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September 19, 2014, 05:22:22 PM
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Surprised there isn't a thread on this yet:

http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/09/19/us-sec-bitcoin-fraud-idUSKBN0HE1Z820140919

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September 19, 2014, 06:10:07 PM
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Is it final?

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September 19, 2014, 06:18:08 PM
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Anybody have a link to the court ruling doc?

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September 19, 2014, 06:20:19 PM
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Mazzant held Shavers and his company liable to give up $38.6 million of illegal profits plus $1.8 million in interest. Each defendant was also fined $150,000.

I give! What other defendants?

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September 19, 2014, 06:48:47 PM
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There were two defendants in the case iirc: BTCST and Trendon Shavers.
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September 19, 2014, 07:01:39 PM
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What if the crash is pirate@40 selling off coins he still has to pay the judgement?

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September 19, 2014, 07:02:50 PM
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bad for us Embarrassed Embarrassed bad for the BTC community Embarrassed Embarrassed

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September 19, 2014, 07:54:47 PM
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One episode ends, with another beginning with the US Marshals closing down BFL today.

Proof?
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September 19, 2014, 08:03:58 PM
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Might as well been a billion dollars. He doesn't have a dime to his name.. So, its something that he will owe for the rest of his life..
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September 19, 2014, 08:36:10 PM
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$40 million is a pretty hefty amount for sure. Pirateat40 was before my time in Bitcoin, but I've read a lot about it. The crazy thing is he made it a Long time with payouts continuing for a Ponzi and even had a few trusted members on here vouching for him didn't he? All I can say is if he does have to pay for the rest of his life, I hope most of it goes to the people he ended up stealing from. Although sadly this money will probably just be swallowed up by the govt.  Roll Eyes

Also about the price crashing being him dumping his coins- my guess is if he had any money in BTC left, that'd he want to keep it in cryptos, if you know what I'm saying. That would allow him to earn and spend money without chunks of it being automatically taken for his debt.

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September 19, 2014, 08:39:09 PM
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One episode ends, with another beginning with the US Marshals closing down BFL today.

Proof?

I don't have any proof CoinHoarder but I have heard this news from 2 others today as well. If someone has info link it

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This might be of some Help:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=150803.msg8891220#msg8891220

Still haven't read through it yet.
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September 19, 2014, 08:45:11 PM
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I don't think the victims will see a penny
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September 19, 2014, 08:45:36 PM
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bad for us Embarrassed Embarrassed bad for the BTC community Embarrassed Embarrassed

I don't get it Huh.I thought you guys would be happy that somebody that has been scamming the bitcoin community is getting his just desserts.
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September 19, 2014, 08:49:57 PM
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I don't think the victims will see a penny

That depends, does the court appoint a receivership yet?If it has , chances are  the victims can get some of their monies back if they file claims.In the ASD ponzi case , all the victim that filed claim with the receivership got back 100% of their money back And the Zeek reward receivership is set up to give favourable returns to the victims( judging by the clawback infos).
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September 19, 2014, 08:51:59 PM
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Why was this person targeted? From the CoinDesk article I thought he was like selling to little old ladies or something, but it looks like he was doing it on here. Was a class action set up of BTC Talk members?

It's a LONG story.  The forum is fill with threads.  Search "Trendon Shavers" "pirate@40"  It will go down in history as one of the great bitcoin scams.
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September 19, 2014, 08:53:41 PM
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One episode ends, with another beginning with the US Marshals closing down BFL today.

Proof?

I don't have any proof CoinHoarder but I have heard this news from 2 others today as well. If someone has info link it

Edit:
This might be of some Help:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=150803.msg8891220#msg8891220

Still haven't read through it yet.

No worries. I ended up finding that thread. I hope it's true, BFL are crooks.
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September 19, 2014, 08:54:35 PM
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Good for him!
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September 19, 2014, 10:11:44 PM
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I don't think the victims will see a penny

That depends, does the court appoint a receivership yet?If it has , chances are  the victims can get some of their monies back if they file claims.In the ASD ponzi case , all the victim that filed claim with the receivership got back 100% of their money back And the Zeek reward receivership is set up to give favourable returns to the victims( judging by the clawback infos).
Well they will certainly not receive the fiat equivalent of what their bitcoin would be worth today if they had not invested (due to huge gains in the price of bitcoin since this happened). However they may received a good portion of their money back if pirate had kept even a small portion of the money in bitcoin 

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September 19, 2014, 10:42:18 PM
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And how is he going to pay that $40 million? From a secret treasure chest?

To me it seems that public authorities try to distinguish themselves as good guys doing consumer protection in Bitcoin's wild West, legitimizing further Bitcoin "regulation".

I think in hindsight it was an obvious ponzi and I don't know how it was possible that it grew to such proportions. I think it's a good lesson for everyone not to be blinded by greed.

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September 19, 2014, 11:11:27 PM
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not to be blinded by greed.

Famous last words.   The history books are filled with stories of men who have been brought down by greed.
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