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So you're admitting that you don't even know if this website is legitimate or not? You seem to have doubts. Why send them money if you're not even sure that they're legitimate?
Of course I don't know. How should I know? Yes, I invested my funds there, not knowing anything about those who have launched this service. So what? Not much time has passed since my good friend has received advice from the veterans of the forum to use Mt.Gox exchange. ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) There's a massive difference between MtGox and this. MtGox had a legitimate business model: trade Bitcoins for fiat and the company takes a (small) cut. They screwed up their business, as we all know. But there are several other companies still out there, with the exact same business model, doing fine. An exchange is a real business model. It can still attract incompetent or dishonest people, sure. But the business model is okay. Cryptonyx has no legitimate business model. There is no way to obtain 6% profit per week guaranteed with no risk. And even if they could, why would they seek investments from Joe Average putting in $50. Any company that can prove that they can make 6% per week with little to no risk (or even 1%, or less), will have VC investors falling over eachother to invest. This would offer the company far better terms with way less hassle (no need for a website, no need for customer support, no fluctuating investments and withdrawals). So since you invested in this place, what was your reasoning to do so? Why do you believe that they do what they claim to do? What convinced you that this is likely not a scam?
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October 18, 2014, 03:00:38 PM |
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There's a massive difference between MtGox and this. MtGox had a legitimate business model: trade Bitcoins for fiat and the company takes a (small) cut. They screwed up their business, as we all know. But there are several other companies still out there, with the exact same business model, doing fine. An exchange is a real business model. It can still attract incompetent or dishonest people, sure. But the business model is okay.
And why, in this case, a legitimate model is better? I know, legitimate model can attract a large audience, and as a consequence scam more customers. Awesome... There is no way to obtain 6% profit per week guaranteed with no risk.
Even to buy 1 BTC is already a big risk. What convinced you that this is likely not a scam?
To convince is the wrong word. I see here a good opportunity to earn BTC.
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October 18, 2014, 03:05:15 PM |
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There's a massive difference between MtGox and this. MtGox had a legitimate business model: trade Bitcoins for fiat and the company takes a (small) cut. They screwed up their business, as we all know. But there are several other companies still out there, with the exact same business model, doing fine. An exchange is a real business model. It can still attract incompetent or dishonest people, sure. But the business model is okay.
And why, in this case, a legitimate model is better? I know, legitimate model can attract a large audience, and as a consequence scam more customers. Awesome... There is no way to obtain 6% profit per week guaranteed with no risk.
Even to buy 1 BTC is already a big risk. What convinced you that this is likely not a scam?
To convince is the wrong word. I see here a good opportunity to earn BTC. You are just writing down words now, you make no sense. Rannasha, you're being trolled mate, probably for post count and bumping.
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October 18, 2014, 03:08:05 PM |
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There's a massive difference between MtGox and this. MtGox had a legitimate business model: trade Bitcoins for fiat and the company takes a (small) cut. They screwed up their business, as we all know. But there are several other companies still out there, with the exact same business model, doing fine. An exchange is a real business model. It can still attract incompetent or dishonest people, sure. But the business model is okay.
And why, in this case, a legitimate model is better? I know, legitimate model can attract a large audience, and as a consequence scam more customers. Awesome... There is no way to obtain 6% profit per week guaranteed with no risk.
Even to buy 1 BTC is already a big risk. What convinced you that this is likely not a scam?
To convince is the wrong word. I see here a good opportunity to earn BTC. You are just writing down words now, you make no sense. Rannasha, you're being trolled mate, probably for post count and bumping. Considering the evasiveness of LorkiSan's answers, I think it's highly probable that he is a paid shill. This is not new, a previous Ponzi scheme (Cryptory) paid people to post on this forum promoting the scheme. After pushing long enough, the shills admitted that, around the time the scheme collapsed (if I recall the chronology correctly).
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October 18, 2014, 03:15:21 PM |
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you're being trolled mate, probably for post count and bumping.
Thanks, but I already guessed... Upd: Oh... Sorry, I thought it was for me...
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October 18, 2014, 03:31:47 PM |
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Considering the evasiveness of LorkiSan's answers, I think it's highly probable that he is a paid shill. This is not new, a previous Ponzi scheme (Cryptory) paid people to post on this forum promoting the scheme. After pushing long enough, the shills admitted that, around the time the scheme collapsed (if I recall the chronology correctly).
Yeah, I remember Cryptory, at least they put a bit of effort into that Ponzi, with the photographs and stuff, not like this transparent nonsense. Those shills only lost their nerve after Dooglus started hitting them with neg trust, iirc. These two on here seem to be run by some sort of circular script, probably carry on with their nonsense posts indefinitely. Or the couple of weeks it may take for this joke 'investment opportunity' to eat itself.
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October 18, 2014, 03:55:26 PM |
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Considering the evasiveness of LorkiSan's answers, I think it's highly probable that he is a paid shill. This is not new, a previous Ponzi scheme (Cryptory) paid people to post on this forum promoting the scheme. After pushing long enough, the shills admitted that, around the time the scheme collapsed (if I recall the chronology correctly).
Yeah, I remember Cryptory, at least they put a bit of effort into that Ponzi, with the photographs and stuff, not like this transparent nonsense. Those shills only lost their nerve after Dooglus started hitting them with neg trust, iirc. These two on here seem to be run by some sort of circular script, probably carry on with their nonsense posts indefinitely. Or the couple of weeks it may take for this joke 'investment opportunity' to eat itself. Hmm, you said you are not a fool. Do you pretend to be?
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October 19, 2014, 07:21:53 PM Last edit: October 19, 2014, 08:12:41 PM by hertruda89 |
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You are just writing down words now, you make no sense.
He said it right, stop trolling here Update:Received payment today! Affiliate program works ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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October 19, 2014, 11:54:46 PM |
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stop investing your money in these ponzis people, sooner or later they will all end like BT
THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS FREE MONEY
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October 20, 2014, 03:06:19 AM Last edit: October 20, 2014, 03:27:41 AM by dha |
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stop investing your money in these ponzis people, sooner or later they will all end like BT
THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS FREE MONEY
6% per week? You dont even have to visit the site to tell it´s a scam. this would be (((1+6/100)^52)-1)*100 percent per year (if you dont withdraw gains before 12 months). In other words: Someone is promissing you a secret method to give you roughly one thousand ninehundred seventy percent p.a..... sure. sounds legit.* *...for the simple minded: this is straight forward fraud. people who post positive about this criminal operation here get paid to do so.
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October 20, 2014, 04:47:23 AM |
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people who post positive about this criminal operation here get paid to do so.
Have I missed something? Whom can I contact to get money for opening this topic? LOL
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October 20, 2014, 09:43:07 AM |
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stop investing your money in these ponzis people, sooner or later they will all end like BT
THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS FREE MONEY
6% per week? You dont even have to visit the site to tell it´s a scam. this would be (((1+6/100)^52)-1)*100 percent per year (if you dont withdraw gains before 12 months). In other words: Someone is promissing you a secret method to give you roughly one thousand ninehundred seventy percent p.a..... sure. sounds legit.* *...for the simple minded: this is straight forward fraud. people who post positive about this criminal operation here get paid to do so. 1970% p.a. and not a fraud? now that is LOL-able. it is exactly this kind of highly criminal bullshit that gives bitcoin the bad image it really doesnt need. you, sir goldsurfer, are a fraud.
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October 20, 2014, 10:07:59 AM |
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you, sir goldsurfer, are a fraud.
I'm not going to continue this conversation without the involvement of your parents.
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October 20, 2014, 10:55:06 AM |
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you, sir goldsurfer, are a fraud.
I'm not going to continue this conversation without the involvement of your parents. funny how you never react to those parts of my posts which very clearly show how your service (no other reason is plausible for your ongoing defensive involvement in this thread) is nothing but a criminal scheme. promising 1970% per annum is just screaming FRAUD.
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October 20, 2014, 11:28:01 AM |
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So I've noticed a string of Ponzis all starting similar to this: Hi, what can you say about this site? Did not find information about it on the forum. I really like the design, saw an ad recently)
And I see these two same defenses over and over from scammers trying to protect their scam: #1: Focusing on the character of the critic instead of the criticism itself. Just another ponzi for fools ...
Rudeness is also not from the great mind! #2: Moral equivalency -- convincing yourself and others that its OK to engage in disreputable business because there are bigger scammers than you out there. In Bitcoinland, it is perfectly normal to expect 1% daily ROI from total strangers and to send unrecoverable money to an anonymous website.
I agree, but this is not the worst that happens in "Bitcoinland" =) All the scammers think to themselves, "Hey, at least I'm not Bernie Madoff!" And Bernie Madoff thinks to himself, "Hey, at least I'm not Hitler!" GoldSurfer you are total bullshit and just because other people are out doing bad things it doesn't make what you are doing any less worse.
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October 20, 2014, 11:50:08 AM |
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GoldSurfer you are total bullshit
I don't care what you think about me, insults are off-topic. You are extremely ill-mannered, mentioning Hitler is the worst of all that was in this thread.
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October 20, 2014, 12:51:24 PM |
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GoldSurfer you are total bullshit
I don't care what you think about me, insults are off-topic. You are extremely ill-mannered, mentioning Hitler is the worst of all that was in this thread. now ladies and gentlemen please regard this scammer specimen: GoldSurfer got spotted because too amateur to scam and now is crying.
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October 20, 2014, 03:08:51 PM |
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site down for me
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October 20, 2014, 03:19:40 PM |
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site down for me
And for me, too.
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October 20, 2014, 09:01:34 PM |
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You are extremely ill-mannered, mentioning Hitler is the worst of all that was in this thread.
Please re-read scammer defense strategy #1: #1: Focusing on the character of the critic instead of the criticism itself.
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