An eye opening about Climate change that need to be shared with you. It's FUN

[boumalo]

Watched this video and it blew my mind, it is a discussion between Stefan Molyneux that some of you already know and the previous chief of Greenpeace Patrick Moore, it is full with important facts that cannot be denied and it showed that the future cannot be predicted by a computer model because there are too many variables

You need some willpower to start the video and watch 5minutes (come on you can do it you lazy f$$) but then odds are you will be hooked and you will probably learn more about the Climate change that you already know; people talk about things they don't know nothing about, it is scary

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pbgcyW-MqtY&list=UUC3L8QaxqEGUiBC252GHy3w

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[pedrog]

Stefan Molyneux, enough said, not wasting my time with this...

[CripLib]

It's so confusing all the different opinions on climate change. For me it seems that it's a natural process for the climate our planet. It's a very complicated system, with a huge amount of factors to influenciate. In reality man cannot understand all these factors. And when man cannot understand things they tend to create myths.

[Wilikon]

Watched this video and it blew my mind, it is a discussion between Stefan Molyneux that some of you already know and the previous chief of Greenpeace Patrick Moore, it is full with important facts that cannot be denied and it showed that the future cannot be predicted by a computer model because there are too many variables

You need some willpower to start the video and watch 5minutes then odds are you will be hooked and you will probably learn more about the Climate change that you already know; people talk about things they don't know nothing about, it is scary

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pbgcyW-MqtY&list=UUC3L8QaxqEGUiBC252GHy3w

Thank you for the link. will add it to my thread.

[boumalo]

Stefan Molyneux, enough said, not wasting my time with this...

It's not the usual Molyneux video, it's the ex-Greenpeace scientist talking for 97% of the time

It's so confusing all the different opinions on climate change. For me it seems that it's a natural process for the climate our planet. It's a very complicated system, with a huge amount of factors to influenciate. In reality man cannot understand all these factors. And when man cannot understand things they tend to create myths.

The guy in the video tells a few key points including the fact that it is a natural change, it's hard to predict the future climate since there are so variables; we can't predict with a computer which horse will win but it is harder to predict the future climate; CO2 is good for plants thus good for life and the current level is not that high, 2 more degrees won't kill us since we are a tropical specie who lived most its life near the Equator between the two Tropics

[samaricanin]

For me it seems that it's a natural process for the climate our planet

It is.Mainstream media don't want tell this

[boumalo]

For me it seems that it's a natural process for the climate our planet

It is.Mainstream media don't want tell this

Mainstream media says that the temperature will go up because of human activity and that it is bad but can they really tell why it would be bad? They have no idea what will be affect (if anything) by more CO2 in the atmosphere

[twister]

For me it seems that it's a natural process for the climate our planet

It is.Mainstream media don't want tell this

Mainstream media says that the temperature will go up because of human activity and that it is bad but can they really tell why it would be bad? They have no idea what will be affect (if anything) by more CO2 in the atmosphere

When the temperatures increase the polar ice starts to melt and the sea level starts to rise, this is the real affect of global warming, if you see a show called "Vice" it shows how water levels are rising increasingly and the world around is sinking.

[Elwar]

it is bad but can they really tell why it would be bad?

More sunburns.

[boumalo]

For me it seems that it's a natural process for the climate our planet

It is.Mainstream media don't want tell this

Mainstream media says that the temperature will go up because of human activity and that it is bad but can they really tell why it would be bad? They have no idea what will be affect (if anything) by more CO2 in the atmosphere

When the temperatures increase the polar ice starts to melt and the sea level starts to rise, this is the real affect of global warming, if you see a show called "Vice" it shows how water levels are rising increasingly and the world around is sinking.

We are still in the Ice Age so a warming up of the temperatures is natural, probably nothing we can do about it if it's due to the Sun like the Russian scientist community think and can you tell me how many cm the seal level would rise if the global temperature is raised by 2degrees? And how many people would be affected?? Raising temperatures would be good for countries like Canada who will be able to use the northern of their country and for us humans that are made for tropical temperatures

[Spendulus]

For me it seems that it's a natural process for the climate our planet

It is.Mainstream media don't want tell this

Mainstream media says that the temperature will go up because of human activity and that it is bad but can they really tell why it would be bad? They have no idea what will be affect (if anything) by more CO2 in the atmosphere

When the temperatures increase the polar ice starts to melt and the sea level starts to rise, this is the real affect of global warming, if you see a show called "Vice" it shows how water levels are rising increasingly and the world around is sinking.

We are still in the Ice Age so a warming up of the temperatures is natural, probably nothing we can do about it if it's due to the Sun like the Russian scientist community think and can you tell me how many cm the seal level would rise if the global temperature is raised by 2degrees? And how many people would be affected?? Raising temperatures would be good for countries like Canada who will be able to use the northern of their country and for us humans that are made for tropical temperatures

No, you cannot predict the rise in sea level resulting from a 2 degree rise.  The reason is that to attempt it you must presume all other factors are unchanged, such as the ocean currents.   But they would not be the same. 

And there really is not any such thing as a measurable "global temperature", that's a myth and an unscientific jury rigged construction.  Scientific would be to look at increases in latent heat of the ocean mass.

[Spendulus]

it is bad but can they really tell why it would be bad?

More sunburns.

Increased numbers of girls with bikinis must be stopped.

[tinof]

Nothing can be changed unless people stop breeding like rabbits and only consume what they need.

[boumalo]

Nothing can be changed unless people stop breeding like rabbits and only consume what they need.

When a population gets richer (and consume more) they have less kids, look at Birmania
What consumption do we need? Schools, roads, hospitals, food, when you think about it there is a lot we need

The video says something interesting : maybe producing more CO2 will be good for the plants because they need CO2 to develop

For me it seems that it's a natural process for the climate our planet

It is.Mainstream media don't want tell this

Mainstream media says that the temperature will go up because of human activity and that it is bad but can they really tell why it would be bad? They have no idea what will be affect (if anything) by more CO2 in the atmosphere

When the temperatures increase the polar ice starts to melt and the sea level starts to rise, this is the real affect of global warming, if you see a show called "Vice" it shows how water levels are rising increasingly and the world around is sinking.

We are still in the Ice Age so a warming up of the temperatures is natural, probably nothing we can do about it if it's due to the Sun like the Russian scientist community think and can you tell me how many cm the seal level would rise if the global temperature is raised by 2degrees? And how many people would be affected?? Raising temperatures would be good for countries like Canada who will be able to use the northern of their country and for us humans that are made for tropical temperatures

No, you cannot predict the rise in sea level resulting from a 2 degree rise.  The reason is that to attempt it you must presume all other factors are unchanged, such as the ocean currents.   But they would not be the same. 

And there really is not any such thing as a measurable "global temperature", that's a myth and an unscientific jury rigged construction.  Scientific would be to look at increases in latent heat of the ocean mass.

What you say makes a lot of sense, not like the idea that scientists  know how much the "global temperature" will rise, when, why and what will be the consequences. How would they know that? All the models that have been made have proven wrong, they make new ones every other year that invariably turn out to be wrong; you can't predict most things that have too many variables

[pedrog]

For me it seems that it's a natural process for the climate our planet

It is.Mainstream media don't want tell this

Mainstream media says that the temperature will go up because of human activity and that it is bad but can they really tell why it would be bad? They have no idea what will be affect (if anything) by more CO2 in the atmosphere

You get your science news from mainstream media?

[boumalo]

For me it seems that it's a natural process for the climate our planet

It is.Mainstream media don't want tell this

Mainstream media says that the temperature will go up because of human activity and that it is bad but can they really tell why it would be bad? They have no idea what will be affect (if anything) by more CO2 in the atmosphere

You get your science news from mainstream media?

Do you agree that more CO2 will be beneficial for plants and a twice or three times more CO2 concentration that what we have will not threaten humanity at all since we have seen way higher levels of CO2 in the past, just a few hundreds thousands year ago

[Schleicher]

a twice or three times more CO2 concentration that what we have will not threaten humanity at all since we have seen way higher levels of CO2 in the past, just a few hundreds thousands year ago

Um, no. At least not in the last 800000 years.

[boumalo]

a twice or three times more CO2 concentration that what we have will not threaten humanity at all since we have seen way higher levels of CO2 in the past, just a few hundreds thousands year ago

Um, no. At least not in the last 800000 years.

1/It goes up and down even when there is no human activity, all the models and everything that has been said about rising CO2 levels caused by human activity and the predictions of consequences have been proven wrong

2/If it has go up tremendously last 200years, nothing bad happened and we are safe

3/CO2 is not bad, it is great for plants

4/We have seen CO2 levels that big
Real CO2 levels : http://www.biomind.de/realCO2/

Humans are a tropical specie that can sustain much higher temperatures

[boumalo]

1/It goes up and down even when there is no human activity, all the models and everything that has been said about rising CO2 levels caused by human activity and the predictions of consequences have been proven wrong

2/If it has go up tremendously last 200years, nothing bad happened and we are safe

3/CO2 is not bad, it is great for plants

4/We have seen CO2 levels that big
Real CO2 levels : http://www.biomind.de/realCO2/

Humans are a tropical specie that can sustain much higher temperatures

[Snail2]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geologic_temperature_record

As you can see in the graphs above and in the wiki article this man-made global warming stuff seems to be BS. During the most thriving periods of life the global average temperature and the CO2 levels were much higher than today. We are at the end of a cold period, and now Earth warming up. Period.