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September 25, 2014, 12:11:03 PM
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US troops on the ground in Iraq would be a disaster, you only need to look at the carnage from the previous invasion to see that. Americans aren't exactly flavor of the month amongst Iraqi society, certainly don't think there are many who would support a ground invasion.
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September 25, 2014, 02:09:00 PM
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The assyrians, romans, mongols actually proved that you can defeat violence with more violence indeed.

Sure, as long as you're fighting an enemy and not an ideology.


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September 27, 2014, 11:04:25 AM
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Why the fuck should we bleed for the country for a third time? If they aren't willing to settle their tribal BS and defeat an army that only started out with 10,000 why should we have to spearhead this alone?

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September 27, 2014, 01:43:33 PM
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Invent time travel and kill the prophet Mohammed in his infancy.But in all seriousness, I'm amazed that people think we can win a war against radical Islam. It's a belief; you cannot win a war against something intangible.

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September 27, 2014, 02:17:44 PM
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Invent time travel and kill the prophet Mohammed in his infancy.But in all seriousness, I'm amazed that people think we can win a war against radical Islam. It's a belief; you cannot win a war against something intangible.
What about getting 5 million troops trained up to fly jet packs and then send them to Mecca to the ramadan pilgrimage dressed up as Mohamed with the jetpacks disguised as backpacks, then finally when they get to the big shrine, get them to let loose with the jetpacks and fly over all the Meccan pilgrims with machine guns at full blaze, killing every last one of them.

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September 27, 2014, 02:25:11 PM
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Then like locust storms, repeat the same manoeuvre at all other none christian religious gatherings, even down at the ganges river where the religious bathing festival occurs, stuff like that. Should be able to shoot a few dozen million here and there ? It would lessen the none authorised religiousness going on in the world and send a message out, that you don't need either drones or jet power from the skies or troops on the ground, just flying Mohameds with machine guns.

A second wave of firepower could be in the form of 5 million really fit women in bathing suits toting rocket launchers, again with jetpacks, to go after ISIS directly, hiding in their odd small enclaves.

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September 27, 2014, 02:37:39 PM
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Then like locust storms, repeat the same manoeuvre at all other none christian religious gatherings, even down at the ganges river where the religious bathing festival occurs, stuff like that. Should be able to shoot a few dozen million here and there ? It would lessen the none authorised religiousness going on in the world and send a message out, that you don't need either drones or jet power from the skies or troops on the ground, just flying Mohameds with machine guns.

A second wave of firepower could be in the form of 5 million really fit women in bathing suits toting rocket launchers, again with jetpacks, to go after ISIS directly, hiding in their odd small enclaves.
If I get what you're saying...essentially, it might not be a bad thing to let a bad thing fail, then I certainly understand where you're coming from even if I personally don't like the idea of letting something fail.

You have a really good point at the end there.

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September 27, 2014, 04:50:01 PM
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Use other countries ground troops in coalition.
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September 28, 2014, 11:39:57 AM
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It's impossible just with air strikes.
Either USA and NATO should send their soldiers on the ground to figt with ISIS or prepare and armed local people in Iraq and Syria to fight against ISIS.

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September 28, 2014, 12:47:50 PM
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Just use 1.6 MT warheads. It will resolve all issues quickly enough. By the way, you can stop ebola outbreak in the same way.
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September 28, 2014, 01:58:29 PM
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Just use 1.6 MT warheads. It will resolve all issues quickly enough. By the way, you can stop ebola outbreak in the same way.

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Yea if you really would like to do it without ground troops; helicopters (easy to defend against with right weapons), shitton of bombings (civilian casualties) and at 1.6MT warhead (again shitload of civilian casualties). But atleast you would've got the ISIS troops..
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September 28, 2014, 02:14:14 PM
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Just use 1.6 MT warheads. It will resolve all issues quickly enough. By the way, you can stop ebola outbreak in the same way.

One 1.6 Megaton warhead will not eliminate ISIS. You need at least a hundreds of warheads. Because ISIS members are distributed in many villages across 2 vast countries. Some moderate muslims will be frightened but many moderate will also become extremist. Other problems will be the radiation and nuclear winter that will affect neighboring countries.
 


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September 28, 2014, 02:30:01 PM
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Give them a few decades to do their crap.

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September 28, 2014, 02:41:15 PM
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ISIS 'Flames Of War' HOAX: The Road To WW3 - DON'T BE FOOLED!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ULsW_pkPAe0

So why this has to be a hoax? why this has to be funded by the gov? anyone could make that video. How is it so unbeliable? why everything has to be a conspiracy? it's the idea of crazy towelheads that want to push their delusional beliefs all over the world with violence too unbeliable? is the gov conspiracy theory more beliable? give me a break.
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September 28, 2014, 02:58:48 PM
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Just use 1.6 MT warheads. It will resolve all issues quickly enough. By the way, you can stop ebola outbreak in the same way.

One 1.6 Megaton warhead will not eliminate ISIS. You need at least a hundreds of warheads.
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And don't forget about psychological effect. It's easy to brainwash shocked and demoralized people to make them believe that explosions were performed by ISIS, using weapons made by Saddam Hussein. See what happens in japan, half of young population believes that their country was nuked by the Soviet Union.

Other problems will be the radiation and nuclear winter that will affect neighboring countries.
1) There were thousands of nuclear explosions done in the 20 century, and some of these explosions were very "dirty". Radioactive contamination is not a big problem in case of high altitude explosions. 2) This region is mainly presented by deserts. There is not enough forests or other combustible material to generate amount of ashes which would be sufficient for notable climate changes.
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September 28, 2014, 04:51:22 PM
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Then like locust storms, repeat the same manoeuvre at all other none christian religious gatherings, even down at the ganges river where the religious bathing festival occurs, stuff like that. Should be able to shoot a few dozen million here and there ? It would lessen the none authorised religiousness going on in the world and send a message out, that you don't need either drones or jet power from the skies or troops on the ground, just flying Mohameds with machine guns.

A second wave of firepower could be in the form of 5 million really fit women in bathing suits toting rocket launchers, again with jetpacks, to go after ISIS directly, hiding in their odd small enclaves.
If I get what you're saying...essentially, it might not be a bad thing to let a bad thing fail, then I certainly understand where you're coming from even if I personally don't like the idea of letting something fail.

You have a really good point at the end there.
Basically, yes that's what I'm saying. As an example, slavery was a "bad thing", and it was doomed to fail at some point. Now a proper solution would have been to find a way to end it peacefully, and a worse way was to end it by civil war, but if you're dealing with a collapsed society with shifting alliances such as the middle east as a whole, sometimes the best answer is to watch from a distance.

I don't like the results any better than you do in the short/medium term. I'm just not sold a better answer exists in the real world.

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September 29, 2014, 02:32:56 AM
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Just use 1.6 MT warheads. It will resolve all issues quickly enough. By the way, you can stop ebola outbreak in the same way.
Millions of innocent people would be killed if this "strategy" was used. It would also not deal with either ISIS nor ebola.

ISIS is a terrorist organization that has "representatives" throughout several countries, including the US. They are not concentrated enough for this to potentially work (and ignoring the fact that civilians would be around where the bomb would go off)
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September 29, 2014, 09:50:53 AM
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A Syrian Perspective information source:
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September 29, 2014, 05:03:43 PM
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ISIS 'Flames Of War' HOAX: The Road To WW3 - DON'T BE FOOLED!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ULsW_pkPAe0

So why this has to be a hoax? why this has to be funded by the gov? anyone could make that video. How is it so unbeliable? why everything has to be a conspiracy? it's the idea of crazy towelheads that want to push their delusional beliefs all over the world with violence too unbeliable? is the gov conspiracy theory more beliable? give me a break.
Were they as "crazy" as you claim, they would not be able to organize as it is said they have, for they would retreat from even each other into their own selves for that unrighteousness they hold universal among all others.

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September 29, 2014, 06:38:32 PM
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USA will not use ground troops again on this , they learn from before.
its hard to war on city that ISIS fighter can hide behind civillian.
war will be the same like before , IED and suicide bomber.

let drones attack them all and after they weak , support local soldier / Iraq and Syria soldiers to finish them .

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