klamm.us

[Raoul Duke]

Wow, i was just told by Paypal - after asking - that although there was a flood of chargebacks they wont charge back anything related to Bitcoins or Virtual Goods at all...

Wonder if that telephone guy is right or not.. chargeback still pending

I would ask that on a written form and signed by Paypal managers... And then proceed to sell Bitcoins without fearing chargebacks lol

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[Nachtwind]

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Wir haben unsere Untersuchung abgeschlossen
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Guten Tag, xxxxxxxx!

Es geht um die folgende Transaktion:

Bearbeitungsnummer:  PP-001-777-658-728
Transaktionsdatum:  10. Mai 2012
Transaktionsbetrag:  -$11,99 USD
E-Mail-Adresse des Verkäufers:  webepayee@live.com
Name des Verkäufers:  Xiao Chen

Wir können diese Beschwerde leider nicht für Sie untersuchen, da wir
Beschwerden bei digitaler oder virtueller Ware sowie für Artikel, die gegen
unsere Nutzungsrichtlinie verstoßen, nicht bearbeiten.

Dennoch speichern wir natürlich diese Informationen. Sollten wir vermehrt
ähnliche Beschwerden über Ihren Verkäufer erhalten, leiten wir
entsprechende Schritte ein. Denn: Wir wollen Sie als Käufer schützen - auch
beim Kauf von immaterieller Ware.

Bitte antworten Sie nicht auf diese E-Mail. Bei weiteren Fragen erreichen
Sie uns über den Link "Kontakt" auf jeder PayPal-Seite.


Viele Grüße
xxxxx
PayPal-Kundenservice

Translated shortly:

Hi Mr Nachtwind,
We wont investigate this case since you bought virtual good. In case the of further chargebacks against the seller we reserve the right to investigate the case again.




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So here is the written confirmation that chargebacks in case of Bitcoins dont apply. Yay.. There go my nice $12 :0(

[the joint]

Matt, I got further than you did when it came to the question of why they need to sell fast. Apparently they need to sell fast at any price in order to pay their employee's salaries. They got angry when I pointed out that the only way this makes sense is if the company is completely broke (they can't sell their mining rigs either, for reasons which they refused to explain, so we'll just have to draw our own conclusions on that point). They said I can't judge their business methods because "every one can not judge who is wrong or not,cuz everyone nog god". Then I told them I was an atheist and they apparently didn't believe me:

21:17:10
i think you are not,cuz you can not belive all the things,just thinking about one way is right
21:17:41
you don't know running and make dreams come true may have more ways to through it

The conversation ended shortly thereafter. I guess you have to be a beliver to buy bitcoins from them.



Except klamm, obviously.

LMFAO

Funniest fucking post I've ever seen.

[malevolent]

The asshole is running opencart 1521 and (probably) PHP 5.2.17, I have to study now, so if you have time check out this:

http://www.waraxe.us/advisory-84.html

managed to get his pwd reset only so far

[rjk]

These scammers are still up and running? Has anyone actually gotten anything from them, bitcoins or otherwise?

[Matthew N. Wright]

These scammers are still up and running? Has anyone actually gotten anything from them, bitcoins or otherwise?

I haven't seen anything.

[John (John K.)]

And they're back just now. Got deleted fast by the mods, thank goodness. We need them to be perma-banned, IP or otherwise.

[rjk]

We need them to be perma-banned, IP or otherwise.

I'm pretty sure they are all over that. Heard of a proxy before?

[John (John K.)]

We need them to be perma-banned, IP or otherwise.

I'm pretty sure they are all over that. Heard of a proxy before?

And here I thought that bitcointalk already bans most TOR out nodes. 

[rjk]

We need them to be perma-banned, IP or otherwise.

I'm pretty sure they are all over that. Heard of a proxy before?

And here I thought that bitcointalk already bans most TOR out nodes. 

Tor isn't the only proxy... also (apparently) Tor is only disallowed for signups, not regular access.

[John (John K.)]

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=82363.msg907638#msg907638

And he's back. They're like roaches apparently. 

We need them to be perma-banned, IP or otherwise.

I'm pretty sure they are all over that. Heard of a proxy before?

And here I thought that bitcointalk already bans most TOR out nodes. 

Tor isn't the only proxy... also (apparently) Tor is only disallowed for signups, not regular access.

Guess we need a more stringent system now then. 

[tysat]

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=82363.msg907638#msg907638

And he's back. They're like roaches apparently. 

We need them to be perma-banned, IP or otherwise.

I'm pretty sure they are all over that. Heard of a proxy before?

And here I thought that bitcointalk already bans most TOR out nodes. 

Tor isn't the only proxy... also (apparently) Tor is only disallowed for signups, not regular access.

Guess we need a more stringent system now then. 

I nuked that account earlier.  As long as it's reported, it shouldn't take too long for a mod to see it and kill the spam account.

[theymos]

They have a wide selection of IPs, though they're not using open proxies. IPs seen so far:
50.117.117.23
70.154.161.78
67.60.233.57
1.234.7.147
70.89.136.52
1.234.45.44
211.175.36.125
218.234.17.238
50.117.117.25
50.117.117.45
183.96.230.24
126.15.1.93
116.213.132.18
1.249.123.196
123.153.69.201
175.210.203.179
112.216.145.91
221.145.226.7
59.58.148.9
125.141.224.71
112.217.232.118
59.60.127.241
101.66.61.191
118.32.191.162
118.46.219.200
180.67.207.50
59.58.151.34
117.52.82.63
218.38.13.37

[John (John K.)]

And he's back:https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=58397

[tysat]

And he's back:https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=58397

Posting that here isn't too likely to do anything.  All you need to do is report the post and the guy should be banned and have his posts deleted quick enough.

[Bitcoin Oz]

for every dumb-ass scammed and begs for donations i bet there are 20 who hold their tong.

Is tong slang for penis?

no, its thai for penis

Zhou Tong