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October 07, 2014, 05:16:02 PM
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Some may argue you were trying to abuse the system by attempting to essentially buy trust. You'll have to work it out with him, but I don't think he did anything wrong here, especially when you were quite open in what you were attempting to do.

i simply stated that i wanted to establish myself as trustworthy, and request to receive positive trust after completion of a trade. how does that warrant a negative trust. this is bullcrap

Can you not see how trying to buy trust to make yourself appear 'trustworthy' makes you the exact opposite?

i'm not trying to make myself appear as anything you fucking retard, i'm trying to prove my trustworthiness by completing a trade!

You are managing to appear to be someone who cares only about yourself and who will fight with those who trade with you if they do not do exactly what you want.  How does that make people want to deal with you?

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October 07, 2014, 05:18:31 PM
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Some may argue you were trying to abuse the system by attempting to essentially buy trust. You'll have to work it out with him, but I don't think he did anything wrong here, especially when you were quite open in what you were attempting to do.

i simply stated that i wanted to establish myself as trustworthy, and request to receive positive trust after completion of a trade. how does that warrant a negative trust. this is bullcrap

Can you not see how trying to buy trust to make yourself appear 'trustworthy' makes you the exact opposite?

i'm not trying to make myself appear as anything you fucking retard, i'm trying to prove my trustworthiness by completing a trade!

You are managing to appear to be someone who cares only about yourself and who will fight with those who trade with you if they do not do exactly what you want.  How does that make people want to deal with you?

i want to trade with reputable members only so i don't get scammed! i would have removed my stipulation about the trust if someone told me that that wasn't allowed. how the fuck am i to know? i don't read minds.

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October 07, 2014, 05:25:09 PM
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i want to trade with reputable members only so i don't get scammed!

When I don't want to be scammed (i.e. always) I trade with any member, reputable or not, but use a trustless escrow (e.g. bitescrow.org). Trading with a reputable member means nothing, as reputation doesn't guarantee that I won't be scammed.
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October 07, 2014, 05:25:35 PM
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i want to trade with reputable members only so i don't get scammed!

When I don't want to be scammed (i.e. always) I trade with any member, reputable or not, but use a trustless escrow (e.g. bitescrow.org). Trading with a reputable member means nothing, as reputation doesn't guarantee that I won't be scammed.

how can i do escrow with paypal?

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October 07, 2014, 05:27:53 PM
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You can't, that's why you shouldn't use it and pretty much everyone gets treated with suspicion when they do because of the chargeback issue. I'd forget about trying to use PayPal all together here.

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October 07, 2014, 05:32:25 PM
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i want to trade with reputable members only so i don't get scammed!

When I don't want to be scammed (i.e. always) I trade with any member, reputable or not, but use a trustless escrow (e.g. bitescrow.org). Trading with a reputable member means nothing, as reputation doesn't guarantee that I won't be scammed.

how can i do escrow with paypal?
You can't, it can be charged back for months.

I was thinking of finding reputable hero members and asking them to do trades with me. i would send first, proving i am trustworthy. Really i just want it for bragging rights. My friends at work will be jealous of my green trust rating
You made it pretty clear you were trying to artificially inflate your trust, it backfired.  gg

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October 07, 2014, 05:36:28 PM
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Yep, that's totally the way to ask me to remove it.

You were 'buying' BTC for $5 and said you would wait til the chargeback period was over.  You clearly didn't care too much about the coins, but you really wanted that trust from somebody high ranking.  Rep loans can get you negged here, this really isn't any different

you could have confronted me, instead of going behind my back and negging my profile. how am i supposed to know, what is acceptable and what not. christ

Some may argue you were trying to abuse the system by attempting to essentially buy trust. You'll have to work it out with him, but I don't think he did anything wrong here, especially when you were quite open in what you were attempting to do.

i simply stated that i wanted to establish myself as trustworthy, and request to receive positive trust after completion of a trade. how does that warrant a negative trust. this is bullcrap

Can you not see how trying to buy trust to make yourself appear 'trustworthy' makes you the exact opposite?

i'm not trying to make myself appear as anything you fucking retard, i'm trying to prove my trustworthiness by completing a trade!

You are managing to appear to be someone who cares only about yourself and who will fight with those who trade with you if they do not do exactly what you want.  How does that make people want to deal with you?

i want to trade with reputable members only so i don't get scammed! i would have removed my stipulation about the trust if someone told me that that wasn't allowed. how the fuck am i to know? i don't read minds.

Hero member or other reputable member only. must have positive trust. After the chargeback window is closed on paypal, or whenever you are ready, you are to send me the btc. I am accepting the risk that you will not send the btc as recorded in your agreement. if you break the agreement or if i break the agreement, negative trust will be left for the breaker of the agreement. after transaction is complete and both users are sure that the deal was successful, positive feedback is to be exchanged with this thread as reference.

I was thinking of finding reputable hero members and asking them to do trades with me. i would send first, proving i am trustworthy. Really i just want it for bragging rights. My friends at work will be jealous of my green trust rating


Attempting to buy Trust won't get you much of anywhere and it may even cause your Trust to go the other way.
Bragging rights, really?


You were warned. When one finds himself in a deep hole, the first thing to do is stop digging. I believe this applies here.




When the subject of buying BTC with Paypal comes up, I often remember this: 

Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.

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October 07, 2014, 05:39:56 PM
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Yep, that's totally the way to ask me to remove it.

You were 'buying' BTC for $5 and said you would wait til the chargeback period was over.  You clearly didn't care too much about the coins, but you really wanted that trust from somebody high ranking.  Rep loans can get you negged here, this really isn't any different

you could have confronted me, instead of going behind my back and negging my profile. how am i supposed to know, what is acceptable and what not. christ

Some may argue you were trying to abuse the system by attempting to essentially buy trust. You'll have to work it out with him, but I don't think he did anything wrong here, especially when you were quite open in what you were attempting to do.

i simply stated that i wanted to establish myself as trustworthy, and request to receive positive trust after completion of a trade. how does that warrant a negative trust. this is bullcrap

Can you not see how trying to buy trust to make yourself appear 'trustworthy' makes you the exact opposite?

i'm not trying to make myself appear as anything you fucking retard, i'm trying to prove my trustworthiness by completing a trade!

You are managing to appear to be someone who cares only about yourself and who will fight with those who trade with you if they do not do exactly what you want.  How does that make people want to deal with you?

i want to trade with reputable members only so i don't get scammed! i would have removed my stipulation about the trust if someone told me that that wasn't allowed. how the fuck am i to know? i don't read minds.

Hero member or other reputable member only. must have positive trust. After the chargeback window is closed on paypal, or whenever you are ready, you are to send me the btc. I am accepting the risk that you will not send the btc as recorded in your agreement. if you break the agreement or if i break the agreement, negative trust will be left for the breaker of the agreement. after transaction is complete and both users are sure that the deal was successful, positive feedback is to be exchanged with this thread as reference.

I was thinking of finding reputable hero members and asking them to do trades with me. i would send first, proving i am trustworthy. Really i just want it for bragging rights. My friends at work will be jealous of my green trust rating


Attempting to buy Trust won't get you much of anywhere and it may even cause your Trust to go the other way.
Bragging rights, really?


You were warned. When one finds himself in a deep hole, the first thing to do is stop digging. I believe this applies here.





I wasn't trying to buy trust . jesus get it through your head

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October 07, 2014, 05:41:11 PM
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i want to trade with reputable members only so i don't get scammed!

When I don't want to be scammed (i.e. always) I trade with any member, reputable or not, but use a trustless escrow (e.g. bitescrow.org). Trading with a reputable member means nothing, as reputation doesn't guarantee that I won't be scammed.

how can i do escrow with paypal?
You can't, it can be charged back for months.

I was thinking of finding reputable hero members and asking them to do trades with me. i would send first, proving i am trustworthy. Really i just want it for bragging rights. My friends at work will be jealous of my green trust rating
You made it pretty clear you were trying to artificially inflate your trust, it backfired.  gg

no i didn't you never confronted me or asked me what my intentions were, you acted on your own accord without knowledge. what does "gg" mean. is that some type of insult?

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October 07, 2014, 05:41:38 PM
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You can't, that's why you shouldn't use it and pretty much everyone gets treated with suspicion when they do because of the chargeback issue. I'd forget about trying to use PayPal all together here.

why didn't you tell me that in the first place. fuck

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October 07, 2014, 05:41:46 PM
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I wasn't trying to buy trust . jesus get it through your head

Jesus came back already?  Shocked

what does "gg" mean.

Good game

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October 07, 2014, 05:46:02 PM
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how am i supposed to know, what is acceptable and what not. christ

If you are wanting to build up a reputation (not talking about the reputation system here - I'm talking about a real reputation), then in order to do that you'll need to invest some time to do research!  You'll have to satisfy the wants of other people.  You'll have to find out people's preferences and beliefs and desires.

You've now learned some of those preferences, the hard way.  If that motivates you to expend more effort into researching your customer base, you can probably make that one tiny mistake made by a young experienced guy at the beginning of a very successful career.

A really good reputation goes to someone who researches his customers and learns how to please them.  Arguing with them is the exact opposite of that.

Here's a great article I read recently that might be helpful to you:

http://tucker.liberty.me/2014/09/24/how-to-be-a-great-employee/

The author of the article was once told he was "useless."  Watch his response carefully and see if it benefited him or not.

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October 07, 2014, 05:48:56 PM
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I wasn't trying to buy trust . jesus get it through your head

So you don't want to be trusted at all?  Because who is going to trust an angry guy with a chip on his shoulder who yells at everybody and can't control himself?

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October 07, 2014, 05:49:37 PM
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Yep, that's totally the way to ask me to remove it.

You were 'buying' BTC for $5 and said you would wait til the chargeback period was over.  You clearly didn't care too much about the coins, but you really wanted that trust from somebody high ranking.  Rep loans can get you negged here, this really isn't any different

you could have confronted me, instead of going behind my back and negging my profile. how am i supposed to know, what is acceptable and what not. christ

Some may argue you were trying to abuse the system by attempting to essentially buy trust. You'll have to work it out with him, but I don't think he did anything wrong here, especially when you were quite open in what you were attempting to do.

i simply stated that i wanted to establish myself as trustworthy, and request to receive positive trust after completion of a trade. how does that warrant a negative trust. this is bullcrap

Can you not see how trying to buy trust to make yourself appear 'trustworthy' makes you the exact opposite?

i'm not trying to make myself appear as anything you fucking retard, i'm trying to prove my trustworthiness by completing a trade!

You are managing to appear to be someone who cares only about yourself and who will fight with those who trade with you if they do not do exactly what you want.  How does that make people want to deal with you?

i want to trade with reputable members only so i don't get scammed! i would have removed my stipulation about the trust if someone told me that that wasn't allowed. how the fuck am i to know? i don't read minds.

Hero member or other reputable member only. must have positive trust. After the chargeback window is closed on paypal, or whenever you are ready, you are to send me the btc. I am accepting the risk that you will not send the btc as recorded in your agreement. if you break the agreement or if i break the agreement, negative trust will be left for the breaker of the agreement. after transaction is complete and both users are sure that the deal was successful, positive feedback is to be exchanged with this thread as reference.

I was thinking of finding reputable hero members and asking them to do trades with me. i would send first, proving i am trustworthy. Really i just want it for bragging rights. My friends at work will be jealous of my green trust rating


Attempting to buy Trust won't get you much of anywhere and it may even cause your Trust to go the other way.
Bragging rights, really?


You were warned. When one finds himself in a deep hole, the first thing to do is stop digging. I believe this applies here.





I wasn't trying to buy trust . jesus get it through your head

When the subject of buying BTC with Paypal comes up, I often remember this: 

Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.

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October 07, 2014, 05:49:52 PM
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You can't, that's why you shouldn't use it and pretty much everyone gets treated with suspicion when they do because of the chargeback issue. I'd forget about trying to use PayPal all together here.

why didn't you tell me that in the first place. fuck

Why do you feel entitled to have other people do your research for you?

They are telling you now, and you are yelling at them and getting angry at them.

Do you always treat people badly when they give you helpful information?

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October 07, 2014, 05:50:51 PM
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I wasn't trying to buy trust . jesus get it through your head

So you don't want to be trusted at all?  Because who is going to trust an angry guy with a chip on his shoulder who yells at everybody and can't control himself?

Yeah i wanted to be trusted. thats kinda what this whole thing is about. I am angry because i'm under attack for what i perceive to be minor. Now my reputation contains negative feedbacks, i am ruined.

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October 07, 2014, 05:52:42 PM
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Yep, that's totally the way to ask me to remove it.

You were 'buying' BTC for $5 and said you would wait til the chargeback period was over.  You clearly didn't care too much about the coins, but you really wanted that trust from somebody high ranking.  Rep loans can get you negged here, this really isn't any different

you could have confronted me, instead of going behind my back and negging my profile. how am i supposed to know, what is acceptable and what not. christ

Some may argue you were trying to abuse the system by attempting to essentially buy trust. You'll have to work it out with him, but I don't think he did anything wrong here, especially when you were quite open in what you were attempting to do.

i simply stated that i wanted to establish myself as trustworthy, and request to receive positive trust after completion of a trade. how does that warrant a negative trust. this is bullcrap

Can you not see how trying to buy trust to make yourself appear 'trustworthy' makes you the exact opposite?

i'm not trying to make myself appear as anything you fucking retard, i'm trying to prove my trustworthiness by completing a trade!

You are managing to appear to be someone who cares only about yourself and who will fight with those who trade with you if they do not do exactly what you want.  How does that make people want to deal with you?

i want to trade with reputable members only so i don't get scammed! i would have removed my stipulation about the trust if someone told me that that wasn't allowed. how the fuck am i to know? i don't read minds.

Hero member or other reputable member only. must have positive trust. After the chargeback window is closed on paypal, or whenever you are ready, you are to send me the btc. I am accepting the risk that you will not send the btc as recorded in your agreement. if you break the agreement or if i break the agreement, negative trust will be left for the breaker of the agreement. after transaction is complete and both users are sure that the deal was successful, positive feedback is to be exchanged with this thread as reference.

I was thinking of finding reputable hero members and asking them to do trades with me. i would send first, proving i am trustworthy. Really i just want it for bragging rights. My friends at work will be jealous of my green trust rating


Attempting to buy Trust won't get you much of anywhere and it may even cause your Trust to go the other way.
Bragging rights, really?


You were warned. When one finds himself in a deep hole, the first thing to do is stop digging. I believe this applies here.





I wasn't trying to buy trust . jesus get it through your head

What is the big sin here? i simply stipulated the terms of my agreement. I fail to see why this is such a controversial an issue? People make trades and leave feedback all the time. Why am i not allowed to stipulate that in a deal?

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October 07, 2014, 05:56:09 PM
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Yep, that's totally the way to ask me to remove it.

You were 'buying' BTC for $5 and said you would wait til the chargeback period was over.  You clearly didn't care too much about the coins, but you really wanted that trust from somebody high ranking.  Rep loans can get you negged here, this really isn't any different

you could have confronted me, instead of going behind my back and negging my profile. how am i supposed to know, what is acceptable and what not. christ

Some may argue you were trying to abuse the system by attempting to essentially buy trust. You'll have to work it out with him, but I don't think he did anything wrong here, especially when you were quite open in what you were attempting to do.

i simply stated that i wanted to establish myself as trustworthy, and request to receive positive trust after completion of a trade. how does that warrant a negative trust. this is bullcrap

Can you not see how trying to buy trust to make yourself appear 'trustworthy' makes you the exact opposite?

i'm not trying to make myself appear as anything you fucking retard, i'm trying to prove my trustworthiness by completing a trade!

You are managing to appear to be someone who cares only about yourself and who will fight with those who trade with you if they do not do exactly what you want.  How does that make people want to deal with you?

i want to trade with reputable members only so i don't get scammed! i would have removed my stipulation about the trust if someone told me that that wasn't allowed. how the fuck am i to know? i don't read minds.

Hero member or other reputable member only. must have positive trust. After the chargeback window is closed on paypal, or whenever you are ready, you are to send me the btc. I am accepting the risk that you will not send the btc as recorded in your agreement. if you break the agreement or if i break the agreement, negative trust will be left for the breaker of the agreement. after transaction is complete and both users are sure that the deal was successful, positive feedback is to be exchanged with this thread as reference.

I was thinking of finding reputable hero members and asking them to do trades with me. i would send first, proving i am trustworthy. Really i just want it for bragging rights. My friends at work will be jealous of my green trust rating


Attempting to buy Trust won't get you much of anywhere and it may even cause your Trust to go the other way.
Bragging rights, really?


You were warned. When one finds himself in a deep hole, the first thing to do is stop digging. I believe this applies here.





I wasn't trying to buy trust . jesus get it through your head

What is the big sin here? i simply stipulated the terms of my agreement. I fail to see why this is such a controversial an issue? People make trades and leave feedback all the time. Why am i not allowed to stipulate that in a deal?
Because you were trading to make your trust go up, not do regular trades and have your trust go up by effect like the system is for.  One means you're legitimate, one means the exact opposite.

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October 07, 2014, 05:57:40 PM
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Yep, that's totally the way to ask me to remove it.

You were 'buying' BTC for $5 and said you would wait til the chargeback period was over.  You clearly didn't care too much about the coins, but you really wanted that trust from somebody high ranking.  Rep loans can get you negged here, this really isn't any different

you could have confronted me, instead of going behind my back and negging my profile. how am i supposed to know, what is acceptable and what not. christ

Some may argue you were trying to abuse the system by attempting to essentially buy trust. You'll have to work it out with him, but I don't think he did anything wrong here, especially when you were quite open in what you were attempting to do.

i simply stated that i wanted to establish myself as trustworthy, and request to receive positive trust after completion of a trade. how does that warrant a negative trust. this is bullcrap

Can you not see how trying to buy trust to make yourself appear 'trustworthy' makes you the exact opposite?

i'm not trying to make myself appear as anything you fucking retard, i'm trying to prove my trustworthiness by completing a trade!

You are managing to appear to be someone who cares only about yourself and who will fight with those who trade with you if they do not do exactly what you want.  How does that make people want to deal with you?

i want to trade with reputable members only so i don't get scammed! i would have removed my stipulation about the trust if someone told me that that wasn't allowed. how the fuck am i to know? i don't read minds.

Hero member or other reputable member only. must have positive trust. After the chargeback window is closed on paypal, or whenever you are ready, you are to send me the btc. I am accepting the risk that you will not send the btc as recorded in your agreement. if you break the agreement or if i break the agreement, negative trust will be left for the breaker of the agreement. after transaction is complete and both users are sure that the deal was successful, positive feedback is to be exchanged with this thread as reference.

I was thinking of finding reputable hero members and asking them to do trades with me. i would send first, proving i am trustworthy. Really i just want it for bragging rights. My friends at work will be jealous of my green trust rating


Attempting to buy Trust won't get you much of anywhere and it may even cause your Trust to go the other way.
Bragging rights, really?


You were warned. When one finds himself in a deep hole, the first thing to do is stop digging. I believe this applies here.





I wasn't trying to buy trust . jesus get it through your head

What is the big sin here? i simply stipulated the terms of my agreement. I fail to see why this is such a controversial an issue? People make trades and leave feedback all the time. Why am i not allowed to stipulate that in a deal?
Because you were trading to make your trust go up, not do regular trades and have your trust go up by effect like the system is for.  One means you're legitimate, one means the exact opposite.
I disagree, but i guess that i have no choice but fall in line, with all of you web bullies forcing my hand. What can i do from here? How do i get the negative trusts removed and start over? is it possible to get a second chance

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October 07, 2014, 05:59:44 PM
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Yep, that's totally the way to ask me to remove it.

You were 'buying' BTC for $5 and said you would wait til the chargeback period was over.  You clearly didn't care too much about the coins, but you really wanted that trust from somebody high ranking.  Rep loans can get you negged here, this really isn't any different

you could have confronted me, instead of going behind my back and negging my profile. how am i supposed to know, what is acceptable and what not. christ

Some may argue you were trying to abuse the system by attempting to essentially buy trust. You'll have to work it out with him, but I don't think he did anything wrong here, especially when you were quite open in what you were attempting to do.

i simply stated that i wanted to establish myself as trustworthy, and request to receive positive trust after completion of a trade. how does that warrant a negative trust. this is bullcrap

Can you not see how trying to buy trust to make yourself appear 'trustworthy' makes you the exact opposite?

i'm not trying to make myself appear as anything you fucking retard, i'm trying to prove my trustworthiness by completing a trade!

You are managing to appear to be someone who cares only about yourself and who will fight with those who trade with you if they do not do exactly what you want.  How does that make people want to deal with you?

i want to trade with reputable members only so i don't get scammed! i would have removed my stipulation about the trust if someone told me that that wasn't allowed. how the fuck am i to know? i don't read minds.

Hero member or other reputable member only. must have positive trust. After the chargeback window is closed on paypal, or whenever you are ready, you are to send me the btc. I am accepting the risk that you will not send the btc as recorded in your agreement. if you break the agreement or if i break the agreement, negative trust will be left for the breaker of the agreement. after transaction is complete and both users are sure that the deal was successful, positive feedback is to be exchanged with this thread as reference.

I was thinking of finding reputable hero members and asking them to do trades with me. i would send first, proving i am trustworthy. Really i just want it for bragging rights. My friends at work will be jealous of my green trust rating


Attempting to buy Trust won't get you much of anywhere and it may even cause your Trust to go the other way.
Bragging rights, really?


You were warned. When one finds himself in a deep hole, the first thing to do is stop digging. I believe this applies here.





I wasn't trying to buy trust . jesus get it through your head

What is the big sin here? i simply stipulated the terms of my agreement. I fail to see why this is such a controversial an issue? People make trades and leave feedback all the time. Why am i not allowed to stipulate that in a deal?
Because you were trading to make your trust go up, not do regular trades and have your trust go up by effect like the system is for.  One means you're legitimate, one means the exact opposite.
I disagree, but i guess that i have no choice but fall in line, with all of you web bullies forcing my hand. What can i do from here? How do i get the negative trusts removed and start over? is it possible to get a second chance
Trust can only be removed by the person who leaves it. Most people in your situation would create a new account although i don't support multi accounting. The trust system is unmoderated so no admin will remove it.

Message me if you have any problems
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