First church to accept bitcoins

[Armis]

hahahahaa, I didn't bother to read past the first sentence because by thing it was clear to me you didn't write it

Of course you didn't. Whenever a theist faces an impassable logical challenge, they reveal their intellectual cowardice almost instantly.

Here, learn how to create a universe.

As for the "zero-sum game" since the subject subject of your material had absolutely nothing to do with gaming, the phrase "zero-sum game" was dead wrong.

LOL it's called game theory, look it up on the internet. You won't find it in bronze age books of fictional allegory.

Religion is on the decline, and that's not going to change. In fact it will almost certainly accelerate now that we are firmly in the information age. Sooner or later you're going to have to face reality.

hahahaha, you are going from dumb to "dumber".

I ask you to find an article that tells you who created all of the ingredients of nature, you go for a video that purports to describe how to create a universe. 
Again, that goes back to the baking of a cake, just because you know how to bake a cake doesn't mean you know how to make the ingredients (flour, milk, eggs, etc) used to make the cake.  You know the ingredients to create the universe, now find a video to show how those ingredients are made without any other earthly ingredients?

A scientist says to God, "Lord, we don't need you anymore. Science has finally
figured out a way to create life out of nothing. In other
words, we can now do what you did in the beginning."
"Oh, is that so ..." replies God.
"Well," says the scientist, "we can take dirt and
form it into the likeness of You and breathe life into it, thus
creating man."
"Well, that's interesting.  Show me."
So the scientist bends down to the earth and
starts to gather soil ... 
"Oh nooo..." interrupts God, "Get your own dirt."

The earth as we know it breaks down to six essential elemental ingredients: carbon, hydrogen, nitrogen, oxygen, phosphorus and sulfur.  So using ingredients exclusively created by man that have nothing to do with any of the mentioned items, make any of these items mentioned -- show me you can 'make your own dirt' from nothing.

As for your claim 'religion is on the decline', there's no poll on earth sizable enough to accurately reflect the worldwide view of religion.  But given that it was a Gallop reference, my guess is the survey focused on the USA, given the state of the USA (homo/marijuana/education/war/prison/removal of religious expression from much of American life)  I'd say that number is still much too high.  It's because of idiots like you why our country is going down as you believe. 

Look at all of the countries where religion is highly valued then compare them to countries where religion has little value you will see a meaningful difference in the quality of life. 

Nevertheless, the subject is theists vs atheists, remember the 90+%[?] that was about theists not about religion, nor about Christians, your ADD/ADHD is ridiculously obvious -- get help.

BTW, how's it going on the article that explains 'the start of time' not simply 'the beginning of time', or the article that explains how the invisible mind can control the physical body.   Explain in a rational, logical, reasonable, and responsible way how something with such great sophistication as a universe or human be created without a plan?

[nsimmons]

Explain in a rational, logical, reasonable, and responsible way how something with such great sophistication as a universe or human be created without a plan?

Cite peer reviewed, independently verified,  falsifiable evidence for a plan and the architect of the plan.
Also cite the plan itself.

Here is my plan,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theogony
Disprove it.

[Come-In-Behind]

hahahahaa, I didn't bother to read past the first sentence because by thing it was clear to me you didn't write it

Of course you didn't. Whenever a theist faces an impassable logical challenge, they reveal their intellectual cowardice almost instantly.

Here, learn how to create a universe.

As for the "zero-sum game" since the subject subject of your material had absolutely nothing to do with gaming, the phrase "zero-sum game" was dead wrong.

LOL it's called game theory, look it up on the internet. You won't find it in bronze age books of fictional allegory.

Religion is on the decline, and that's not going to change. In fact it will almost certainly accelerate now that we are firmly in the information age. Sooner or later you're going to have to face reality.

hahahaha, you are going from dumb to "dumber".

I ask you to find an article that tells you who created all of the ingredients of nature, you go for a video that purports to describe how to create a universe.  
Again, that goes back to the baking of a cake, just because you know how to bake a cake doesn't mean you know how to make the ingredients (flour, milk, eggs, etc) used to make the cake.  You know the ingredients to create the universe, now find a video to show how those ingredients are made without any other earthly ingredients?

A scientist says to God, "Lord, we don't need you anymore. Science has finally
figured out a way to create life out of nothing. In other
words, we can now do what you did in the beginning."
"Oh, is that so ..." replies God.
"Well," says the scientist, "we can take dirt and
form it into the likeness of You and breathe life into it, thus
creating man."
"Well, that's interesting.  Show me."
So the scientist bends down to the earth and
starts to gather soil ...  
"Oh nooo..." interrupts God, "Get your own dirt."

The earth as we know it breaks down to six essential elemental ingredients: carbon, hydrogen, nitrogen, oxygen, phosphorus and sulfur.  So using ingredients exclusively created by man that have nothing to do with any of the mentioned items, make any of these items mentioned -- show me you can 'make your own dirt' from nothing.

As for your claim 'religion is on the decline', there's no poll on earth sizable enough to accurately reflect the worldwide view of religion.  But given that it was a Gallop reference, my guess is the survey focused on the USA, given the state of the USA (homo/marijuana/education/war/prison/removal of religious expression from much of American life)  I'd say that number is still much too high.  It's because of idiots like you why our country is going down as you believe.  

Look at all of the countries where religion is highly valued then compare them to countries where religion has little value you will see a meaningful difference in the quality of life.  

Nevertheless, the subject is theists vs atheists, remember the 90+%[?] that was about theists not about religion, nor about Christians, your ADD/ADHD is ridiculously obvious -- get help.

BTW, how's it going on the article that explains 'the start of time' not simply 'the beginning of time', or the article that explains how the invisible mind can control the physical body.   Explain in a rational, logical, reasonable, and responsible way how something with such great sophistication as a universe or human be created without a plan?

Sir, if you take that route, comparing religious states to mostly non-religious states, the non-religious will win.

America, btw, is still mostly Christian, so you're statement, " given the state of the USA (homo/marijuana/education/war/prison/removal of religious expression from much of American life)" is horrendously wrong.

Homosexuality, or those(men) that are predominantly homosexual(I agree with Kinsey on the statement that mostly everyone has some degree of bisexuality), it is caused by factors beyond their control, such as hormonal changes within the womb, as well as genetics(epi-marks), based upon recent findings. With women, it's more diverse in the sense that even self identified lesbians are aroused by scenes depicting men according to a recent study done by the sexologist, Meredith Chivers. For the most part, that plays into the theory that women are more sexualiy fluid than men(have greater degrees of bisexuality). Again, those things are out of their control, and what gives you the right to deny them love?

Sorry, just wanted to explain a bit to on sexuality........

To the part about non-religious countries standard of living vs religious countries. The less strict religious democratic countries will always win(since the biggest exclusively non-religious countries are communist and would make no sense to compare them).

Compare India's extreme sexist view towards women, along with their caste system, leads to an overall depressive state of affairs. Have you not seen the countless rape and murder committed in India by men taking advantage of women because they are physically stronger and believe themselves to be more entitled? Have you not seen the deprived state of being some people live in according to India's caste system i.e Untouchables? India's entire backwards and twisted manner of being is due to it's strict religious outlook. Take that away and you'll get a much freer and overall less repressive state.

The United States may have it's problems, but thankfully over the years, it's people have begun to become more acceptable of what was previously viewed as wrong or backwards i.e (true)homosexuality. That's a luxury to have considering that many(strict,religious) countries around the world are repressing it's citizens in the sake of their religion.

Religion has been used to unify people and provide for them a moral code to live by. But as the times are changing, so is our "need" for religion. Don't let your religion/religious beliefs cloud your judgement(as it does to so many people). Remember that as the centuries have passed, mis-translations of text may have occurred along with outright lies, so it's my belief that one should know when to go by their religion's beliefs, but have their own individual judgement in matters as well.

I personally don't believe in any one religion as being the right one since they all have long histories of horrible atrocities committed in their name as well as overall, sometimes, very inhumane rules(concerning the laws of moses in the old testament, a lot of which were absolutely horrible) . I believe in "something", like a nagging thought on the back of my mind, or a cushion of air that I don't know exists, but I partly believe it does...if that makes any sense at all..

[Armis]

hahahahaahahahaaaa, you're worse than the other guy, are you his dad?   Your username explains your sexuality 'position'.

Got to put you on ignore

[Come-In-Behind]

hahahahaahahahaaaa, you're worse than the other guy, are you his dad?   Your username explains your sexuality 'position'.

Got to put you on ignore

Ah, some people(Armis) will forever dwell in their ignorance. Stupidity surely is a hard thing to change.

[nsimmons]

hahahahaahahahaaaa, you're worse than the other guy, are you his dad?   Your username explains your sexuality 'position'.

Got to put you on ignore

Here is my plan,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theogony
Disprove it.

Waiting...

[Beliathon]

hahahahaahahahaaaa, you're worse than the other guy, are you his dad?   Your username explains your sexuality 'position'.

Got to put you on ignore

Ah, some people(Armis) will forever dwell in their ignorance. Stupidity surely is a hard thing to change.

It's not his fault and it's not stupidity. This person - like most religious adults - was indoctrinated during their formative years, long before they had developed the critical thinking skills necessary to discern truth from falsehood,  long before they would ever hear the phrase scientific method".

There's a reason every religious group forces their bullshit down the throats of young children. It's the only time they can. By the time any modern teen has been educated about science, getting them to believe in a god would be as difficult as getting them to believe in santa claus.

IMHO indoctrinating children into anything is a form of child abuse, and should be treated as such by the law.

[Micky Ron]

We should refocus the discussion discourse towards increasing bitcoin's exposure among the general public.

[BitChick]

hahahahaahahahaaaa, you're worse than the other guy, are you his dad?   Your username explains your sexuality 'position'.

Got to put you on ignore

Ah, some people(Armis) will forever dwell in their ignorance. Stupidity surely is a hard thing to change.

It's not his fault and it's not stupidity. This person - like most religious adults - was indoctrinated during their formative years, long before they had developed the critical thinking skills necessary to discern truth from falsehood,  long before they would ever hear the phrase scientific method".

There's a reason every religious group forces their bullshit down the throats of young children. It's the only time they can. By the time any modern teen has been educated about science, getting them to believe in a god would be as difficult as getting them to believe in santa claus.

IMHO indoctrinating children into anything is a form of child abuse, and should be treated as such by the law.

The indoctrination by the "scientific community" is more rampant in the US than any other religion at this point.

But I am off topic.  Sorry.  Please go to the "off topic" section for more discussion.

[Armis]

hahahahaahahahaaaa, you're worse than the other guy, are you his dad?   Your username explains your sexuality 'position'.

Got to put you on ignore

Ah, some people(Armis) will forever dwell in their ignorance. Stupidity surely is a hard thing to change.

It's not his fault and it's not stupidity. This person - like most religious adults - was indoctrinated during their formative years, long before they had developed the critical thinking skills necessary to discern truth from falsehood,  long before they would ever hear the phrase scientific method".

There's a reason every religious group forces their bullshit down the throats of young children. It's the only time they can. By the time any modern teen has been educated about science, getting them to believe in a god would be as difficult as getting them to believe in santa claus.

IMHO indoctrinating children into anything is a form of child abuse, and should be treated as such by the law.

God issued mankind 'conscience' as well as a 'conscious', between the two mankind inherently has a sense of good and bad, as well as right and wrong -- morality.
Goodness, what is good,  and righteousness, what is right is born from mankind's inherent moral foundation.   It is on that foundation all of mankind's laws were
conceived.

Here is how you know smoking is naturally not good, and also naturally the wrong thing for humans to do:
- smoking irritates your eyes, that is one of your senses telling you to move away from the smoke,
- smoking taste nasty (it becomes an acquired taste to abused taste buds), a second way your body is telling you this is not good,
- smoking irritate your nose, deadens your nasal receptors, and weakens your sense of smell, a 3rd way your body says stop,
- smoking irritates your lungs, resulting in coughing, a 4 way your body is tell you this action is wrong for it.
all of the above smoking reactions are AUTOMATIC responses, they were installed with mankind's initial programming  
as an early warning system to move away from potential harm or danger.

Long before cancer comes into the picture your physical body told your invisible mind that smoking was not good and likely wrong,
it was then for the mind to make an executive decision.   If you was in a burning building rescuing your family it would make sense
to override your body's automatic responses, but that was not the case.   There is no naturally good reason for smoking.  Since it harms
the body in multiple ways it should be considered wrong or bad activity.  

Indoctrination (aka brainwashing) is used to encourage, train, induce, coerce, or otherwise force someone to do, or not do, something that s/he would otherwise be expected to do, or not do, naturally.  If an action is naturally good, like eating food you may need to train someone to eat properly, that would not be indoctrination;  however to train a carnivore (like all humans) not to eat meat would take indoctrination, even though it is for the betterment of the person.  Not all indoctrination is wrong, however any indoctrination that results in the degrade of the overall quality of life of the community is not good for the community.

Indoctrination is the only way a society of any size would accept notions that are inherently bad or have no good natural purpose like homosexuality.  

Homosexuality has no good natural purpose.  Heterosexuality has an inherently good natural purpose -- to perpetuate the species.  

Indoctrination is the only way a society of any size would accept the notion of abortion as a 'choice'.  They tell you that it is 'only tissue',
they call it an embryo, as if it is not human at that point.   Two humans that naturally conceive can ONLY produce another human, as such
the "embryo" is really a 'human embryo'  not a chicken embryo, or a cow embryo, or a dog embryo.  

Indoctrination is the only way a society of any size would accept the notion that the "rule of law" trumps truth, that the ruling of one district judge
can override the known wishes of the tens of millions of people in that district, and that a national referendum on all of the issues of major national concern is not
the most sensible way to decide major national issues.  

Indoctrination is the only way a society of any size would issue foreign aid to nations while many of its states are in various states of financial crisis.

Indoctrination is the only way a society of any size that has such a poor overall public education system not give serious consideration to the
education sectors within the country that have an exceptionally long history of educational excellence.  

  
All responsible religions teach you to 'train up a child in the way he should go', a wise parent will teach their children to know good and bad, right and wrong,
without them necessarily needing to experience it all.  

The deeper you delve into the various levels of righteous consciousness the closer you will get to God.  If 'the plan' and 'the ingredients' are before a time science has discovered on one side and infinity is beyond a time can appreciate on the other side,  consciousness would represent that major hole in the middle that we live with every day that science has no true clue about.   There are many levels of consciousness from embryonic consciousness to fetal consciousness to infant awareness, to normal brain adult awareness,  to the daydream, to the groggy, to the light sleep, to the deep sleep, to the about to wake, to the boxing knockout, to the faint, to the coma, to the vegetative state, to the clinically brain dead, and so on ...

You don't know the beginning, the end, or the big doughnut hole in the middle, because you are on the merry-go-round called modern science.  

[Beliathon]

The indoctrination by the "scientific community".

Indoctrination is the process of inculcating ideas, attitudes, cognitive strategies or a professional methodology.

It is distinguished from education by the fact that the indoctrinated person is expected not to question or critically examine the doctrine they have learned.

Science can only educate, never indoctrinate. Unlike religion, critical examination, observation, deduction, peer review, and doubt are the foundations of the scientific method:



Witness, ye internet friends, the hatred and ignorance that grows from superstition:

Homosexuality has no good natural purpose.  Heterosexuality has an inherently good natural purpose -- to perpetuate the species.

You disgust me. It's one thing to have imaginary friends as an adult. Hell, you can even go telling other adults this embarrassing, cringe-worthy thing about yourself. I don't care! But when you start spreading blind hatred, you're fucking repugnant. To do it from behind a computer makes you a repugnant, hateful coward.

I dare you to bring your ignorant, backwater, hateful ass to New York City and say this shit outloud. See what happens. Spoiler: You'll get your ass kicked, and you'll deserve it. If there is a creator, you are a disgrace to all creation.

[cr4sh0verride]

hahahahaahahahaaaa, you're worse than the other guy, are you his dad?   Your username explains your sexuality 'position'.

Got to put you on ignore

Ah, some people(Armis) will forever dwell in their ignorance. Stupidity surely is a hard thing to change.

It's not his fault and it's not stupidity. This person - like most religious adults - was indoctrinated during their formative years, long before they had developed the critical thinking skills necessary to discern truth from falsehood,  long before they would ever hear the phrase scientific method".

There's a reason every religious group forces their bullshit down the throats of young children. It's the only time they can. By the time any modern teen has been educated about science, getting them to believe in a god would be as difficult as getting them to believe in santa claus.

IMHO indoctrinating children into anything is a form of child abuse, and should be treated as such by the law.

What's funny is that with him and a lot of other people with his beliefs that in most other situations of their lives they apply the critical reasoning necessary to dismiss claims that are unfounded and yet fail to apply it to their religious beliefs.

I think the biggest difference between him and I will be that I will never claim an absolute and I'm happy to say that I'm wrong
Some people just don't want to give up their favourite play toys.. It's useless to argue with someone not willing to admit they are wrong

Best to just sit back and have a chuckle.. a lot of the rhetoric is just recycled over and over anyway

[BitChick]

Wow Beliathon.  That is quite a response.  

My point in the "brainwashing" was more along the lines of almost all children's books today in regards to the earth, dinosaurs, evolution begin with "Millions of years ago" or "Billions of years ago."  This is taught as a fact and now everyone just blindly believes it to be a fact.  I am the one that is seen as crazy because I just don't go along with the "brainwashing" that is taking place.  Is the "millions of years" time frame a proven fact or has everyone just been brainwashed to believe it is a fact? Scientists keep changing the timeline all of the time anyways so it is a huge problem.

As for homosexuality(since that is obviously a hot button for you) our bodies were designed sexually to be male and female (with the rare exception of a mutation in which someone is born with both parts of course)  If males could reproduce having sex with other males, or females with females, I would have to agree that scientifically homosexuality is normal and that anyone that disagrees with this is being brainwashed to believe that it is wrong, but that isn't the case.  Sure, there is deviance from the norm, but it is deviant.  It is not how we were designed sexually, and we were designed.  The reproductive system in the human body is an amazing and highly designed system that just could not have evolved by chance.  The fact that we are being brainwashed into believing everything happened by random chance is the craziest thing of all and makes no logical sense whatsoever.  

All this said, I am not really worried if you do not agree with me on this.  Saddened of course because I know without a doubt what the truth is.  The ones that are really brainwashed will someday have their eyes opened when the judgement day comes.    Truth is truth, regardless of if I believe it, or anyone believes it.  But we live in a world that does not even believe in absolute truth anymore.  Everything is relative and based on what feels good to us. It is now commonly accepted to determine what is right and wrong based solely on feelings and our cultural norms.  This is rooted in evolutionary theory as well as atheism with no God or higher authority to be accountable to.  But that is all part of the brainwashing too.

[Come-In-Behind]

Wow Belathon.  That is quite a response.  

My point in the "brainwashing" was more along the lines of almost all children's books today in regards to the earth, dinosaurs, evolution begin with "Millions of years ago" or "Billions of years ago."  This is taught as a fact and now everyone just blindly believes it to be a fact.  I am the one that is seen as crazy because I just don't go along with the "brainwashing" that is taking place.  Is the "millions of years" time frame a proven fact or has everyone just been brainwashed to believe it is a fact? Scientists keep changing the timeline all of the time anyways so it is a huge problem.

As for homosexuality(since that is obviously a hot button for you) our bodies were designed sexually to be male and female (with the rare exception of a mutation in which someone is born with both parts of course)  If males could reproduce having sex with other males, or females with females, I would have to agree that scientifically homosexuality is normal and that anyone that disagrees with this is being brainwashed to believe that it is wrong, but that isn't the case.  Sure, there is deviance from the norm, but it is deviant.  It is not how we were designed sexually, and we were designed.  The reproductive system in the human body is an amazing and highly designed system that just could not have evolved by chance.  The fact that we are being brainwashed into believing everything happened by random chance is the craziest thing of all and makes no logical sense whatsoever.  

All this said, I am not really worried if no one agrees with me on this.  Saddened of course because I know without a doubt what the truth is.  The ones that are really brainwashed will someday have their eyes opened when the judgement day comes.  Hopefully it isn't too late for them though.  

 "If males could reproduce having sex with other males, or females with females, I would have to agree that scientifically homosexuality is normal and that anyone that disagrees with this is being brainwashed to believe that it is wrong, but that isn't the case.  Sure, there is deviance from the norm, but it is deviant."

What's been shown, especially in the case of epi-marks, is that the chance of a male becoming homosexual increases as the mother has more kids. So if a mother has had 8 male children, the chance of the 9th one being gay is far higher than of the 1st one being gay. This could be a way to slow down/control population growth. It technically is a deviant from the norm, but it is still natural, kind of like if most people in one town had brown hair, and someone was born with yellow hair, that doesn't make them crazy, they just have a different hair color than most people in the town. Female sexuality however, is much more complicated presumably according to Dr Meredith Chivers work. Women have the capacity to be attracted to things that are sensual. So unlike males, who tend to be a bit rigid in their arousal patterns(could be due to cultural influences), women can be aroused by things that are overall "appealing" such as sexual intercourse if even between animals. They were even aroused by bonobo apes mating: http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/25/magazine/25desire-t.html?pagewanted=1&_r=3&sq=bonobos%20sex%20study%20blood%20flow&st=cse&scp=1. I know some people reading this will think, "Well if they're attracted to sensual things, then why are most of them hetero-romantic/heterosexual?(predominantly attracted to males sexually and romantically)". Well, evolution gave males features that would tip the scale in favor of them as being the foremost sexual/romantic partners of women, such as women being aroused by the mere pheromones a male produces, along with the overall structure of the male body, such as strong broad shoulders, tall, etc(especially during menstruation), and many more.

So in actuality, homosexuality is not something unnatural, and not something to be scared of if you're heterosexual and think," Oh the world is going to end because everyone will "turn" gay". That's not the case, as the majority of women and men are predominantly heterosexual with both sexes having specific attributes that appeal to the other, like two pieces to the puzzle. I go by the quote that, " Men drive the world, Women direct it", in the sense that men are usually more headstrong, while women are usually more "careful" so to speak(search up brain imaging of men vs women). Without men, the world will become stagnant and there would be no progression, without women the world will be less peaceful overall.

If you're talking about timeframes, 1billion years>1million years>100,000years>present day, etc. Yes, I can safely say that it's proven that the earth is a lot older than the 6,000 or so years as originally thought according to the Genesis chapter of the Old Testament(Which is also regarded by some scholars are symbolic and not to be taken literally).

You seem to take every portion of your religious text(Quran, Torah, Bible), literally. Try thinking that some passages in those holy books are not to be taken literally. I must say, that I wholeheartedly agree with only 1 section of the bible, which is the New Testament. While I don't really believe in the religious part, I believe in Christ's teachings, they are things that can apply to any religions and all peoples; an overall message of love.

[Armis]

Wow Beliathon.  That is quite a response.  

My point in the "brainwashing" was more along the lines of almost all children's books today in regards to the earth, dinosaurs, evolution begin with "Millions of years ago" or "Billions of years ago."  This is taught as a fact and now everyone just blindly believes it to be a fact.  I am the one that is seen as crazy because I just don't go along with the "brainwashing" that is taking place.  Is the "millions of years" time frame a proven fact or has everyone just been brainwashed to believe it is a fact? Scientists keep changing the timeline all of the time anyways so it is a huge problem.

As for homosexuality(since that is obviously a hot button for you) our bodies were designed sexually to be male and female (with the rare exception of a mutation in which someone is born with both parts of course)  If males could reproduce having sex with other males, or females with females, I would have to agree that scientifically homosexuality is normal and that anyone that disagrees with this is being brainwashed to believe that it is wrong, but that isn't the case.  Sure, there is deviance from the norm, but it is deviant.  It is not how we were designed sexually, and we were designed.  The reproductive system in the human body is an amazing and highly designed system that just could not have evolved by chance.  The fact that we are being brainwashed into believing everything happened by random chance is the craziest thing of all and makes no logical sense whatsoever.  

All this said, I am not really worried if you do not agree with me on this.  Saddened of course because I know without a doubt what the truth is.  The ones that are really brainwashed will someday have their eyes opened when the judgement day comes.    Truth is truth, regardless of if I believe it, or anyone believes it.  But we live in a world that does not even believe in absolute truth anymore.  Everything is relative and based on what feels good to us. It is now commonly accepted to determine what is right and wrong based solely on feelings and our cultural norms.  This is rooted in evolutionary theory as well as atheism with no God or higher authority to be accountable to.  But that is all part of the brainwashing too.

Don't mind him, only a juvenile would go overboard posting pics in such a fashion.  Apparently he has failed to take his ADHD meds again.

The proper definition of homophobia linguistically is 'the fear of man'.  Most animals are homophobic, in that they are afraid of humans; notice most animals will run from man when they see us -- that is homophobia.   

I was at a grocery store one day, the cashier had a huge fat lip that obviously receive multiple stitches, clearly he should not have gone into work but he did.  I asked him how it  happened he told me that his boyfriend did it.  The highest incidence of abuse on homos are what they do to one another, followed by what they do to themselves.   What others do to them is a long distance third.

Ask any emergency room doctor to tell you stories of how many of them grossly injury themselves in an attempt to have "pleasure".   
Ask the police officers and social workers about the number of times they have encountered activities that minimally could be defined as
self-mutilation but could easily go as high as self-torture. Beliathon would have us believe that that is normal simply because it isn't illegal.

Without a moral compass you will get lost.   Notice how Beliathon will switch to any other topic he could in an effort to remove himself from
addressing the root issues at hand -- the existence of God.

[Come-In-Behind]

Wow Beliathon.  That is quite a response.  

My point in the "brainwashing" was more along the lines of almost all children's books today in regards to the earth, dinosaurs, evolution begin with "Millions of years ago" or "Billions of years ago."  This is taught as a fact and now everyone just blindly believes it to be a fact.  I am the one that is seen as crazy because I just don't go along with the "brainwashing" that is taking place.  Is the "millions of years" time frame a proven fact or has everyone just been brainwashed to believe it is a fact? Scientists keep changing the timeline all of the time anyways so it is a huge problem.

As for homosexuality(since that is obviously a hot button for you) our bodies were designed sexually to be male and female (with the rare exception of a mutation in which someone is born with both parts of course)  If males could reproduce having sex with other males, or females with females, I would have to agree that scientifically homosexuality is normal and that anyone that disagrees with this is being brainwashed to believe that it is wrong, but that isn't the case.  Sure, there is deviance from the norm, but it is deviant.  It is not how we were designed sexually, and we were designed.  The reproductive system in the human body is an amazing and highly designed system that just could not have evolved by chance.  The fact that we are being brainwashed into believing everything happened by random chance is the craziest thing of all and makes no logical sense whatsoever.  

All this said, I am not really worried if you do not agree with me on this.  Saddened of course because I know without a doubt what the truth is.  The ones that are really brainwashed will someday have their eyes opened when the judgement day comes.    Truth is truth, regardless of if I believe it, or anyone believes it.  But we live in a world that does not even believe in absolute truth anymore.  Everything is relative and based on what feels good to us. It is now commonly accepted to determine what is right and wrong based solely on feelings and our cultural norms.  This is rooted in evolutionary theory as well as atheism with no God or higher authority to be accountable to.  But that is all part of the brainwashing too.

Don't mind him, only a juvenile would go overboard posting pics in such a fashion.  Apparently he has failed to take his ADHD meds again.

The proper definition of homophobia linguistically is 'the fear of man'.  Most animals are homophobic, in that they are afraid of humans; notice most animals will run from man when they see us -- that is homophobia.    

I was at a grocery store one day, the cashier had a huge fat lip that obviously receive multiple stitches, clearly he should not have gone into work but he did.  I asked him how it  happened he told me that his boyfriend did it.  The highest incidence of abuse on homos are what they do to one another, followed by what they do to themselves.   What others do to them is a long distance third.

Ask any emergency room doctor to tell you stories of how many of them grossly injury themselves in an attempt to have "pleasure".  
Ask the police officers and social workers about the number of times they have encountered activities that minimally could be defined as
self-mutilation but could easily go as high as self-torture. Beliathon would have us believe that that is normal simply because it isn't illegal.

Without a moral compass you will get lost.   Notice how Beliathon will switch to any other topic he could in an effort to remove himself from
addressing the root issues at hand -- the existence of God.

You've been wrong on every single point you've made.

Homophobic means - irrational fear of, aversion to, or discrimination against homosexuality or homosexuals. Also some(there are many species of animals that do not, especially when they haven't encountered humans often i.e animals in exclusive parts of the world) animals fearing man is a learnt behavior, animals do not automatically fear humans, Discovery Channel and studies done on animals(Bears for ex.) should clarify this for you.

You meeting one homosexual or bisexual person who's been involved with abuse by their partner doesn't justify you claiming that all of them are violent. In fact, it's quite the opposite. Around 1 in 5 women in the Unites States report that they have been sexually assaulted. 1 in 5. So based upon that evidence, does that give me the right to say that all men are violent ? No, so then you definitely cannot claim that all homosexual men are violent given your 1 encounter.

Morality is innate. Meaning it's not learnt usually, it's basically an aversion to causing pain, physical or mental to another being. Of course this is just a general view, many different cultures have their own view on what's right and wrong, etc.

[Beliathon]

... evolution begin with "Millions of years ago" or "Billions of years ago."  This is taught as a fact and now everyone just blindly believes it to be a fact.  I am the one that is seen as crazy because I just don't go along with the "brainwashing" hard science that is taking place.  Is the "millions of years" time frame a proven fact or has everyone just been brainwashed to believe it is a fact?

Fixed that for you. Earth is 4.54 +/- 1% billion years old. This is a proven fact by radiometric dating. It's also common knowledge for any sane person, including every respectable scientist. Sorry, you don't get to discount hard science because it offends your religious view.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_of_the_Earth
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Young_Earth_creationism

Claiming, in 2014, that the Earth is younger than 4.5 billion years old, is just as ridiculous as claiming the Earth is flat or claiming Sol revolves around Earth. It's flatly moronic, and you should stop doing it immediately.

Are there any other great mysteries you'd like me to google for you? Spoiler:  You will (and deserve to be) mocked and derided until you stop disrespecting hard science.

[BitChick]

... evolution begin with "Millions of years ago" or "Billions of years ago."  This is taught as a fact and now everyone just blindly believes it to be a fact.  I am the one that is seen as crazy because I just don't go along with the "brainwashing" hard science that is taking place.  Is the "millions of years" time frame a proven fact or has everyone just been brainwashed to believe it is a fact?

Fixed that for you. Earth is 4.54 +/- 1% billion years old. This is a proven fact by radiometric dating. It's also common knowledge for any sane person, including every respectable scientist. Sorry, you don't get to discount hard science because it offends your religious view.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_of_the_Earth
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Young_Earth_creationism

Claiming, in 2014, that the Earth is younger than 4.5 billion years old, is just as ridiculous as claiming the Earth is flat or claiming Sol revolves around Earth. It's flatly moronic, and you should stop doing it immediately.

Are there any other great mysteries you'd like me to google for you? Spoiler:  You will (and deserve to be) mocked and derided until you stop disrespecting hard science.

I am by no means an expert in geology but there are reasons why I have come to question the dates that have been reported as "fact."  Isn't good science at least questioning these things?

The latest estimates suggest a date of 4.57 billion years. But this figure wasn’t established by radiometric dating of the earth itself. Most people are not aware of this. The truth is that the age of the earth has been established by dating meteorites, which are not earth rocks. They have come from somewhere else in the solar system, and their source is assumed to have formed at the same time as the earth. Therefore, the age they supply is an interpretation based on that assumption and is emphatically not “hard science.” How do we know for sure that the meteorites came from another body in the solar system that was formed at the same time as the earth? That’s an assumption, not “hard science.”

Scientists use radiometric dating but radiocarbon dating is more accurate. However, they do not want to use radiocarbon dating, why?  The best laboratories in the world, using the best equipment under the cleanest conditions over the last three decades, have been routinely finding measurable radiocarbon in coal, oil, natural gas, limestone, fossil bones, fossil shells, and even diamonds! If these were all millions of years old, then there should be no radiocarbon left in them. The fact is that all these materials yield radiocarbon dates of only thousands of years. And all of this is documented in scientific literature, such as in the journal Radiocarbon

Also, the amount of helium on the earth shows that the earth cannot be millions of years old.  There would be no helium left on earth.

These are just a few things that make me question the millions of years assumptions.

Some of the radiometric information I used is found here: https://answersingenesis.org/geology/radiometric-dating/radiometric-dating-and-proof/

[Beliathon]

Some of the radiometric information I used is found here: https://answersingenesis.org/geology/radiometric-dating/radiometric-dating-and-proof/

If you want to learn about Christianity, go ask a priest.

If you want to learn about Demons, go watch Buffy the Vampire Slayer.

If you want to learn about Earth, you ask a fucking geologist for fuck's sake.

This is not demon-surgery, goddammit. Stop wasting my time with this absurd creationist horseshit.

THIS IS YOU!

[serje]

Please stop!
We all know this is true!