhere. Congrats on the new Virgin cable modem with a MAC ending in "1504".

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January 03, 2015, 02:02:44 AM
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Lol fuck this is old

But still hilarious

I miss scammer tags XXXXX

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January 03, 2015, 02:06:02 AM
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Yeah, I figured you'd get a kick out of this. I just wanted to confirm he was indeed lying. Tongue

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January 03, 2015, 02:09:15 AM
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Yeah, I figured you'd get a kick out of this. I just wanted to confirm he was indeed lying. Tongue

Haha I miss the good old days, following and quoting him

I respected him actually keeping the account and his scammer tag

Why didn't old scammer tag get him?

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January 03, 2015, 02:12:32 AM
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I would be willing to entertain other options for repayment since I have no legal recourse whereby to settle the debt. You can contact me via PM or I can call you on your phone number ending in "2463" if interested. I know about and have followed your other accounts on this forum and elsewhere. Congrats on the new Virgin cable modem with a MAC ending in "1504".

Thats very detailed info. I assume you're also aware of his identity as well as his place of residence, then?

Are you asking for a BTC refund? Considering the price jump, I would say its very unlikely unless you threaten him legally.






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January 03, 2015, 03:51:22 AM
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I remember bulanula blabbing on incoherently on this forum and also being a scammer. Grin Grin Grin

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