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May 14, 2012, 06:35:52 PM
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MSDN ISO + SLP activation = ultimate for free with no malware risk..

I run no AV, just a monthly scan. All keygens and anything else I don't trust gets run in VMware, browsing in another VM as we speak. Only trusted software ever makes it to my main system.

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May 14, 2012, 06:38:57 PM
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MSDN ISO + SLP activation = ultimate for free with no malware risk..

I run no AV, just a monthly scan. All keygens and anything else I don't trust gets run in VMware, browsing in another VM as we speak. Only trusted software ever makes it to my main system.
+1 for SLP activation.

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May 14, 2012, 07:19:49 PM
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Also, won't you be able to detect botnets mining in pools due to a change in mining power equal to people turning on and off their infected computers?

Doubtful, because any one person turning off or on an infected machine would have little effect upon the total hashrate.  It would be lost in the general noise.

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May 14, 2012, 09:01:26 PM
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Subscription Levels - MSDN Operating Systems - $699.00 ($499.00 Renewal)
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To get Win 7 Ultimate for free you need access to some organization that has paid for a subscription already.

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May 15, 2012, 09:01:46 AM
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Subscription Levels - MSDN Operating Systems - $699.00 ($499.00 Renewal)
https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/subscriptions/buy/buy.aspx

To get Win 7 Ultimate for free you need access to some organization that has paid for a subscription already.

...or you need access to the hashes of said ISO files to check if your downloaded copy is the same as you would buy from Microsoft.

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May 15, 2012, 01:41:58 PM
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Subscription Levels - MSDN Operating Systems - $699.00 ($499.00 Renewal)
https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/subscriptions/buy/buy.aspx

To get Win 7 Ultimate for free you need access to some organization that has paid for a subscription already.

I wonder how much Windows 7 Ultimate would cost in ⊅BTC?   Wink Grin

You can buy 'cheap legal' Microsoft keys from various people who own badly designed online stores, make occasional grammar mistakes and have good reputation on various technology forums.

Real computer users don't need antiviruses. AV is completely useless, and is easy to bypass if you have money or you can code.
Malware removal tools (malwarebytes etc.) will be more useful.
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May 16, 2012, 11:32:41 AM
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I was once using Windows 2000 SP4 without any additional updates and no antivirus.

Nothing happens if you have an organ called "brain" Wink

Using Linux all round now Grin

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May 16, 2012, 05:32:34 PM
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I was once using Windows 2000 SP4 without any additional updates and no antivirus.

Nothing happens if you have an organ called "brain" Wink

Using Linux all round now Grin

Too bad you can't game on Linux or read VRM temps using GPU-Z Tongue

I play games on Linux all the time.

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May 16, 2012, 06:05:51 PM
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It's extra money, everyone loves extra money. Also, he considers it a 'challenge', and I agree that it is one.
It's called anonymity and being careful. Your life is only ruined if you dox yourself and reveal everything to FBI lul
How is it a challenge? what he did takes no intellectual ability at all.
". Your life is only ruined if you dox yourself and reveal everything to FBI lul" What does that even mean, it's highly naive of him to think that he is untraceable.

Zeus is not compatible with Linux, and most malware isn't either, because Windows is fail and idiots use Windows (double fail)
Most malware isn't compatible with linux because the vast majority of users use windows. Creating a botnet with linux bots isn't harder than targeting windows machines but the turn over won't be as great. Also most desktop linux users are poor communists so it's not worth stealing their financial details.

Windows users are able to enjoy the largest selection of software, when I buy a new tv card I don't have to spend 10 hours compiling drivers and kernels, I simply pop a disk in and install. Who are the real idiots?

On another note if my machine was compromised I much rather it be used for bitcoin mining than key logging. That doesn't justify his actions though.

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May 20, 2012, 07:47:04 AM
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It's extra money, everyone loves extra money. Also, he considers it a 'challenge', and I agree that it is one.
It's called anonymity and being careful. Your life is only ruined if you dox yourself and reveal everything to FBI lul
How is it a challenge? what he did takes no intellectual ability at all.
". Your life is only ruined if you dox yourself and reveal everything to FBI lul" What does that even mean, it's highly naive of him to think that he is untraceable.

Zeus is not compatible with Linux, and most malware isn't either, because Windows is fail and idiots use Windows (double fail)
Most malware isn't compatible with linux because the vast majority of users use windows. Creating a botnet with linux bots isn't harder than targeting windows machines but the turn over won't be as great. Also most desktop linux users are poor communists so it's not worth stealing their financial details.

Windows users are able to enjoy the largest selection of software, when I buy a new tv card I don't have to spend 10 hours compiling drivers and kernels, I simply pop a disk in and install. Who are the real idiots?

On another note if my machine was compromised I much rather it be used for bitcoin mining than key logging. That doesn't justify his actions though.

1. Go trace him down
2. Bitcoin mining does more hardware damage than keylogging.
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June 09, 2012, 11:50:22 PM
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1. Go trace him down
2. Bitcoin mining does more hardware damage than keylogging.
It's not about hardware damage, I value my privacy more than my hardware and I definitely value my bank details more than I value my hardware.

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June 10, 2012, 01:39:17 AM
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If anyone here seriously thinks that any AV out there will protect him from a determined/experienced spreader they have another thing coming. The people who spread these things pay a measly $40 - $60 for an always updated crypter to make any RAT(Remote Administration Tool) or BTC miner bypass their AV. Hell, the AV waves at said trojan and says thanks for coming.

Hell, people even make IRC bots that infect up to 20% of their traffic if they're good. You could simply visit a website and get infected. Its that simple. The people who do this stuff make a lot of money because they're generally really good at what they do.

Edit: moral of the story, dont go download everything you see, dont lurk around fishy parts of the internet.
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June 10, 2012, 02:29:58 PM
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No AV here, haven't used one in 8+ years. Last time I did, it didn't like the contents of my file server and never used one again.

Windows security is irrelevant, they are looking at market share. That's why osx was "secure" and is now trickling to becoming "unsecure."

Security by obscurity is delusion many people don't acknowledge.

I've downloaded literally 10's of terabytes of stuff of the internet. I've never lost my identity, never got hacked, never had toolbar problems.

A good nat router is simply amazing against penetration for the money and skill level needed to install. I used to browse in a VM. That become a pain. I just turned off all the potential problems (flash, java, active-x). Problem solved. Last time I checked... html doesn't ruin your day.

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June 10, 2012, 05:45:58 PM
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No AV here, haven't used one in 8+ years. Last time I did, it didn't like the contents of my file server and never used one again.

Windows security is irrelevant, they are looking at market share. That's why osx was "secure" and is now trickling to becoming "unsecure."

Security by obscurity is delusion many people don't acknowledge.

I've downloaded literally 10's of terabytes of stuff of the internet. I've never lost my identity, never got hacked, never had toolbar problems.

A good nat router is simply amazing against penetration for the money and skill level needed to install. I used to browse in a VM. That become a pain. I just turned off all the potential problems (flash, java, active-x). Problem solved. Last time I checked... html doesn't ruin your day.

Well said. Same story here.

Nobody is out to get savvy users like me and you. No point being paranoid. Check out wilders security forums to see those guys using 10 bulletproof vests Cheesy

They are out to get idiots who click on anything they see shiny Grin

Nothing can protect those dumb users ...
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June 10, 2012, 06:06:37 PM
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Nothing can protect those dumb users ...

The only thing I can remember from my IT classes on highschool is this:
"There's no anti-virus against human stupidity!"

It served me well... so far... Tongue
Too bad I didn't learn anything else on those classes, but that statement remained lol

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July 14, 2012, 02:50:50 PM
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If anyone here seriously thinks that any AV out there will protect him from a determined/experienced spreader they have another thing coming. The people who spread these things pay a measly $40 - $60 for an always updated crypter to make any RAT(Remote Administration Tool) or BTC miner bypass their AV. Hell, the AV waves at said trojan and says thanks for coming.

Hell, people even make IRC bots that infect up to 20% of their traffic if they're good. You could simply visit a website and get infected. Its that simple. The people who do this stuff make a lot of money because they're generally really good at what they do.

Edit: moral of the story, dont go download everything you see, dont lurk around fishy parts of the internet.

You mean exploit kits, not irc bots.
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July 14, 2012, 04:00:55 PM
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I got to give him credit for what some of these botnet coders achieve (the programming side), doing this on the scale it's done is not easy and staying undetected of course even harder. He has released a bit too much information, frankly he's probably shot himself in the foot if any wanted to actually figure out who he was now.

However I do kinda hope they get caught out since this does damage the reputation of bitcoin by a negative association.
The masses still don't understand bitcoin, this is not helping.

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July 14, 2012, 04:04:15 PM
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I'm tell you guys, this stuff is going to be the end of bitcoin.

Nah, ASIC corrects this issue pretty much. Botnets will be more profitable doing something else when they come along.

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July 14, 2012, 04:42:38 PM
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My gosh people, Stop with all the OS and AV talk.

Odds are that 95% of infected comps are owned by Fucking Idiots.

Any Fucking Idiot on any operation system can get infected, CAN

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October 02, 2012, 04:10:38 AM
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Zeus is not compatible with Linux, and most malware isn't either, because Windows is fail and idiots use Windows (double fail)
Most malware isn't compatible with linux because the vast majority of users use windows. Creating a botnet with linux bots isn't harder than targeting windows machines but the turn over won't be as great. Also most desktop linux users are poor communists so it's not worth stealing their financial details.

Exactly correct, the reason there isn't much malware development for osx or linux is because the market share just isn't large enough to make it profitable. I know because I do virus removals for my living. Average day I get ~10 pcs 2 macs... about once every 2 months I get a linux user who I get to laugh at and say "just nuke the box".

But I do have to say this, the vast majority of infections are detected by AV like norton, trend or kapersky. All of the potentially useful malware is well defined and nearly impossible to hide. Most of my business comes from people who were informed by AV that a virus was found and removed. Then it's a 20 or 30 min thing for me to remove the source (whatever trojan/dropper/rootkit) they've actually got. And that's if I have to manually track it down and kill it use AR/PE/HJT. in the vast majority of cases TK and MBAM catch everything.

Additionally, most AVs now monitor performance, and would alert the user if resources had high usage. Heck it took the AV community (and virus removal techs specifically) all of 2 days to identify Zero.Access, a week later it was defined, and a week after that we had a reliable removal process pushed out to every av source that matters.

TimeTillDeath on your average botnet (remote administration tool) is a few days or weeks at best. Assuming the user had an AV installed first.





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