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July 05, 2018, 01:06:35 PM
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Ppl are moving from big coins like ethereum, zcash, bitcoin gold, monero to the smaller altcoins. Here are some yiimp clones and the number of workers (rigs)

zpool,ca: 18114
bsod.pw: 11696
zergpool.com: 4450
ahashpool.com: 3341   
blockmaster.com: 2672
yiimp.eu: 2599
blazepool.com: 1474
HashRefinery.com: 401

44 747 rigs = 200 000 ++ gpu's?

Imagine what would happen if I release a 20% faster PHI2 mod for free and this mod was added into one of the popular 1 click profit switching software. the 200k gpu's will destroy the profit in a couple of days. Bether to sell to one farm with 5-20 000 gpu's for x btc and let the farm harvest all the profit quietly for months/years.

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July 05, 2018, 05:12:43 PM
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Imagine what would happen if I release a 20% faster PHI2 mod for free and this mod was added into one of the popular 1 click profit switching software. the 200k gpu's will destroy the profit in a couple of days. Bether to sell to one farm with 5-20 000 gpu's for x btc and let the farm harvest all the profit quietly for months/years.
when you already get to us and release a free version with embedded fee - you're released, and we'll see how the coin comes down with your miner Wink -  the wonder of all at last and do not build your guesswork Smiley
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July 05, 2018, 05:35:30 PM
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Phi2 sp-mod #3 released to the donators

-Fixed a bug when mining in low difficulty (cpu validation errors, and lower reported hashrate to the console/pool)
-Less rejected shares. (job id not found)
-Sligthly faster kernel +30khash on the 1080ti

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July 05, 2018, 10:38:24 PM
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2000 miners and 2% or one miner with 2000 rigs and 2%.

This is a stupid comparison because you'd STILL get that 2000 rigs one miner whether it was with the .05btc or not. Again, you need to go to business school, you're understanding of marketing and business finance is pretty poor.
Why do you care about his business? Don't count another's money.


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July 05, 2018, 10:45:34 PM
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Haven't seen a single screenshot showing 7.5mh/s at 70% tdp.. And why do you call it a donation when you're forcing people to pay? And saying you don't release it for free because you're doing it for the community is a joke.. You put coins that are currently the most profitable and post them on this thread which instantly kills the profitability. It's like everything you say and do is fkn retarded..

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July 06, 2018, 03:42:06 AM
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Haven't seen a single screenshot showing 7.5mh/s at 70% tdp.. And why do you call it a donation when you're forcing people to pay? And saying you don't release it for free because you're doing it for the community is a joke.. You put coins that are currently the most profitable and post them on this thread which instantly kills the profitability. It's like everything you say and do is fkn retarded..

I haven't seen him mention a single coin in here that has been extraordinarily profitable or I haven't already known about and was already milked out.

So do you know why public developers are considered as people helping the community even while you pay for their work? It's because without them everything seeps to private miners that you never hear about. Because you're in this thread bitching and groveling for hand outs we can assume that you aren't a big farm and because things are tight right now you are feeling the burn, that also means you would never be able to afford a private developer or even get their attention.

Lets assume SP releases his work for free, he no longer gets paid, what sort of incentive do you think he has to continue developing mods (whether or not you choose to buy them)? Why don't you give all your revenue to SP out of the goodness of your heart which you feel as though he should be doing for you. No? Okay...

I'm a big fan of listening to peoples actions and not words, especially when it comes to crypto.

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July 06, 2018, 04:10:31 AM
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40Mhs on 1080ti
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July 06, 2018, 01:25:50 PM
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40Mhs on 1080ti
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July 06, 2018, 01:30:34 PM
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phi sp-mod #3 does 41.65MHASH on the 1080ti.

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July 06, 2018, 01:31:42 PM
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phi2 sp-mod #2 actual results.... $3.5 in 24hours with 1 1080ti.

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you won't be earning $2.75 per Ti, more like $1.25

live from zpool.ca (1 1080ti sp-mod @7.5MHASH 24hours profit):

0.0672btc /GHASH

0.0672 * 0.007.5 = 0,000504BTC = $3.5



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July 06, 2018, 01:39:26 PM
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phi2 sp-mod #3

7.3 MHASH 50% tdp... (ASUS 1080ti). Wall power readings at around  130Watt.



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July 07, 2018, 02:17:50 AM
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Haven't seen a single screenshot showing 7.5mh/s at 70% tdp.. And why do you call it a donation when you're forcing people to pay? And saying you don't release it for free because you're doing it for the community is a joke.. You put coins that are currently the most profitable and post them on this thread which instantly kills the profitability. It's like everything you say and do is fkn retarded..

I haven't seen him mention a single coin in here that has been extraordinarily profitable or I haven't already known about and was already milked out.

So do you know why public developers are considered as people helping the community even while you pay for their work? It's because without them everything seeps to private miners that you never hear about. Because you're in this thread bitching and groveling for hand outs we can assume that you aren't a big farm and because things are tight right now you are feeling the burn, that also means you would never be able to afford a private developer or even get their attention.

Lets assume SP releases his work for free, he no longer gets paid, what sort of incentive do you think he has to continue developing mods (whether or not you choose to buy them)? Why don't you give all your revenue to SP out of the goodness of your heart which you feel as though he should be doing for you. No? Okay...

I'm a big fan of listening to peoples actions and not words, especially when it comes to crypto.

Well you're a moron because A> I never asked him for a free handout and I've never used any of his miners, even the free ones. B> I've never told him to give it for free, if you had any reading comprehension I told him it would be MORE profitable for him if he just spread it out for free (no "donation") at 2% than limiting his clients to those dumb enough to pay a fee for his miner, or as he calls it, a "donation". and C> He's just a drop in the bucket of devs of miners, I've never used a single of his miners because he's never had the community's best interests at heart, he's always had his own interests at heart. Why does he charge .05btc? It's simple, because only morons like you pay that up front not understanding there's a new miner upgrade every 2 weeks and they all have more or less the same stats. Keep milking that dick little boy..

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July 07, 2018, 10:52:37 AM
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phi2 sp-mod #3

7.3 MHASH 50% tdp... (ASUS 1080ti). Wall power readings at around  130Watt.

https://image.ibb.co/icEDcJ/phi_spmod2.png


With what settings did you get such results?
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July 07, 2018, 11:29:25 AM
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Haven't seen a single screenshot showing 7.5mh/s at 70% tdp.. And why do you call it a donation when you're forcing people to pay? And saying you don't release it for free because you're doing it for the community is a joke.. You put coins that are currently the most profitable and post them on this thread which instantly kills the profitability. It's like everything you say and do is fkn retarded..

I haven't seen him mention a single coin in here that has been extraordinarily profitable or I haven't already known about and was already milked out.

So do you know why public developers are considered as people helping the community even while you pay for their work? It's because without them everything seeps to private miners that you never hear about. Because you're in this thread bitching and groveling for hand outs we can assume that you aren't a big farm and because things are tight right now you are feeling the burn, that also means you would never be able to afford a private developer or even get their attention.

Lets assume SP releases his work for free, he no longer gets paid, what sort of incentive do you think he has to continue developing mods (whether or not you choose to buy them)? Why don't you give all your revenue to SP out of the goodness of your heart which you feel as though he should be doing for you. No? Okay...

I'm a big fan of listening to peoples actions and not words, especially when it comes to crypto.

Well you're a moron because A> I never asked him for a free handout and I've never used any of his miners, even the free ones. B> I've never told him to give it for free, if you had any reading comprehension I told him it would be MORE profitable for him if he just spread it out for free (no "donation") at 2% than limiting his clients to those dumb enough to pay a fee for his miner, or as he calls it, a "donation". and C> He's just a drop in the bucket of devs of miners, I've never used a single of his miners because he's never had the community's best interests at heart, he's always had his own interests at heart. Why does he charge .05btc? It's simple, because only morons like you pay that up front not understanding there's a new miner upgrade every 2 weeks and they all have more or less the same stats. Keep milking that dick little boy..

As I mentioned, I don't listen to words, I listen to actions. Your actions here have been manipulative in an attempt to guilt him into giving his miner away for free. You're trying to make him feel bad for charging money.

Already mentioned before that post that his miner has been tore apart before and he doesn't have adequate security in place to stop that (guess your reading comprehension is worse then mine).

Not sure why it matters if it's called a fee or a donation? Still doesn't change that it's required. Oh, wait, you're trying to make him feel bad for trying to coerce people into giving him a 'donation'. ~_~

Yeah, if you've been around here awhile you know the new influx of available miners is extremely new. Up until maybe 6 months ago, basically the start of the mining boom in '18 which killed profits for everyone brought a lot of new blood along. Before then, there were only a handful of public developers making miners, SP being one of them. Given that you're a 'i r ROI in 40 days' fuckboi from January, I guess I'll give you a pass on that one because the pasture looks quite fertile right now, at least as far as miners go. Too bad the mining revenue isn't there to match, which goes back to my first post regarding you feeling the burn.

Not sure why as a miner you would care whether or not SP has the best communities 'interest at heart' what does that even mean when you're obviously here after profit? Also we went over the whole 'remuneration for services rendered' bit. If he wants to charge a flat fee and a %, he can do that, you don't need to buy it. It's still good he's even offering it in the first place.

I never said I bought his phi miner, I have bought other more lucrative miners in the past though. I mentioned once again that phi2 hasn't been earning well (guess we go back to that reader comprehension bit you were sure to mention).

You know a ellipsis has three dots right and if you don't do that there is really no point in using that in the first place?

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July 07, 2018, 03:42:18 PM
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Palit jetstrim 1080ti 150+ pl80 tdp 65

CCminer SPmod
https://ibb.co/nCSiwo

CryptoDredge_0.6.0
https://ibb.co/jtye2T

Gigabyte aorus 1080 ti 90+ pl80 tdp 65

CCminer SPmod
https://ibb.co/iLGcp8

CryptoDredge_0.6.0
https://ibb.co/gHGz2T

Very disappointed with the purchase ...
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July 07, 2018, 03:58:01 PM
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Palit jetstrim 1080ti 150+ pl80 tdp 65

CCminer SPmod
https://ibb.co/nCSiwo

CryptoDredge_0.6.0
https://ibb.co/jtye2T

Gigabyte aorus 1080 ti 90+ pl80 tdp 65

CCminer SPmod
https://ibb.co/iLGcp8

CryptoDredge_0.6.0
https://ibb.co/gHGz2T

Very disappointed with the purchase ...

Good job! Thanx.
Could you, please, make it with ccminer 2.3 too?

yobit.net is banned from signatures
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July 07, 2018, 04:16:43 PM
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Palit jetstrim 1080ti 150+ pl80 tdp 65

CCminer SPmod
https://ibb.co/nCSiwo

CryptoDredge_0.6.0
https://ibb.co/jtye2T

Gigabyte aorus 1080 ti 90+ pl80 tdp 65

CCminer SPmod
https://ibb.co/iLGcp8

CryptoDredge_0.6.0
https://ibb.co/gHGz2T

Very disappointed with the purchase ...

Good job! Thanx.
Could you, please, make it with ccminer 2.3 too?


Gigabyte aorus 1080 ti 90+ pl80 tdp 65
ccminer 2.3
https://ibb.co/k7B5sT

Palit jetstrim 1080ti 150+ pl80 tdp 65
ccminer 2.3
https://ibb.co/kTUKK8

The fastest miner CryptoDredge_0.6.0 it's free

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July 07, 2018, 05:35:19 PM
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Palit jetstrim 1080ti 150+ pl80 tdp 65

CCminer SPmod
https://ibb.co/nCSiwo

CryptoDredge_0.6.0
https://ibb.co/jtye2T

Gigabyte aorus 1080 ti 90+ pl80 tdp 65

CCminer SPmod
https://ibb.co/iLGcp8

CryptoDredge_0.6.0
https://ibb.co/gHGz2T

Very disappointed with the purchase ...

Good job! Thanx.
Could you, please, make it with ccminer 2.3 too?


Gigabyte aorus 1080 ti 90+ pl80 tdp 65
ccminer 2.3
https://ibb.co/k7B5sT

Palit jetstrim 1080ti 150+ pl80 tdp 65
ccminer 2.3
https://ibb.co/kTUKK8

The fastest miner CryptoDredge_0.6.0 it's free


But still mining lux atm is not profitable, Thanks for sharing tho
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July 07, 2018, 07:28:39 PM
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Haven't seen a single screenshot showing 7.5mh/s at 70% tdp.. And why do you call it a donation when you're forcing people to pay? And saying you don't release it for free because you're doing it for the community is a joke.. You put coins that are currently the most profitable and post them on this thread which instantly kills the profitability. It's like everything you say and do is fkn retarded..

I haven't seen him mention a single coin in here that has been extraordinarily profitable or I haven't already known about and was already milked out.

So do you know why public developers are considered as people helping the community even while you pay for their work? It's because without them everything seeps to private miners that you never hear about. Because you're in this thread bitching and groveling for hand outs we can assume that you aren't a big farm and because things are tight right now you are feeling the burn, that also means you would never be able to afford a private developer or even get their attention.

Lets assume SP releases his work for free, he no longer gets paid, what sort of incentive do you think he has to continue developing mods (whether or not you choose to buy them)? Why don't you give all your revenue to SP out of the goodness of your heart which you feel as though he should be doing for you. No? Okay...

I'm a big fan of listening to peoples actions and not words, especially when it comes to crypto.

Well you're a moron because A> I never asked him for a free handout and I've never used any of his miners, even the free ones. B> I've never told him to give it for free, if you had any reading comprehension I told him it would be MORE profitable for him if he just spread it out for free (no "donation") at 2% than limiting his clients to those dumb enough to pay a fee for his miner, or as he calls it, a "donation". and C> He's just a drop in the bucket of devs of miners, I've never used a single of his miners because he's never had the community's best interests at heart, he's always had his own interests at heart. Why does he charge .05btc? It's simple, because only morons like you pay that up front not understanding there's a new miner upgrade every 2 weeks and they all have more or less the same stats. Keep milking that dick little boy..

As I mentioned, I don't listen to words, I listen to actions. Your actions here have been manipulative in an attempt to guilt him into giving his miner away for free. You're trying to make him feel bad for charging money.


You're too ignorant to understand basic marketing, this is why kiddies stay on message forums while typing furiously from their mom's basement. Charging double the fee that other devs charge isn't free. Making excuses that he doesn't want to put his miner out on the market because others can break into it and copy it is fucken retarded too because if anyone wanted to do it they'd just pay the fee, get the miner, and do exactly what you said he's scared of. It's like you're his other sock account, because the stupid shit he says is on par with the stupid shit you say.

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July 08, 2018, 07:17:58 AM
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Haven't seen a single screenshot showing 7.5mh/s at 70% tdp.. And why do you call it a donation when you're forcing people to pay? And saying you don't release it for free because you're doing it for the community is a joke.. You put coins that are currently the most profitable and post them on this thread which instantly kills the profitability. It's like everything you say and do is fkn retarded..

I haven't seen him mention a single coin in here that has been extraordinarily profitable or I haven't already known about and was already milked out.

So do you know why public developers are considered as people helping the community even while you pay for their work? It's because without them everything seeps to private miners that you never hear about. Because you're in this thread bitching and groveling for hand outs we can assume that you aren't a big farm and because things are tight right now you are feeling the burn, that also means you would never be able to afford a private developer or even get their attention.

Lets assume SP releases his work for free, he no longer gets paid, what sort of incentive do you think he has to continue developing mods (whether or not you choose to buy them)? Why don't you give all your revenue to SP out of the goodness of your heart which you feel as though he should be doing for you. No? Okay...

I'm a big fan of listening to peoples actions and not words, especially when it comes to crypto.

Well you're a moron because A> I never asked him for a free handout and I've never used any of his miners, even the free ones. B> I've never told him to give it for free, if you had any reading comprehension I told him it would be MORE profitable for him if he just spread it out for free (no "donation") at 2% than limiting his clients to those dumb enough to pay a fee for his miner, or as he calls it, a "donation". and C> He's just a drop in the bucket of devs of miners, I've never used a single of his miners because he's never had the community's best interests at heart, he's always had his own interests at heart. Why does he charge .05btc? It's simple, because only morons like you pay that up front not understanding there's a new miner upgrade every 2 weeks and they all have more or less the same stats. Keep milking that dick little boy..

As I mentioned, I don't listen to words, I listen to actions. Your actions here have been manipulative in an attempt to guilt him into giving his miner away for free. You're trying to make him feel bad for charging money.


You're too ignorant to understand basic marketing, this is why kiddies stay on message forums while typing furiously from their mom's basement. Charging double the fee that other devs charge isn't free. Making excuses that he doesn't want to put his miner out on the market because others can break into it and copy it is fucken retarded too because if anyone wanted to do it they'd just pay the fee, get the miner, and do exactly what you said he's scared of. It's like you're his other sock account, because the stupid shit he says is on par with the stupid shit you say.

Of course I understand distribution models, I'm one of the people who preached for a percent based fee IN THIS VERY thread over the years and said it was possible before even Claymore did it, then used Claymores work as an example of perpetuating it. Not all miners are created equal. And in this case SP doesn't have strong enough security to protect his IP, so of course he's not going to make it just a percent fee based miner. Why would he when it just gets ripped out and distributed for free? That is 'free'.

On the other hand, YOU don't understand basic 'marketing' (which this isn't marketing at all). Paying the up front fee IS a deterrent to doing just that. Not only does SP get paid, but if someone distributes the work, then they lose money. They lose the advantage the miner offers. Basically taking a shotgun to their two feet. What has happened in the past is people crowd source a fund to buy his miners, then distribute it to each other. Any time they distribute it to more people, they lose the advantage the miner offers.

And it has already happened in the past. As I've mentioned, you're a new kid, you haven't been through the hoops, but your flamboyant ignorance only gets a pass for so long. It's cute at first because I get to tell you how it is, but then it becomes tiresome as you don't learn and just drone on looking for handouts while operating under the false pretense of 'community'. People like you have been through here and every other miners thread since time began on these forums.

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