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Elwar
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Viva Ut Vivas
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October 12, 2014, 07:46:59 PM |
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Welcome to Bitcoin!
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First seastead company actually selling sea homes: Ocean Builders https://ocean.builders Of course we accept bitcoin.
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Somekindabitcoin
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October 12, 2014, 07:50:19 PM |
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Welcome to Bitcoin!
If you would also like, there is a Conspiracy coin in the alt markets
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jonald_fyookball
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October 12, 2014, 07:59:01 PM |
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people have been trying to create digital cash since the 80s... That's no secret. But it wasn't until Satoshi invented Bitcoin that it became possible.
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Melbustus
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October 12, 2014, 08:02:38 PM |
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FWIW, it doesn't matter who created bitcoin. The code is the code. That's kinda the whole point. You could prove to me that the CIA/NSA/PaulKrugman/Whoever created bitcoin and it wouldn't influence my desire to use it or hold it at all.
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Bitcoin is the first monetary system to credibly offer perfect information to all economic participants.
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247casino
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October 12, 2014, 08:09:13 PM |
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Let's see TOR was a NSA project (Naval Intelligence under NSA)
Most crypto think tanks and players have been funded by groups or projects that lead back to the NSA, whose job it is to be a central depository for crypto related ideas and development.
NSA most likely have insiders in any crypto related project and if Satoshi was a project, it doesn't really matter now.
It is the currency of the underground, drugs (often connected to CIA) and gambling (SEALS with Clubs is that a possble reference to Navy Seals or Naval Intelligence).
Unless you are doing huge numbers and hanging out in the USA I guess it doesn't matter if they can track who is really moving btc around.
Will they steal from wallets? I doubt it, their abilities are most likely just related to tracking movement if they have any involvement at all.
Who knows, maybe they are btc and using the dough for black ops projects.
As long as your own btc wallet is secure and the users keep coming into the network, the value is real.
All crypto related players and projects eventually lead back to intelligence org's IMO and they have back doors in Windows and most OS's now, so the spooks know who you are. Just read the Snowden doc's on how backdoored ECC is now. The spooks know everything, if you are outside the USA and not doing drugs, I doubt they will ever bother you over btc. No one has explained yet how Silk Road fell, his lawyer motioned for docs to show the original breach in TOR or BTC that led to him. No response yet, it may be the NSA.
So what if you're not doing anything major that is illegal.
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Billbags
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October 12, 2014, 08:17:15 PM Last edit: October 12, 2014, 08:34:58 PM by Billbags |
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The government didn't create bitcoin. The cypherpunks created bitcoin in one way or another.
@ jonald_fyookball quote: "But it wasn't until Satoshi invented Bitcoin that it became possible".
*Actually, bitcoin didn't become possible until Hal Finney figured out his "RPOW” could be added on top of Adam Back’s “HashCash” to create the solution for the Byzantine General’s Problem which prevented systems like BitGold/Bitcoin from being a reality.
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QuestionAuthority
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October 12, 2014, 08:20:27 PM |
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Let's see TOR was a NSA project (Naval Intelligence under NSA)
Most crypto think tanks and players have been funded by groups or projects that lead back to the NSA, whose job it is to be a central depository for crypto related ideas and development.
NSA most likely have insiders in any crypto related project and if Satoshi was a project, it doesn't really matter now.
It is the currency of the underground, drugs (often connected to CIA) and gambling (SEALS with Clubs is that a possble reference to Navy Seals or Naval Intelligence).
Unless you are doing huge numbers and hanging out in the USA I guess it doesn't matter if they can track who is really moving btc around.
Will they steal from wallets? I doubt it, their abilities are most likely just related to tracking movement if they have any involvement at all.
Who knows, maybe they are btc and using the dough for black ops projects.
As long as your own btc wallet is secure and the users keep coming into the network, the value is real.
All crypto related players and projects eventually lead back to intelligence org's IMO and they have back doors in Windows and most OS's now, so the spooks know who you are. Just read the Snowden doc's on how backdoored ECC is now. The spooks know everything, if you are outside the USA and not doing drugs, I doubt they will ever bother you over btc. No one has explained yet how Silk Road fell, his lawyer motioned for docs to show the original breach in TOR or BTC that led to him. No response yet, it may be the NSA.
So what if you're not doing anything major that is illegal.
It was a flaw in the website captcha.
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247casino
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October 12, 2014, 08:23:58 PM |
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All I know is they can't hack wallets, that's why they had to get him while a wallet was open, so all the other wallets not open are still filled with SR coin.
It wouldn't surprise me if they tracked him through TOR though.
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abs350
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October 12, 2014, 08:32:34 PM |
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FWIW, it doesn't matter who created bitcoin. The code is the code. That's kinda the whole point. You could prove to me that the CIA/NSA/PaulKrugman/Whoever created bitcoin and it wouldn't influence my desire to use it or hold it at all.
BULLSHIT
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Melbustus
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October 12, 2014, 08:35:48 PM |
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FWIW, it doesn't matter who created bitcoin. The code is the code. That's kinda the whole point. You could prove to me that the CIA/NSA/PaulKrugman/Whoever created bitcoin and it wouldn't influence my desire to use it or hold it at all.
BULLSHIT Nope. Saying that highly suggests you don't really understand how bitcoin, or open-source ideas in general, work(s).
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Bitcoin is the first monetary system to credibly offer perfect information to all economic participants.
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mnmShadyBTC
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October 12, 2014, 08:45:47 PM |
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Let's see TOR was a NSA project (Naval Intelligence under NSA)
Most crypto think tanks and players have been funded by groups or projects that lead back to the NSA, whose job it is to be a central depository for crypto related ideas and development.
NSA most likely have insiders in any crypto related project and if Satoshi was a project, it doesn't really matter now.
It is the currency of the underground, drugs (often connected to CIA) and gambling (SEALS with Clubs is that a possble reference to Navy Seals or Naval Intelligence).
Unless you are doing huge numbers and hanging out in the USA I guess it doesn't matter if they can track who is really moving btc around.
Will they steal from wallets? I doubt it, their abilities are most likely just related to tracking movement if they have any involvement at all.
Who knows, maybe they are btc and using the dough for black ops projects.
As long as your own btc wallet is secure and the users keep coming into the network, the value is real.
All crypto related players and projects eventually lead back to intelligence org's IMO and they have back doors in Windows and most OS's now, so the spooks know who you are. Just read the Snowden doc's on how backdoored ECC is now. The spooks know everything, if you are outside the USA and not doing drugs, I doubt they will ever bother you over btc. No one has explained yet how Silk Road fell, his lawyer motioned for docs to show the original breach in TOR or BTC that led to him. No response yet, it may be the NSA.
So what if you're not doing anything major that is illegal.
TOR did and still does serve a good purpose for the US military (and US LE) as well as US public policy (as allowing people in other countries to practice freedom of speech). It is a very good point that the government does still not control TOR nor do they have any kind of "back door" to TOR. I do not believe that the NSA (or any other part of the US government) created bitcoin, but even if they did a very similar principle applies.
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jonald_fyookball
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Core dev leaves me neg feedback #abuse #political
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October 12, 2014, 08:48:12 PM |
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The government didn't create bitcoin. The cypherpunks created bitcoin in one way or another.
@ jonald_fyookball quote: "But it wasn't until Satoshi invented Bitcoin that it became possible".
*Actually, bitcoin didn't become possible until Hal Finney figured out his "RPOW” could be added on top of Adam Back’s “HashCash” to create the solution for the Byzantine General’s Problem which prevented systems like BitGold/Bitcoin from being a reality.
not that it really matters, but that makes it sound like Finney invented Bitcoin, not Satoshi. Satoshi referend POW in his white paper first, did he not?
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QuestionAuthority
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October 12, 2014, 09:18:14 PM |
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The government didn't create bitcoin. The cypherpunks created bitcoin in one way or another.
@ jonald_fyookball quote: "But it wasn't until Satoshi invented Bitcoin that it became possible".
*Actually, bitcoin didn't become possible until Hal Finney figured out his "RPOW” could be added on top of Adam Back’s “HashCash” to create the solution for the Byzantine General’s Problem which prevented systems like BitGold/Bitcoin from being a reality.
not that it really matters, but that makes it sound like Finney invented Bitcoin, not Satoshi. Satoshi referend POW in his white paper first, did he not? Whoever Satoshi was he didn't invent Bitcoin alone. It was a collaboration between Satoshi, Hal Finney and Ray Dillinger building on the previous work of Adam Back and others.
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October 12, 2014, 09:20:27 PM |
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The government didn't create bitcoin. The cypherpunks created bitcoin in one way or another.
@ jonald_fyookball quote: "But it wasn't until Satoshi invented Bitcoin that it became possible".
*Actually, bitcoin didn't become possible until Hal Finney figured out his "RPOW” could be added on top of Adam Back’s “HashCash” to create the solution for the Byzantine General’s Problem which prevented systems like BitGold/Bitcoin from being a reality.
not that it really matters, but that makes it sound like Finney invented Bitcoin, not Satoshi. Satoshi referend POW in his white paper first, did he not? Whoever Satoshi was he didn't invent Bitcoin alone. It was a collaboration between Satoshi, Hal Finney and Ray Dillinger building on the previous work of Adam Back and others. I wonder how much of it was derived from Hal's work on RPOW?
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My negative trust rating is reflective of a personal vendetta by someone on default trust.
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October 12, 2014, 09:23:43 PM |
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The government didn't create bitcoin. The cypherpunks created bitcoin in one way or another.
@ jonald_fyookball quote: "But it wasn't until Satoshi invented Bitcoin that it became possible".
*Actually, bitcoin didn't become possible until Hal Finney figured out his "RPOW” could be added on top of Adam Back’s “HashCash” to create the solution for the Byzantine General’s Problem which prevented systems like BitGold/Bitcoin from being a reality.
not that it really matters, but that makes it sound like Finney invented Bitcoin, not Satoshi. Satoshi referend POW in his white paper first, did he not? Whoever Satoshi was he didn't invent Bitcoin alone. It was a collaboration between Satoshi, Hal Finney and Ray Dillinger building on the previous work of Adam Back and others. I wonder how much of it was derived from Hal's work on RPOW? To bad we can't ask them. Two out of the three are gone.
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smolen
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October 12, 2014, 09:29:57 PM |
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Early Bitcoin code is written in utterly non-corporate style. Looks like a work of a scientist, not of some group of professional programmers. So, for me, it's quite unlikely that Bitcoin was funded and managed project.
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Of course I gave you bad advice. Good one is way out of your price range.
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247casino
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October 12, 2014, 09:36:08 PM |
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First bitcoin core was a windows compiled job
No one but satoshi knows what was in it
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Melbustus
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October 12, 2014, 09:37:51 PM |
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... Whoever Satoshi was he didn't invent Bitcoin alone. It was a collaboration between Satoshi, Hal Finney and Ray Dillinger building on the previous work of Adam Back and others.
I wonder how much of it was derived from Hal's work on RPOW? To bad we can't ask them. Two out of the three are gone. Well, you can ask Ray whatever you want. He's active here. Uhh, I don't remember ever agreeing to keep it secret, but we didn't talk about it on the list either. At that time Hal was elbows-deep in the transaction scripting code, and I was checking Satoshi's work on the crypto on the blockchain architecture. Finney had a lot to worry about with the transaction scripting and wound up blocking out about a dozen more opcodes than Satoshi had wanted to, but I found essentially nothing wrong with the block structure. I am still freakin' amazed how tight he got that blockchain design. And, yeah, I'm Ray Dillinger.
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Bitcoin is the first monetary system to credibly offer perfect information to all economic participants.
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Lethn
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October 12, 2014, 09:40:52 PM |
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Bitcoin is open source, stop making up bullshit.
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