[WTS] 5oz .999 Silver NastyFans Minted Seats

[MCHouston]

I plan to send my coins off to PCGS for grading soon as they arrive.

I was under the impression that PCGS doesn't grade these types of coins.

That I am not sure as this would be my first crypto coin submission.  I will let you know what is the outcome.

Thanks,
MC

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[TookDk]

I plan to send my coins off to PCGS for grading soon as they arrive.

I was under the impression that PCGS doesn't grade these types of coins.

I believe your impression is correct.

What types of coins does PCGS grade?
PCGS grades most U.S. coinage, Mint Errors, Colonials, Fractional Gold, Patterns, Territorials, and World coins from 1600 to present.
 
Does PCGS grade tokens and medals?
PCGS will grade medals or tokens that were officially minted by the U.S. Mint and are capable of being encapsulated in a PCGS holder.

http://www.pcgs.com/faq/

[OgNasty]

If anyone is interested, for $50 I will have them ANACS graded for you before shipping out.  PM me if that's something you want to participate in.

[TheAnalogKid]

I plan to send my coins off to PCGS for grading soon as they arrive.

I was under the impression that PCGS doesn't grade these types of coins.

Agreed.  I think PCGS might grade them, but I don't think they'd really know much about them.  They currently do not list Bitcoin-related items on their "tokens and metals" page, which is what these would be classified under - http://www.pcgs.com/tokensandmedals/

ANACS would be the more appropriate choice for getting these done, just like all the other ones out there (Cas, Lealana, etc).  They seem to have their stuff together, and they supposedly are even working on proper population reports for these, which would be extremely interesting to see.

However, looking through their pages, it seems their limit for tokens is 40.6mm, which I think this round is larger than, correct?  I do believe they certify the US hockey pucks as well, so they should have holders that can handle them.

The good news is that if you're going to do the grading, you wouldn't have to wait for the capsules...

If you want any help with this let me know, up to and including doing any submissions.

[OgNasty]

I plan to send my coins off to PCGS for grading soon as they arrive.

I was under the impression that PCGS doesn't grade these types of coins.

Agreed.  I think PCGS might grade them, but I don't think they'd really know much about them.  They currently do not list Bitcoin-related items on their "tokens and metals" page, which is what these would be classified under - http://www.pcgs.com/tokensandmedals/

ANACS would be the more appropriate choice for getting these done, just like all the other ones out there (Cas, Lealana, etc).  They seem to have their stuff together, and they supposedly are even working on proper population reports for these, which would be extremely interesting to see.

However, looking through their pages, it seems their limit for tokens is 40.6mm, which I think this round is larger than, correct?  I do believe they certify the US hockey pucks as well, so they should have holders that can handle them.

The good news is that if you're going to do the grading, you wouldn't have to wait for the capsules...

If you want any help with this let me know, up to and including doing any submissions.

Interesting about their limit.  These tokens are 63.5mm, so I will need to discuss this with ANACS.  I have been in communication with them previously to give them information on the 1oz tokens, so I will reach out to my contact to make sure everything is good with the 5oz version.

A good point about not having to wait for the capsules.  I don't have flips, so I would most likely wrap them well in foam and secure them in plastic bags.  I'll go ahead and let this idea float around for a while, and if anyone is interested, I will submit some for grading next Monday.

I received a response from the mint saying that they had run out of stock on the capsules and have ordered more.  Don't get me started on why they didn't have them on hand since I paid for them more than 3 months ago...  In any event, they have at least acknowledged the oversight and assured that they have been ordered, so that is something...

[owlcatz]

If anyone is interested, for $50 I will have them ANACS graded for you before shipping out.  PM me if that's something you want to participate in.

I'm interested, however I'm a noob when it comes to this physical coin stuff, but trying to learn fast - What exactly do I get out of that, I mean I understand it's graded but do they put some sticker on it and give me some paper or something? (Sorry, can't google around right now, sorta busy)!  

Also, roughly how much more time will be involved in getting it shipped in the end? Not that I can't wait longer for it, just curious if you have any idea.

Thanks as always!

[OgNasty]

If anyone is interested, for $50 I will have them ANACS graded for you before shipping out.  PM me if that's something you want to participate in.

I'm interested, however I'm a noob when it comes to this physical coin stuff, but trying to learn fast - What exactly do I get out of that, I mean I understand it's graded but do they put some sticker on it and give me some paper or something? (Sorry, can't google around right now, sorta busy)!  

Also, roughly how much more time will be involved in getting it shipped in the end? Not that I can't wait longer for it, just curious if you have any idea.

Thanks as always!

I've sent a couple coins to ANACS.  In my experience, it takes about 2 weeks to get them back.  Considering I could send them off Monday (or sooner), and it could be 2 weeks before the capsules come anyway for all we know, time shouldn't be a big concern.  As far as what you get out of it, you just get it graded and it will come in an ANACS slab instead of a regular airtite.  It doesn't add any extra protection, but if you got an amazing grade it might increase it's value. 

[monkeynuts]

The ANACS images are up for the 1 seat Nasty coins. The description I have used on the submission form is "NASTY FANS ONE SEAT"

Coin 4908292




Coin 4908293




ANACS state that they have coin size limits
http://www.anacs.com/contentPages/FAQSubmitting.aspx#jump7

"Currently, ANACS Does not grade & encapsulate the following:
Coins larger than 41mm (diameter) or thicker than 4.0mm. "

[TookDk]

The ANACS images are up for the 1 seat Nasty coins. The description I have used on the submission form is "NASTY FANS ONE SEAT"

Coin 4908292
http://anacs.s3.amazonaws.com/4908292-O.jpg
http://anacs.s3.amazonaws.com/4908292-R.jpg

Coin 4908293
http://anacs.s3.amazonaws.com/4908293-O.jpg
http://anacs.s3.amazonaws.com/4908293-R.jpg

ANACS state that they have coin size limits
http://www.anacs.com/contentPages/FAQSubmitting.aspx#jump7

"Currently, ANACS Does not grade & encapsulate the following:
Coins larger than 41mm (diameter) or thicker than 4.0mm. "

WOW 

[ibminer]

If anyone is interested, for $50 I will have them ANACS graded for you before shipping out.  PM me if that's something you want to participate in.

It doesn't appear ANACS grades this size of a coin, but if you confirm that they will grade it, I'd be interested.
(Sorry for not PMing, based on prior experience I'd rather keep communications public at this point!  )

[TheAnalogKid]

If anyone is interested, for $50 I will have them ANACS graded for you before shipping out.  PM me if that's something you want to participate in.

It doesn't appear ANACS grades this size of a coin, but if you confirm that they will grade it, I'd be interested.
(Sorry for not PMing, based on prior experience I'd rather keep communications public at this point!  )

Reading their info says probably not.  But if they grade the U.S. 5oz coins as shown in the pic above, they should.  These are the same size so the precedent does exist.  Let's wait and see with crossed fingers.

[OgNasty]

If anyone is interested, for $50 I will have them ANACS graded for you before shipping out.  PM me if that's something you want to participate in.

It doesn't appear ANACS grades this size of a coin, but if you confirm that they will grade it, I'd be interested.
(Sorry for not PMing, based on prior experience I'd rather keep communications public at this point!  )

Reading their info says probably not.  But if they grade the U.S. 5oz coins as shown in the pic above, they should.  These are the same size so the precedent does exist.  Let's wait and see with crossed fingers.

While they don't grade 5oz "coins" it does appear they grade "tokens" which is what this coin would be considered.  I've emailed them for clarity, but I think I'll go ahead and give them a call this morning to get an official answer.  I think my 1NASTY1FAN....addressed coin deserves a grading. 

[OgNasty]

Bad news...  ANACS will not grade these coins because they are too thick for their holders.  They can only grade 5oz coins that are 3" in size, and this one is 2.5" which makes it thicker than their case can hold.  Very disappointing... 

So much for that idea.  Anything else I can do to whip you into a frenzy while we wait for the plastic capsules to arrive?

[ibminer]

They can only grade 5oz coins that are 3" in size, and this one is 2.5" which makes it thicker than their case can hold.

I'm assuming typo?      Last time I checked, 2.5" fits inside of 3"?

[OgNasty]

They can only grade 5oz coins that are 3" in size, and this one is 2.5" which makes it thicker than their case can hold.

I'm assuming typo?      Last time I checked, 2.5" fits inside of 3"?

Nope, no typo.  The smaller diameter makes it a thicker coin.  Too thick for their cases. 

[ibminer]

They can only grade 5oz coins that are 3" in size, and this one is 2.5" which makes it thicker than their case can hold.

I'm assuming typo?     Last time I checked, 2.5" fits inside of 3"?

Nope, no typo.  The smaller diameter makes it a thicker coin.  Too thick for their cases.  

Ah got ya, I didn't realize the diameter directly corresponds to the thickness of the coin, thanks for the clarification! 

EDIT: Seems like US Minted coins go up in thickness as the diameter increases?... I guess I'm showing my noob nature to physical coins again.

[TheAnalogKid]

They can only grade 5oz coins that are 3" in size, and this one is 2.5" which makes it thicker than their case can hold.

I'm assuming typo?     Last time I checked, 2.5" fits inside of 3"?

Nope, no typo.  The smaller diameter makes it a thicker coin.  Too thick for their cases.  

Ah got ya, I didn't realize the diameter directly corresponds to the thickness of the coin, thanks for the clarification! 

EDIT: Seems like US Minted coins go up in thickness as the diameter increases?... I guess I'm showing my noob nature to physical coins again.

It's all about volume.  Think about play-doh.  If you put a ball of it in your hand and then start compressing it, it will flatten out but become wider the thinner it gets, as the material isn't being removed, just re-shaped.  No difference when a coin is pressed, just you're dealing with metal instead.

[ibminer]

They can only grade 5oz coins that are 3" in size, and this one is 2.5" which makes it thicker than their case can hold.

I'm assuming typo?     Last time I checked, 2.5" fits inside of 3"?

Nope, no typo.  The smaller diameter makes it a thicker coin.  Too thick for their cases.  

Ah got ya, I didn't realize the diameter directly corresponds to the thickness of the coin, thanks for the clarification!  

EDIT: Seems like US Minted coins go up in thickness as the diameter increases?... I guess I'm showing my noob nature to physical coins again.

It's all about volume.  Think about play-doh.  If you put a ball of it in your hand and then start compressing it, it will flatten out but become wider the thinner it gets, as the material isn't being removed, just re-shaped.  No difference when a coin is pressed, just you're dealing with metal instead.

Thanks for the explanation, I wasn't thinking in terms of 5oz of material... seems so obvious now  
I thought there was some general rule that the smaller diameter will always increase the thickness of the coin, which seemed backwards... but makes sense when you are dealing with a specific amount of material. 

[OgNasty]

The airtites arrived today!  I've already boxed up a couple orders to ship, and will try to get the rest of the orders ready to go ASAP so I can ship them all out THIS WEEK!  The price per coin is now $450.

[owlcatz]

The airtites arrived today!  I've already boxed up a couple orders to ship, and will try to get the rest of the orders ready to go ASAP so I can ship them all out THIS WEEK!  The price per coin is now $450.

Awesome news thanks!

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