BikiniDice (OP)
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October 25, 2014, 08:52:18 AM |
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Back up your 1000 shares with real BTC maybe ?
Dooglus had mentioned this earlier too, with the fact that you earn majority of the profit without staking anything.
Ok will work on it
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SirLolicon
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October 25, 2014, 10:25:22 AM |
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Honestly at first look it looks okay but once you think about it there's nothing really special about BikiniDice...
Hopefully a unique feature will be placed
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BikiniDice (OP)
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October 25, 2014, 10:41:19 AM |
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Honestly at first look it looks okay
Thanks Hopefully a unique feature will be placed
We will add new features like this
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dooglus
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October 25, 2014, 06:34:26 PM |
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I wouldn't consider investing in your site. I already posted (didn't I?) about how your investment system is scammy and unfair.
Aren't you the creator of the investment system? Yes, but my system was fair and yours isn't. I already wrote about why yours isn't fair, here: Bikinidice is a simple dice site with only 1% house edge. The 1% is that investors will earn long-term.
The investors also ensure to players a greater maximum payout
I think you did the math wrong. Consider this example: I buy 200 shares, at 0.1 BTC each, for 20 BTC total. Suppose nobody else buys any, and that you don't have much bankroll of your own (which is probably true, based on the "Current BTC max profit: 0.01220054"). So I'm now providing around 99% of the bankroll. Now if someone loses 1 BTC on the site, how much do I get? I only have 10% of the shares, so I only get 10% of the site's profit. That's hugely unfair, and equates to an invisible 90% commission fee. The site effectively owns 90% of the shares without having the coins to back them up. We've seen this kind of investment scam from another site recently, but they already faded from my memory.
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wayshegoes
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October 25, 2014, 06:46:50 PM |
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They never claimed the site was provably fair dooglus, just "Probalty fair". Not sure what that means The broken english and rudeness to people in the thread is enough red flags for me not to ever deposit a satoshi.
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BikiniDice (OP)
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October 25, 2014, 07:53:40 PM |
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I wouldn't consider investing in your site. I already posted (didn't I?) about how your investment system is scammy and unfair.
We think we have the right to choose our investment system without you accuse us of scam. Our investment system is a share system. So, please stop flame here and continue post on your thread (proBaBly primedice...)
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dooglus
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October 25, 2014, 09:13:09 PM |
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I wouldn't consider investing in your site. I already posted (didn't I?) about how your investment system is scammy and unfair.
We think we have the right to choose our investment system without you accuse us of scam. Our investment system is a share system. So, please stop flame here and continue post on your thread (proBaBly primedice...) Wait a minute. You PM'ed me asking why I don't invest. I replied here, quoting my pre-existing reasoning for why I think your current investment system is a really bad deal for investors. And you call that flaming? If you don't like me saying what I think then make a self-moderated thread and censor me. That's how scammy people keep valid criticism out of their threads, and it could work for you too. Until then I'll continue to post wherever I like. Or you could, you know, address my criticism and tell me how it's fair that investors bear almost all the risk while you reap almost all the profit. That ought to be good.
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October 25, 2014, 10:57:12 PM |
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Or you could, you know, address my criticism and tell me how it's fair that investors bear almost all the risk while you reap almost all the profit. That ought to be good.
I think it's nothing personal, just business. 90% commission is a really good deal. For them. All because of some bikinis that won't come off. They could make 99% commission if the clothes disappear completely I bet.
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Marione90
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October 25, 2014, 11:55:14 PM |
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I ran the biggest Bitcoin dice site
So, you're an PrimeDice developer? Good to know... No, PrimeDice has had around 500k BTC wagered. My site had over 5 million BTC wagered. 10 times more than PrimeDice. But if we use same seed for every roll we've got a BIG problem. If a player check the roll sequence and try to find next number with brute forcehe win all ^^.
Well that's why you use a proper cryptographic hash and not PHP's rand() function - so they can't brute force it. Check what your competition is doing. PrimeDice and PRC both use the same seed pair over and over without any problems. but with all the money you made behind person, you're here to talk about the more or less? in your website you gave money to people? your site have won all? your site have deposited candy?
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dooglus
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October 26, 2014, 01:40:21 AM |
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Check what your competition is doing. PrimeDice and PRC both use the same seed pair over and over without any problems.
but with all the money you made behind person, you're here to talk about the more or less? in your website you gave money to people? your site have won all? your site have deposited candy? I'm sorry, but you are very hard to understand. I'm trying to tell Mr. Bikini that his method of provable fairness sucks, because it does. I gave free coins to the first 250 or so users. The site won about 19000 BTC more than it lost. We never accepted candy, only BTC. I hope that answers your questions but I'm not sure I got your point.
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arteis406
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October 26, 2014, 03:40:25 AM |
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wow, good gambling dice (y)
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October 26, 2014, 05:06:13 AM |
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Investments....figures. Gambling sites with user investments have all turned to shit afterwards guys.
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TonyT
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October 26, 2014, 05:59:41 AM |
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I'm trying to tell Mr. Bikini that his method of provable fairness sucks, because it does. I gave free coins to the first 250 or so users. The site won about 19000 BTC more than it lost. We never accepted candy, only BTC.
Good job with your former site dooglus, I read the official thread the other day. I did not realize you were so honest, actually shutting the site and returning the money after Canada changed its laws making the site not viable (most people would have tried to carry on; arguably you could not since you were not anonymous to begin with, but a lot of lesser people would have been tempted to try). I was figuring back of the envelope that you must have made on average a couple of hundred thousand dollars, if not a million dollars, from that site (I don't want to know), as did the 30 or so investors, to various degrees, a little less. Good job but it was a 'one-time' deal meaning it's almost impossible this will happen again. As I wrote in your official site thread, if you were to now set up another gaming site that's not nominally legal I would think twice about investing a lot since what you would be doing something illegal, which is out of character for you and shows you have crossed over to the dark side. This guy, Mr. Bikini of Bikinidice, comes across as your typical Slavic wise guy, if not Wise Guy, and in the real world this works well to intimidate but in cyberspace it does not. Like another poster said he needs a front man, smooth, well versed in English, to carry on correspondence. But I'm guessing BikiniDice is a small knit, close team of friends and relatives and probably Mr. Bikini speaks and writes the best English, so he was elected to be the PR person. And as the Mr. Peanut avatar poster says, the site needs to differentiate itself by going "all in" with porn (no mere bikini girls) but that would require the BikiniDice team to reach out to others in Russia, that are strangers, and this strategy is rife with potential risk, so that's why they are content with using Google Images of semi-naked girls and making less money. At best Bikinidice is a just another Bitcoin dice site, no different from the competition. At worse it is a small-time scam.
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jambola2
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October 26, 2014, 09:03:40 AM |
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At best Bikinidice is a just another Bitcoin dice site, no different from the competition. At worse it is a small-time scam.
At best Bikinidice is a Bitcoin dice site run by an incompetent owner who knows nothing better than a PHP random function. At worst it is a scam that makes Ponzis seem well planned. Whichever way, the owner has only put any effort on the "Bikini" of BikiniDice.
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BikiniDice (OP)
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October 26, 2014, 09:56:12 AM |
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Probably we are the only one honest gambling site in bitcoin.
And surely, the only one team who work instead of taking the script copied
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October 26, 2014, 08:05:25 PM Last edit: October 26, 2014, 08:15:37 PM by showrov1993 |
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thanks bikinidice.i am really happy to playing here cos i already WIN'S lot's free shatoshi. and i 100% recommended that this is truely fair games.go AHED. and one request to bikinidice that please add affiliate programs so that we can bring our friends here also we can promote your site more way.please add it. see my proof.i am going to deposit .50 BTC after receive my 1st payment.hopw will earn good money from here.and really growing anf fair than JD PD BD and many more.thanks
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Minnlo
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October 26, 2014, 08:09:38 PM |
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Probably we are the only one honest gambling site in bitcoin.
And surely, the only one team who work instead of taking the script copied
Dude, are you suggesting your site is more honest than JD, PD, and many other established sites? Where do you get the overconfidence?
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October 26, 2014, 10:44:15 PM |
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this game is making me rich! thanks
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I know why your pray will never be answered!
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October 26, 2014, 10:57:35 PM |
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this game is making me rich! thanks
How rich? =)
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Josepht
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October 27, 2014, 07:25:59 AM |
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this game is making me rich! thanks
How rich? =) It can't be that much since the max profit is really low. When you think $5 makes you rich, he might be right, but that's not what I think.
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