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October 01, 2014, 11:47:50 AM
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is there is anyway to send BTC without paying any fees ? I use blockchain.info and there is some small fees  Roll Eyes Offline wallets use fees also ?

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October 01, 2014, 01:49:09 PM
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is there is anyway to send BTC without paying any fees ? I use blockchain.info and there is some small fees 

It is generally a bad idea to try to send bitcoins without including the customary fee.  Many peers will refuse to relay your transaction if it doesn't have an adequate fee, and many miners (and mining pools) will refuse to confirm the transaction without a fee.  It is possible that you could end up waiting hours, or even days, for the the transaction to confirm.  It is even possible that the transaction will never confirm.

If, knowing and understanding the risks, you still want to send your transaction without fees, I think it might be possible using the "custom" transaction feature of the blockchain.info wallet.

Offline wallets use fees also ?

Yes, most offline wallets also include the customary fee in the transactions that you create.  They do this so that the transaction will confirm in a timely manner.  Some offline wallets have advanced features that allow you to create transactions without the fee if you really want to.

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October 01, 2014, 02:10:44 PM
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if coins have enough priority and amount > 0.01 btc then  you can send money without fees. Actually it's a cool idea. 90% of my transaction I sent without fee. The average confirmation time ~ 50 minutes.

More info: https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Transaction_fees
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October 01, 2014, 03:39:26 PM
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This was pretty useful , thank you so much guys  Shocked and sorry for wasting ur time

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October 01, 2014, 05:47:11 PM
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fsb4000, that's pretty mean. Electrum wallet automatically adds 0.0002 BTC to a transaction. You can change it (to zero if you want) but who would want to deny miners of 8 cents for their hardware investment?

If people didn't pay the tiny fee en masse then it could have a negative effect on the system.

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October 01, 2014, 06:20:54 PM
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theres a high chance those 8 cents will go to a pool you hate . for me its cex .io . id hate it if i knew my money went there. thats why i prefer not to pay fees and ofcourse because of the obvious reason that nothing beats free.
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October 01, 2014, 07:33:00 PM
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if coins have enough priority and amount > 0.01 btc then  you can send money without fees. Actually it's a cool idea. 90% of my transaction I sent without fee. The average confirmation time ~ 50 minutes.

More info: https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Transaction_fees

Ditto. Priority and size matter.  Most wallets will calculate what fees, if any, are needed. Usually it is best to rely on those calculations. 

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October 02, 2014, 02:38:30 AM
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fsb4000, that's pretty mean. Electrum wallet automatically adds 0.0002 BTC to a transaction. You can change it (to zero if you want) but who would want to deny miners of 8 cents for their hardware investment?

If people didn't pay the tiny fee en masse then it could have a negative effect on the system.


Miners receive 25 btc block reward. So I do not think that I have to pay the fee if my transaction satisfies the conditions of free transaction.
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October 02, 2014, 04:02:32 AM
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see:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=22434.0

too bad you'll have to compile it yourself. ask yourself: is going through all that trouble worth the 10 cents you're saving?

It is pitch black. You are likely to be eaten by a grue.

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October 02, 2014, 06:18:09 AM
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if coins have enough priority and amount > 0.01 btc then  you can send money without fees. Actually it's a cool idea. 90% of my transaction I sent without fee. The average confirmation time ~ 50 minutes.

More info: https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Transaction_fees

Really? I didn't knew that. Now I feel like an idiot adding 40k satoshi fee to >0.1 transactions to make them go fast.

 

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October 02, 2014, 07:10:53 AM
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is there is anyway to send BTC without paying any fees ? I use blockchain.info and there is some small fees  Roll Eyes Offline wallets use fees also ?
You can modify the fees in blockchain.info by choosing custom transaction, Fees make more miners interested in including your transaction in blocks so the lower the fees the longer it take to get confirmation "imo can remain as unconfirmed transactions for days if no fees or small fees are paid".

but apparently there are more "rules":

if coins have enough priority and amount > 0.01 btc then  you can send money without fees. Actually it's a cool idea. 90% of my transaction I sent without fee. The average confirmation time ~ 50 minutes.

More info: https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Transaction_fees

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October 02, 2014, 08:01:53 AM
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see:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=22434.0

too bad you'll have to compile it yourself. ask yourself: is going through all that trouble worth the 10 cents you're saving?

Compile it my self ? I guess it dosen't worth it then haha , only programming language I know is C# & ASP.NET and Bitcoin core looks like C++ 
just going to pay the fees Cheesy

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October 09, 2014, 09:11:33 AM
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 please advice me  how ? i need some information about this subject .

what is the minimum and maximum i can send are there any other fees attach ?
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October 09, 2014, 03:47:59 PM
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please advice me  how ? i need some information about this subject .

what is the minimum and maximum i can send are there any other fees attach ?

You can sign a zero fee transaction and push it through Blockchain API or any other service. Zero fee transaction will get confirmations if the output is >0.05 and the bytes are lower than 1000(If I am right). And what do you mean by minimum and maximum?

P.S. you can use Brainwallet to push tx if you don't know how to use Blockchain API.

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October 09, 2014, 04:43:02 PM
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see:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=22434.0

too bad you'll have to compile it yourself. ask yourself: is going through all that trouble worth the 10 cents you're saving?

Compile it my self ? I guess it dosen't worth it then haha , only programming language I know is C# & ASP.NET and Bitcoin core looks like C++ 
just going to pay the fees Cheesy

It's not that hard, I don't know much about programming and managed to get it done.

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