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October 30, 2014, 04:52:19 AM |
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I personally think the owner will be the demise for this site. I am pretty much sure this guy isn't dmf but you can never be 100% This guy just does not seem smart enough to run a site like this and it to not go down hill quickly when shit happens. I mean look at the un-terminated games, and his laziness to show transparency. He also doesn't carry himself as professionally as lets say Eric or Ryan.
I just don't see a reason to play here, when you have a longer established and semi-well trusted site already. The risk seems silly to me but maybe there is something I'm missing.
your right dmf would be way more professional than this guy
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Insanity
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October 30, 2014, 05:09:28 AM |
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I personally think the owner will be the demise for this site. I am pretty much sure this guy isn't dmf but you can never be 100% This guy just does not seem smart enough to run a site like this and it to not go down hill quickly when shit happens. I mean look at the un-terminated games, and his laziness to show transparency. He also doesn't carry himself as professionally as lets say Eric or Ryan.
I just don't see a reason to play here, when you have a longer established and semi-well trusted site already. The risk seems silly to me but maybe there is something I'm missing.
Yeah there's really no reason to use this site, maybe new users will see the advertisement for this site before they see the one for moneypot though and try this site out.
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dooglus
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October 30, 2014, 06:48:11 AM |
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I just don't see a reason to play here, when you have a longer established and semi-well trusted site already. The risk seems silly to me but maybe there is something I'm missing.
Imagine you know nothing about either site and stumble upon them both. Which one looks better? Which one looks professional, solid, etc... In my opinion tothemoon is way ahead of moneypot in terms of design, and to any newcomer I'm sure it is the one they would feel safest with. It's only when you learn about the history of the two sites that the picture becomes clearer.
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October 30, 2014, 02:35:37 PM |
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Ok guys I started this site because I liked the idea so much and decided to just do it and launch it.
Since the start there was nothing but negative things about Tothemoon, is it a scam, is it a cheat and of course did he steal it. I really didn't mean to do anything wrong, I did made the mistake of not open-sourcing it at the launch like the license told. I always payed out all withdrawals. But this doesnt matter of course. Now my job has also interferes with this project, and I have to choose.
So I decide to close the site. Thanks all who played and tried the site anyway. Please withdraw all your bitcoin of course.
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abrahamlitcoin
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October 30, 2014, 02:45:00 PM |
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There are certainly a lot of other ways for the house to cheat:
* Bet Rejection (Reject a bet on a good game) * House whale (Selectively lower the potential profit on a good game) * Simulated lag (Reject cashouts that occur a few miliseconds before game crash) * Not terminating a game cleanly
You certainly seem to be an expert on cheating! will you pipe down, I'm trying to learn from the best Too much red flag summarized by a pro. Be careful.
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omahapoker
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October 30, 2014, 02:55:07 PM |
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Ok guys I started this site because I liked the idea so much and decided to just do it and launch it.
Since the start there was nothing but negative things about Tothemoon, is it a scam, is it a cheat and of course did he steal it. I really didn't mean to do anything wrong, I did made the mistake of not open-sourcing it at the launch like the license told. I always payed out all withdrawals. But this doesnt matter of course. Now my job has also interferes with this project, and I have to choose.
So I decide to close the site. Thanks all who played and tried the site anyway. Please withdraw all your bitcoin of course.
yep, this is dmf.
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DarKSpectrE
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October 30, 2014, 03:58:24 PM |
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Since the start there was nothing but negative things about Tothemoon, is it a scam, is it a cheat and of course did he steal it. I really didn't mean to do anything wrong, I did made the mistake of not open-sourcing it at the launch like the license told. Mistake? I remember you repeatedly refused to disclose your source code until Dooglus neg-repped you.
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dooglus
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October 30, 2014, 06:00:04 PM |
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So I decide to close the site.
Is this related to the decision to close SatoshiBet to US players too? we have decided, effective immediately, to close SatoshiBet.com to US players
Does this apply to "tothemoon" as well, or just the main satoshibet site?
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blockage
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October 30, 2014, 06:24:22 PM |
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Since the start there was nothing but negative things about Tothemoon, is it a scam, is it a cheat and of course did he steal it.
Seems like a normal day in Bitcoin land. I really didn't mean to do anything wrong, I did made the mistake of not open-sourcing it at the launch like the license told. I always payed out all withdrawals. But this doesnt matter of course. Now my job has also interferes with this project, and I have to choose.
So I decide to close the site. Thanks all who played and tried the site anyway. Please withdraw all your bitcoin of course.
I'm sorry to see you closing. All the best anyway.
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dooglus
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October 31, 2014, 12:49:30 AM |
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Since the start there was nothing but negative things about Tothemoon, is it a scam, is it a cheat and of course did he steal it.
I'm sure you can see why people might be sceptical of a new site that launched shortly after two big dice sites turned out to be scams, especially when it is initially using another site's code without permission.
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October 31, 2014, 02:23:41 AM |
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Since the start there was nothing but negative things about Tothemoon, is it a scam, is it a cheat and of course did he steal it.
I'm sure you can see why people might be sceptical of a new site that launched shortly after two big dice sites turned out to be scams, especially when it is initially using another site's code without permission. what other site scammed besides dice.ninja?
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October 31, 2014, 02:32:01 AM |
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damnit, i didnt know that dice ninja is a scam plinko signalled a new start
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dooglus
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October 31, 2014, 02:57:05 AM |
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I'm sure you can see why people might be sceptical of a new site that launched shortly after two big dice sites turned out to be scams, especially when it is initially using another site's code without permission.
what other site scammed besides dice.ninja? dicebitco.in, then dice.ninja
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hobala
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October 31, 2014, 03:06:11 AM |
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I'm sure you can see why people might be sceptical of a new site that launched shortly after two big dice sites turned out to be scams, especially when it is initially using another site's code without permission.
what other site scammed besides dice.ninja? dicebitco.in, then dice.ninja i,m just know dice.ninja scam, i dont know dicebitco.in scam too
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dooglus
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October 31, 2014, 03:08:14 AM |
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i,m just know dice.ninja scam, i dont know dicebitco.in scam too
Well, dice.ninja apparently claimed they were hacked, dicebitco.in claim they employed someone new then put his code live without reviewing it and it happened to contain code that cheated players because the new employee was earning a cut of the site's commission. But it appears to be generally believed that they were both just scam sites.
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October 31, 2014, 05:18:37 PM |
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I'm sure you can see why people might be sceptical of a new site that launched shortly after two big dice sites turned out to be scams, especially when it is initially using another site's code without permission.
what other site scammed besides dice.ninja? dicebitco.in, then dice.ninja Don't forget EveryDice. I think the number of people wronged in that one was more limited, but it was still a scam site.
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dooglus
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October 31, 2014, 05:31:07 PM |
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Don't forget EveryDice. I think the number of people wronged in that one was more limited, but it was still a scam site.
I heard they repaid everyone eventually. Check their thread.
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October 31, 2014, 06:11:02 PM |
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Don't forget EveryDice. I think the number of people wronged in that one was more limited, but it was still a scam site.
I heard they repaid everyone eventually. Check their thread. It appears maybe they have, except for 1Dice? I don't see any confirmation there they paid him out, and last I remember hearing was that their "main investor" who had control of the cold wallets was not going to honor his bets, because he was suspicious 1Dice was cheating. (It was awhile ago though, I don't remember the details with perfect clarity.) Maybe you can't call it a scam site, but it wasn't run honorably either. Although, from the looks of some of the posts, it seems people were paid back what they had on the site after 1Dice's winnings were subtracted, but if they never paid out to 1Dice, doesn't that mean they kept btc that doesn't belong to them? Either 1Dice won it and it should be paid out to him, or they determine he shouldn't be paid, in which case the winnings never occurred and should be returned to investors. But in no case should there be instances in which people only received a portion of their investment back less winnings that were never paid out.Quotes from ED thread: received coins left after 1DiCe1 winnings, thanks ED.
same here - about 75% lost.
I have also received what I had invested, after losing a lot to that player.
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October 31, 2014, 06:13:31 PM |
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Maybe you can't call it a scam site, but it wasn't run honorably either.
Yeah, I don't know the details, but thought maybe you hadn't heard that there was more to the story than just "OP vanishes".
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October 31, 2014, 06:17:03 PM |
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Maybe you can't call it a scam site, but it wasn't run honorably either.
Yeah, I don't know the details, but thought maybe you hadn't heard that there was more to the story than just "OP vanishes". It's good you pointed me back to the thread. I hadn't heard anything about any payments back to people, but my attention had fallen away from that thread after months of nothing important happening. That's the fate of all these gambling-turned-scam-threads over the longterm, I'm afraid.
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