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September 19, 2014, 11:20:27 AM
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Should we not give people an opportunity to right the wrongs, they did in their past?

Was he promoting these services, knowing that they were scams or was he scammed too? 

I believe in forgiveness, if someone :

1. Announce publically that he did wrong, and takes ownership for it.
2. Try to make ammends, by doing something to counter the wrong.
3. Do these things without hidden agendas or to do more wrong.

He had his "strike 1" ...I suggest we give him "strike 2" ......

It's easy to ruin a reputation, it's much harder to build it back up. If his actions add value and it makes a positive difference, it will be better for all.

The governments and press jumps on every opportunity, to bash the bitcoin protocol, when it's not even the protocol that was hacked, but the services using the protocol.

This in a way, can be seen as consumer protection, something that are lacking in the "payment processor" service side of bitcoin, and that is good. 


Right or wrong, what was done in the past, etc. all do not really matter.  What matters is the present situation and the perceived reputation of Bitcoin.  Many of the early Foundation members did irresponsible things over a long period which has resulted in significant damage to Bitcoin's rep and those activities continue.  Some would say that Bitcoin would never be where it is today without those early people.  That is true to a certain extent but I am on the fence whether they are an overall good thing or not.  In any case you can't change history so you just have to look forward.  The early spokespeople of Bitcoin such as Ver, Shrem , Karpeles, etc. and the Foundation itself are all tainted.  Things have changed significantly over the past couple years but some of these early people are not changing along with it.  They think it is normal to run something Bitcoin Bounty Hunter program and set up some kind of screwball video and run threads here.   It is not, it is lunatic fringe activity that damages Bitcoin's reputation.

I complained to the Foundation about this 18 months ago and I told them I thought all the major players such as Gox, Coinlab, and Bitinstant would all be gone within 18 months.  It was obvious to anyone who looked at the situation that all this stuff like Mt. Gox was going to happen.  That fact goes right over the heads of people like Ver and Shrem and they just continue on like nothing happened.

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September 19, 2014, 11:40:13 AM
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Should we not give people an opportunity to right the wrongs, they did in their past?

Was he promoting these services, knowing that they were scams or was he scammed too? 

I believe in forgiveness, if someone :

1. Announce publically that he did wrong, and takes ownership for it.
2. Try to make ammends, by doing something to counter the wrong.
3. Do these things without hidden agendas or to do more wrong.

He had his "strike 1" ...I suggest we give him "strike 2" ......

It's easy to ruin a reputation, it's much harder to build it back up. If his actions add value and it makes a positive difference, it will be better for all.

The governments and press jumps on every opportunity, to bash the bitcoin protocol, when it's not even the protocol that was hacked, but the services using the protocol.

This in a way, can be seen as consumer protection, something that are lacking in the "payment processor" service side of bitcoin, and that is good. 


All of the listed bounties are for people that have the ability to right their wrongs but have not done so

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September 19, 2014, 12:00:14 PM
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All of the listed bounties are for people that have the ability to right their wrongs but have not done so

How would you know that since the people are not identified?  How do you know what really happened in these cases anyway?  Maybe posts on Bitcointalk from people only known by screen names?  This is the kind of things I am talking about, the people involved with this thing don't have the slightest idea about standards of proof and evidence.

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September 19, 2014, 11:15:34 PM
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All of the listed bounties are for people that have the ability to right their wrongs but have not done so

How would you know that since the people are not identified?  How do you know what really happened in these cases anyway?  Maybe posts on Bitcointalk from people only known by screen names?  This is the kind of things I am talking about, the people involved with this thing don't have the slightest idea about standards of proof and evidence.

The cases are pretty well documented, beside the material on Bitcointalk. Of course WE do not know what exactly happened for we do not know who the potential scammers were. However, as it is stated on the bounty-site: At the end of the day, it is a judge who has to make a decision, not us.
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September 20, 2014, 01:04:29 AM
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All of the listed bounties are for people that have the ability to right their wrongs but have not done so

How would you know that since the people are not identified?  How do you know what really happened in these cases anyway?  Maybe posts on Bitcointalk from people only known by screen names?  This is the kind of things I am talking about, the people involved with this thing don't have the slightest idea about standards of proof and evidence.

The cases are pretty well documented, beside the material on Bitcointalk. Of course WE do not know what exactly happened for we do not know who the potential scammers were. However, as it is stated on the bounty-site: At the end of the day, it is a judge who has to make a decision, not us.

Oh sure.  I like the Bitconia lawsuit.  They are suing for breach of contract but they say "Plaintiff currently does not have any copies of said agreements in their possession ..."  So not one the four plaintiffs even has a copy of the agreement that is the basis of the lawsuit.  Then you have a copy of some email that was obviously edited because it says so at the top.  There are no headers, time stamps, or anything.  Was this suit ever even filed?  What was the result?  There is no docket, order, or judgment posted.

If someone gets wrongly accused (or even if rightly accused but it is not proven) then there is the potential to sue Roger Ver if the site somehow causes someone a problem.  Just by posting the lawsuit on his site if someone is damaged by the posting and the matter is not proven.  Maybe Amir can get funding for his Dark Wallet that way? Haha.  Maybe no more squatting?  he can move in one of these places maybe:  http://www.peoplefinders.com/property-search/name/roger+ver   This is so ridiculous. 





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September 20, 2014, 02:13:53 AM
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i like the idea but might be hard at some point to decide whatto post there and what not to.

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September 20, 2014, 07:27:56 PM
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idea is good, for make identify , excelent.

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October 17, 2014, 03:27:38 AM
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So there's one simple conclusion: Let's help him!

He is part of the original Foundation and he promoted businesses where many, many people lost money at web sites where the Foundation's logo appeared.  The people involved with the original Foundation are tainted and the "brand" is known for scams and incompetence.  The bounties posted are all associated with these activities.  The current situation is attracting all the wrong people and I wouldn't support that.  If some reasonable people got involved I could see the benefit but this is just generating bad publicity for Bitcoin as it is.

That is why I got into bitcoin-trader.biz and lost 31,5 BTC (years of saving, hard earned money).

To make it clear I do not blame anyone, I blame myself but all new comers recognize Bitcoin Foundation as a organization they can trust.

That is why shit happen.

Anyway I love BitcoinBountyHunter.com idea ! Thanks a lot for that Roger Ver.

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November 04, 2014, 01:45:09 PM
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The proof is in the pudding ^Smile^
Let's see if this can be successfull and see if there will be any right's from all the wrong's ^HeH^

I doubt if this will work. ^Grin^
 

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November 04, 2014, 04:53:43 PM
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Cool idea, though I can see it being tough to get off the ground fully.  Mind you I hope it catches on!!!

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November 09, 2014, 03:59:04 AM
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This got me to thinking about that Assasination Marketplace. Anybody get off'd for some bitcoins yet?

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November 09, 2014, 04:30:02 AM
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This got me to thinking about that Assasination Marketplace. Anybody get off'd for some bitcoins yet?

There isn't a marketplace for it yet , but I'm sure someone has lol
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November 09, 2014, 04:48:17 AM
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This got me to thinking about that Assasination Marketplace. Anybody get off'd for some bitcoins yet?

There isn't a marketplace for it yet , but I'm sure someone has lol

Remember this: http://www.digitaltrends.com/web/bitcoin-funded-assassination-market-website/

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November 09, 2014, 04:58:32 AM
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This got me to thinking about that Assasination Marketplace. Anybody get off'd for some bitcoins yet?

There isn't a marketplace for it yet , but I'm sure someone has lol

Remember this: http://www.digitaltrends.com/web/bitcoin-funded-assassination-market-website/

Ah yes I do recall something like that. I wonder if its still around. OB might do this ?
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November 09, 2014, 07:28:17 AM
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It looks like Bitcoin Bounty Hunter is being DDoS'd.

Contact us if you need assistance mitigating the attack, we've dealt with DD4BC before (and will be contributing to his bounty).
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November 09, 2014, 03:36:15 PM
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This got me to thinking about that Assasination Marketplace. Anybody get off'd for some bitcoins yet?

There isn't a marketplace for it yet , but I'm sure someone has lol

Remember this: http://www.digitaltrends.com/web/bitcoin-funded-assassination-market-website/

Ah yes I do recall something like that. I wonder if its still around. OB might do this ?

Oh my god really guys ? I didn't know about that list  Shocked

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November 12, 2014, 12:23:33 PM
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wondering how and what would happen if you all find any thieves ,what would the consequenced would be jail, hanging ,tar n feathered or is this backed by u.s. marshalls etc  really what law enforcment is running this?? just curious
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November 19, 2014, 05:51:24 AM
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we most contact dog...

the bounty hunter he ith master of bounty i wold like to see a bitcoin hunter show....
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March 18, 2015, 01:42:53 AM
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Japanese Police Suspect 99% of Mt. Gox Bitcoins Missing Due to Fraud, Not Transaction Malleability Hack
https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/japanese-police-suspect-99-of-mt-gox-bitcoins-missing-due-to-fraud-not-transaction-malleability-hack/

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Japanese Police Suspect 99% of Mt. Gox Bitcoins Missing Due to Fraud, Not Transaction Malleability Hack
https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/japanese-police-suspect-99-of-mt-gox-bitcoins-missing-due-to-fraud-not-transaction-malleability-hack/

Agreed with that one:
How come Mark K. is not in jail for a very long time?

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