SATIVACOIN = SCAM

[demoniality]

Heads up to all.

In short, mining began 30mins before the ann thread. The ann thread is surprise surprise self moderated and i have had maybe 40 posts deleted from it, others i'm sure just as many. Ask yourself, what innocent person cannot confidently answer a scam accusation and instead decides to censor everyone even with minor issues?

To cap it all off the comments are now locked because the OP got deluged with people trying to comment warning others.

Those with comments on the coin feel free to input.

Sativacoin dev feel free to try and defend yourself, i think in an unmoderated environment you are going to have a hard time.

[sativacoin]

To cap it all off the comments are now locked because the OP got deluged with people trying to comment warning others.

really the only one writing was you. i have reported you to the moderator

https://i.imgur.com/VZynBCU.png

[demoniality]

There you are, respond to the following accusations/questions that you repeatedly deleted before:

1. Mining started 30mins before announcement, why?
2. Why did you delete so many hundreds of posts asking the above question?
3. Why did you self moderate the thread if you have nothing to hide?
4. Why have you mad a new username; tell us your real name, or real bct account name?

Anybody that deletes the slightest criticism is giving off red flags. Someone that cannot rebuttal scam accusations and instead deletes them is really leaving no doubt.

[demoniality]

To cap it all off the comments are now locked because the OP got deluged with people trying to comment warning others.

really the only one writing was you. i have reported you to the moderator

Why do you think this somehow discredits me? Is it a tactic to divert attention away from yourself? I am not letting you get away with another scam, that is why there are people trying to work out your real identity right now.

Isn't this the tuquoque logical fallacy by trying to turn this on me instead of answering the accusations?

[FoldingCoin]

He cant remember, he got to high

[Penetrator10]

Hi what's the problem here you talk about 9 blocks of instamine wtf man look at ltcd they mined 2500 blocks in 25 min and look there is no problem at all , so which coin is scam ?

[demoniality]

"oh it was only a small instamine, not as bad as xxx, so that's ok". Come on now seriously, you must be that only guy that was allowed to post because you were defending him in that thread ie you are mining the coin to and have a vested interest in its survival.

Be honest with yourself, the instamine, regardless of size combined with a new account, zero roadmap and a self moderated thread in which every single solitary non complimentary post is deleted spells it out for you. What rational, thinking person cannot see this coin for what it is?

[BeCrypto]

To cap it all off the comments are now locked because the OP got deluged with people trying to comment warning others.

really the only one writing was you. i have reported you to the moderator

The only one? Sativacoin put the cone of silence on at least 3 other people including me. Probably more, that delete key was being spammed by sativacoin.

[demoniality]

only deleted 3 comments he said, all the whilst my deleted comment message in my watchlist is over two pages long.

edit: his thread is back open

edit: locked again.

Why wouldn't the dev just answer the accusations? I mean it's literally embarrassing, he can't even make up fake answers.

[Tuwie2]

The term SCAM is used so loosely now it basically means nothing.

How is it a scam exactly?  There was an original thread posted, then deleted and changed.  The wallet was downloaded by a few people from the first ANN thread and they started mining.

New thread was posted and everyone got on board, so 9 blocks instamined. Still not even 10K coins.

Deleted posts?  hundreds?  exxagerate much?   I would delete the crap you are writing also.  

The question has been answered, find something new to bitch about.

If you want to see something that was instamined go look at DRK or LTCD.

The fact that your only reason  for calling this a scam is the 9 blocks just shows your ignorance.

To top it off, you are claiming he is behind other "scams" as you put it, but offer no proof of any kind.

Have you tried chatting with him in irc?  

People really need to stop calling everything a scam so quickly, its like the boy who cried wolf.  


There is no IPO, no Premine, no real instamine.  So tell me where is the scam exactly?

Who is getting scammed, please explain exactly how it is a scam.  Fully explain it and show who is getting scammed.




p.s. - This isnt just to defend this dev, this is a post in general about all the useless crap that is posted here.  It's sad that these forums are the first thing so many people will find when they get into crypto.  The childish behavior around here is just appaling, its like a bunch of little kids with ADD fighting just to get attention and raise thier post count.

[sativacoin]

To cap it all off the comments are now locked because the OP got deluged with people trying to comment warning others.

really the only one writing was you. i have reported you to the moderator

https://i.imgur.com/VZynBCU.png

The only one? Sativacoin put the cone of silence on at least 3 other people including me. Probably more, that delete key was being spammed by sativacoin.

where do you see any similarity

Was that a question?
Well, maybe it is different because this is a scam coin.

With strong plans this coin could be a winner.

This coin has no plans. The dev is answering every ones questions except this one. He is just trying to steal the success of cannabiscoin.

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Oh yea. SCAM

this is why i deleted your post

[Scammy McScammerson]

u r all retards. go die. fuck.

 

[Tuwie2]

u r all retards. go die. fuck.

 

It's these kinds of posts that show the maturity level and mentality of these forums now.

[Penetrator10]

"oh it was only a small instamine, not as bad as xxx, so that's ok". Come on now seriously, you must be that only guy that was allowed to post because you were defending him in that thread ie you are mining the coin to and have a vested interest in its survival.

Be honest with yourself, the instamine, regardless of size combined with a new account, zero roadmap and a self moderated thread in which every single solitary non complimentary post is deleted spells it out for you. What rational, thinking person cannot see this coin for what it is?

I like when everything is fair , but man this is cypto i saw much much worst then that.Nine blocks is like fart of a bug nothing worth to mention.

[demoniality]

The term SCAM is used so loosely now it basically means nothing.

How is it a scam exactly?  There was an original thread posted, then deleted and changed.  The wallet was downloaded by a few people from the first ANN thread and they started mining.

New thread was posted and everyone got on board, so 9 blocks instamined. Still not even 10K coins.

Deleted posts?  hundreds?  exxagerate much?   I would delete the crap you are writing also.  

The question has been answered, find something new to bitch about.

If you want to see something that was instamined go look at DRK or LTCD.

The fact that your only reason  for calling this a scam is the 9 blocks just shows your ignorance.

To top it off, you are claiming he is behind other "scams" as you put it, but offer no proof of any kind.

Have you tried chatting with him in irc?  

People really need to stop calling everything a scam so quickly, its like the boy who cried wolf.  


There is no IPO, no Premine, no real instamine.  So tell me where is the scam exactly?

Who is getting scammed, please explain exactly how it is a scam.  Fully explain it and show who is getting scammed.




p.s. - This isnt just to defend this dev, this is a post in general about all the useless crap that is posted here.  It's sad that these forums are the first thing so many people will find when they get into crypto.  The childish behavior around here is just appaling, its like a bunch of little kids with ADD fighting just to get attention and raise thier post count.

A lot of half truths here and you have the audacity to call me ignorant:

1. Saying the 'thread was deleted' does not give an explanation as to why other than to deceive people
2. An instamine is an instamine so on one hand you admit it was done and yet on the other let it off because it is small?
3. I suggest he is behind other scams because he will not tell us his real bct name, his name or anything to distinguish him from a brand new account.
4. I have tried engaging him and he does not ever, like here for example (really you needed to ask?), answer the questions. He AVOIDS them, he DELETES them.
5. This is the third time i have made a thread regarding scamming, the other two times of undeniable nature.
6. Yes there is a premine, you just admitted it, a small one does not mean it did not happen.

You really need to apply some logic to your answers because all you have done is twist the truth for no other LOGICAL reason other than the fact you must be mining this coin also.

[demoniality]

"oh it was only a small instamine, not as bad as xxx, so that's ok". Come on now seriously, you must be that only guy that was allowed to post because you were defending him in that thread ie you are mining the coin to and have a vested interest in its survival.

Be honest with yourself, the instamine, regardless of size combined with a new account, zero roadmap and a self moderated thread in which every single solitary non complimentary post is deleted spells it out for you. What rational, thinking person cannot see this coin for what it is?

I like when everything is fair , but man this is cypto i saw much much worst then that.Nine blocks is like fart of a bug nothing worth to mention.

sure right, so why does he need to delete every post in the thread that is not positive? Why can he still not tell me who he is, why he deleted the original thread and why he sensored legitimiate, reasonable questions? The answer is obvious if you just use an ounce of common sense and have been here long enough to know how this goes.

[demoniality]

How about anyone else stops trying to defend the accusations based on assumptions and let the dev write it for himself. I don't think he can formulate any kind of coherent answer by himself. I'm waiting.

[ipominer]

Heads up to all.

In short, mining began 30mins before the ann thread. The ann thread is surprise surprise self moderated and i have had maybe 40 posts deleted from it, others i'm sure just as many. Ask yourself, what innocent person cannot confidently answer a scam accusation and instead decides to censor everyone even with minor issues?

To cap it all off the comments are now locked because the OP got deluged with people trying to comment warning others.

Those with comments on the coin feel free to input.

Sativacoin dev feel free to try and defend yourself, i think in an unmoderated environment you are going to have a hard time.

I added SativaCoin to my pool after launch, and had it compiled by block 93 with the first block found at block 110. Your posts on the thread came across as 100% FUD, and everyone in the IRC channel was talking about it and agreed that they should be deleted, so it is unsurprising that the dev deleted them. But regardless of any of that, I've reviewed the details of the blockchain (blocks and timestamps), versus the threads posting times.

The executive summary is that yes, 9 blocks were mined in a total of 35 seconds, 30 minutes prior to the current launch thread being posted. Does this actually matter to anyone in the grand scheme of a coin with 7200 blocks and no premine? It sure doesn't matter to me, at all.

There was a thread posted at https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=791197 on Sept 21, 11:19:26 AM EDT but the details have been removed. I didn't see that thread posted originally so I can't comment on its contents. The current thread was posted at https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=791266 on Sept 21, 12:40:08 PM EDT.

The genesis block was mined at 09:28:33 AM EDT on September 21. The first 9 blocks were mined from 12:09:57 PM EDT through 12:10:32 EDT -- so they were mined in less than 35 seconds and were most likely mined with a single GPU.

Block: 0, Date: Sun 21 Sep 2014 09:28:33 EDT
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[demoniality]

Am i expected to take the input from someone who is profiting from the coin being mined, to be unbias? I think not. My only interest is in the community and i know what i am seeing here. So again, let's let the dev defend the accusations for himself and perhaps introduce himself by his real name or on his real bct account?

I'm waiting..

[mpalenciac]

I'm tired of seeing posts like this, what's you EVIDENCE to claim this coin's a scam?.
It's not a scam until proven otherwise, I'm sick and tired and I know a lot of people are to keep watching these cunts cop-wannabee spreading FUD about every single coin that's launched and might have a future.